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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 17 2012 01:08 GMT
#7141
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 17 2012 01:10 GMT
#7142
On September 17 2012 10:06 Phemtos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 09:45 Darg wrote:
Overall:

Mana: dissapointed me a lot (got rly hard bracket but anywaylost to Bly!?!?)
Thorzian: Like Nerchio said, he is like a shadow of himself
Babyknight: Rly good protoss but still just not rly skilled vs. hard opponents.( he would lost vs. pr0's like every single game)
Lowely" Going from one random thing to another...
Vortix: 3rd best zerg in the Europe. just afer Stephano and Nerchio(you alredy know that)
Lucifron: One of the Best (beast) terran in game right now. (he is like Kas but with way way more better moves ingame.)
Bly: Random zerg with good skills. ( He is loosing like 70% percent games when opponent make hard presure on him)

Anyway Lucifron makes me happy a lot. He is overpowered. He is prolly one who can make a dream to be true.Beat Teaja!(except Stephano, MaNa, MkP,as a race)

Did nerchio really say that about Thorzain? I really feel sad about thorzain, I'm not quite sure what happened since his last DH win but he has been struggling alot lately. I always considered him one of the best terran in the world for how refined his personal builds were.

LOL it wasn't even 2 months ago where he won WCS Sweden. He still is one of the best. One bad tournament doesn't mean a player sucks. Let's not forget he got pretty sick only a few weeks back.
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xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
September 17 2012 01:10 GMT
#7143
Are people REALLY debating about arrogance over a video game??
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 01:12:08
September 17 2012 01:11 GMT
#7144
Nice guys don't finish last in esports, people who have zero personality or that are too shy to share their personality with the world finish last.

anytime you're in front of the public you have to show something, generally ANYTHING and you'll be ok. 95% of pro-gamers korean or not are timid and sheepish in the spotlight.

<3 Stephano.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 17 2012 01:12 GMT
#7145
On September 17 2012 10:10 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 10:06 Phemtos wrote:
On September 17 2012 09:45 Darg wrote:
Overall:

Mana: dissapointed me a lot (got rly hard bracket but anywaylost to Bly!?!?)
Thorzian: Like Nerchio said, he is like a shadow of himself
Babyknight: Rly good protoss but still just not rly skilled vs. hard opponents.( he would lost vs. pr0's like every single game)
Lowely" Going from one random thing to another...
Vortix: 3rd best zerg in the Europe. just afer Stephano and Nerchio(you alredy know that)
Lucifron: One of the Best (beast) terran in game right now. (he is like Kas but with way way more better moves ingame.)
Bly: Random zerg with good skills. ( He is loosing like 70% percent games when opponent make hard presure on him)

Anyway Lucifron makes me happy a lot. He is overpowered. He is prolly one who can make a dream to be true.Beat Teaja!(except Stephano, MaNa, MkP,as a race)

Did nerchio really say that about Thorzain? I really feel sad about thorzain, I'm not quite sure what happened since his last DH win but he has been struggling alot lately. I always considered him one of the best terran in the world for how refined his personal builds were.

LOL it wasn't even 2 months ago where he won WCS Sweden. He still is one of the best. One bad tournament doesn't mean a player sucks. Let's not forget he got pretty sick only a few weeks back.

haha, a player is only good as the last map they played ;D

2 months is actually a fair amount of time, considering sc2 moves soo damn fast. i hope TZ gets better soon
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v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
September 17 2012 01:14 GMT
#7146
@Raidern All right.
After qualifying to the grand finals, beating Vortix 2/0 he knew he was going to play against a player he had already beaten (Lucifron, Lowely, or Vortix) and could drop a bo3 in his way to taking the championship (dues to extented series).
Someone asked him
"how did he feel about winning the tournament and he replied"
"I already won"
"Anything else to say ?"
"No 'cause I already won".

Then just before playing against Vortix there was an interview going with the 2 guys
"How do you feal about this match"
"I'm gonna win like I said, probably easily"

After the games (he lost the first bo3 but remained with a record of 5/2 against Vortix this day) he hexplains that it was not as easy as he thought but that he was sure to win anyway.
He also told that he was "cocky" because that's what people wanted him to be.
A friend is someone you know well and still love.
Boomsta
Profile Joined September 2012
France3 Posts
September 17 2012 01:17 GMT
#7147
Stephano you are the one who IS ! France For The Win !
For The Light
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 01:20:33
September 17 2012 01:18 GMT
#7148
Gratz Stephano!!

Did anyone see how big the stream numbers hit during the finals, it was around 60k when I left and that was before Stepanho games.

I wish Stephano was playing in Valencia next week with Taeja attending. Will be fun to see how some of the guys who did well here do there with some good Koreans added in.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#7149
apparently they hit 100k
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
September 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#7150
People seem to be misguided that if a player isn't arrogant, they will be boring and lifeless. Not one person has realised that surely there must be a compromise - a middleman? Lo and behold, it actually is possible to be popular without being a prick! For further proof, go to the OP and check who do you want to win poll. Hint: he is one of the most modest and genuine players in the RTS scene.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 17 2012 01:22 GMT
#7151
On September 17 2012 10:19 opterown wrote:
apparently they hit 100k


Wow pretty amazing numbers this far into WOL!
muzzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States640 Posts
September 17 2012 01:28 GMT
#7152
On September 17 2012 10:19 Incomplet wrote:
People seem to be misguided that if a player isn't arrogant, they will be boring and lifeless. Not one person has realised that surely there must be a compromise - a middleman? Lo and behold, it actually is possible to be popular without being a prick! For further proof, go to the OP and check who do you want to win poll. Hint: he is one of the most modest and genuine players in the RTS scene.

Grubby also has a great personality.

You seem to not understand what people are looking for in players. We want character. We want personality.

Stephano takes the cocky, sure of himself foreigner persona. MC is the Boss Toss showman, threatening all of his opponents. But, Grubby is also a character, and for the reasons you mention. He is very well spoken, outgoing, promotes himself well and has a legendary background. We want to see the King of the Orcs rise again.

Now lets compare to someone like, say, Oz. Extremely skilled guy. But, he is forgettable. I can't think of anything Oz has really done. I know he's pretty good PvP.

Or, say Vortix who we just watched. We all saw he had a strong play style, but he didn't really give us any insight into who he is as a person. Now, to be fair, he's new to the spotlight and we have to give him a chance to develop.
But, just winning tournaments is not enough to become a popular, fan-favorite player.
muzzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States640 Posts
September 17 2012 01:29 GMT
#7153
On September 17 2012 10:22 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 10:19 opterown wrote:
apparently they hit 100k


Wow pretty amazing numbers this far into WOL!

Ya, I was happy to see that we are still seeing as big, if not bigger, numbers than we were a year ago. SC2 as an eSport is really looking strong.

We all know the player base has dropped off a lot, and that's to be expected, but it's great to see the viewerbase is still very large.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 17 2012 01:43 GMT
#7154
On September 17 2012 10:19 Incomplet wrote:
People seem to be misguided that if a player isn't arrogant, they will be boring and lifeless. Not one person has realised that surely there must be a compromise - a middleman? Lo and behold, it actually is possible to be popular without being a prick! For further proof, go to the OP and check who do you want to win poll. Hint: he is one of the most modest and genuine players in the RTS scene.

so because Stephano is confident he is a prick? come on now. He's a great showman. He's why the stream hit 100k viewers. The scene needs all types of characters. And a cocky dude who just dominates role is filled by Stephano
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Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 01:54:46
September 17 2012 01:51 GMT
#7155
On September 17 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 10:19 Incomplet wrote:
People seem to be misguided that if a player isn't arrogant, they will be boring and lifeless. Not one person has realised that surely there must be a compromise - a middleman? Lo and behold, it actually is possible to be popular without being a prick! For further proof, go to the OP and check who do you want to win poll. Hint: he is one of the most modest and genuine players in the RTS scene.

so because Stephano is confident he is a prick? come on now. He's a great showman. He's why the stream hit 100k viewers. The scene needs all types of characters. And a cocky dude who just dominates role is filled by Stephano


First you call him confident, then you call him cocky? And to answer your question, yes cocky people are pricks this goes for anyone, not just Stephano. Just imagine you're at an Internet cafe playing sc2, then some random guy comes up to you and starts bragging about how he will own you. Then after playing a best of 5, you win the first 2 games but lose overall. He then tells you that you only won the first 2 games because he was taking it easy on you for shits and giggles. I guarantee that most people would want to kick the shit out of him right there on the spot.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 01:57:29
September 17 2012 01:53 GMT
#7156
On September 17 2012 08:29 lightrise wrote:
Stephano played super well but so did the brothers. Super excited for Lucifron to make a comeback into competitive play.


I'm also excited to see all three of these guys at Shanghai. I wonder if Lucifron will make a Day9 daily after that mech vs Z, except I think Bomber may have been in a similar one recently.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 17 2012 02:00 GMT
#7157
Hey can Stephano actually speaks French?

Just wondering because I want to converse with him in his mother tongue in case of future encounter.
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DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
September 17 2012 02:00 GMT
#7158
Congrats Stephano. Please accept your GSL seed and win Code S.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 17 2012 02:00 GMT
#7159
On September 17 2012 10:51 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:
On September 17 2012 10:19 Incomplet wrote:
People seem to be misguided that if a player isn't arrogant, they will be boring and lifeless. Not one person has realised that surely there must be a compromise - a middleman? Lo and behold, it actually is possible to be popular without being a prick! For further proof, go to the OP and check who do you want to win poll. Hint: he is one of the most modest and genuine players in the RTS scene.

so because Stephano is confident he is a prick? come on now. He's a great showman. He's why the stream hit 100k viewers. The scene needs all types of characters. And a cocky dude who just dominates role is filled by Stephano


First you call him confident, then you call him cocky? And to answer your question, yes cocky people are pricks this goes for anyone, not just Stephano. Just imagine you're at an Internet cafe playing sc2, then some random guy comes up to you and starts bragging about how he will own you. Then after playing a best of 5, you win the first 2 games but lose overall. He then tells you that you only won the first 2 games because he was taking it easy on you for shits and giggles. I guarantee that most people would want to kick the shit out of him right there on the spot.

Yes, Stephano is confident and cocky. they go hand in hand. And Stephano isn't just some random guy in an internet cafe. He's the best player outside of Korea, one of the best in the whole world and has won more money this year than any other dude in the world. Hardly the same thing. And Stephano ended up going 5-2 against Vortix this weekend.

If someone takes what Stephano says seriously, then they need to improve as a competitor.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
September 17 2012 02:01 GMT
#7160
On September 17 2012 10:51 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:
On September 17 2012 10:19 Incomplet wrote:
People seem to be misguided that if a player isn't arrogant, they will be boring and lifeless. Not one person has realised that surely there must be a compromise - a middleman? Lo and behold, it actually is possible to be popular without being a prick! For further proof, go to the OP and check who do you want to win poll. Hint: he is one of the most modest and genuine players in the RTS scene.

so because Stephano is confident he is a prick? come on now. He's a great showman. He's why the stream hit 100k viewers. The scene needs all types of characters. And a cocky dude who just dominates role is filled by Stephano


First you call him confident, then you call him cocky? And to answer your question, yes cocky people are pricks this goes for anyone, not just Stephano. Just imagine you're at an Internet cafe playing sc2, then some random guy comes up to you and starts bragging about how he will own you. Then after playing a best of 5, you win the first 2 games but lose overall. He then tells you that you only won the first 2 games because he was taking it easy on you for shits and giggles. I guarantee that most people would want to kick the shit out of him right there on the spot.

It is amazing how much it can explain about a person when you see their general feelings about certain issues. No, most people on this planet would not want to kick the shit out of a person right there on the spot. You would. Explains quite a bit about your rantings in this thread...
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