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Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
September 16 2012 22:33 GMT
#7001
On September 17 2012 07:29 RoyAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:11 Fusilero wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:10 RoyAlex wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:07 stephenrau wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote:
Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it.
The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.

All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).

Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.

Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.



Lol stupid haters who can't admit his talent:

Kevin van der Kooi ‏@RotterdaM08
Freaking Stephano. :D He was here for 6 days.. didn't play a single game, flies for 20 hours.. shows up and wins. Just makes you mad. :D GG!


He was hanging out with NASL staff in California filming content and playing with his playmate Lauren just last weekend from Sat to Wed.



Hehe, you almost have to feel bad for other player at the events like Grubby, Lucifron, Thorzain etc. :D
Also players like Incontrol & Idra etc. who get so much shit for being "bad" at the game, yet they practices more than Stephano and he just rapes them ez.

Guess i can see why some ppl don't want him to act like that, especially when he so talented and don't practice.
When other people practices so much more and have a passion for the game and Esports, like Grubby etc..

So I can see why some people percive him as an arrogant ass.

I can virtually guarantee the stephano doesn't practice is an exaggerated myth that gets spread because of stephano's image.


Well I don't think people thinks he never practices, atleast thats not what I think. Surely he plays the game & practices! But from what a lot of people say, like Bling, Rotterdam and Stephano himself. It does not looks like he practices anywere near 8 hours or anything like that. Yet beats everyone easy, even Koreans like MC, HerO, Taeja and 99% of every foreigners. Most people he beats probably trains a lot more than Stephano.

Stephano kinda looks like an foreigner Stork or something.


What the fuck ? Stephano beats Taeja, MC and Hero easy ? Really ?
I hope WCS world will open fanboys eyes. Stephano is good, maybe the best foreign player. But he's just another foreigner for Top Korean players.
stephenrau
Profile Joined November 2011
468 Posts
September 16 2012 22:34 GMT
#7002
On September 17 2012 07:29 RoyAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:11 Fusilero wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:10 RoyAlex wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:07 stephenrau wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote:
Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it.
The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.

All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).

Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.

Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.



Lol stupid haters who can't admit his talent:

Kevin van der Kooi ‏@RotterdaM08
Freaking Stephano. :D He was here for 6 days.. didn't play a single game, flies for 20 hours.. shows up and wins. Just makes you mad. :D GG!
https://twitter.com/RotterdaM08/status/247453316680937472

He was hanging out with NASL staff in California filming content and playing with his playmate Lauren just last weekend from Sat to Wed.



Hehe, you almost have to feel bad for other player at the events like Grubby, Lucifron, Thorzain etc. :D
Also players like Incontrol & Idra etc. who get so much shit for being "bad" at the game, yet they practices more than Stephano and he just rapes them ez.

Guess i can see why some ppl don't want him to act like that, especially when he so talented and don't practice.
When other people practices so much more and have a passion for the game and Esports, like Grubby etc..

So I can see why some people percive him as an arrogant ass.

I can virtually guarantee the stephano doesn't practice is an exaggerated myth that gets spread because of stephano's image.


Well I don't think people thinks he never practices, atleast thats not what I think. Surely he plays the game & practices! But from what a lot of people say, like Bling, Rotterdam and Stephano himself. It does not looks like he practices anywere near 8 hours or anything like that. Yet beats everyone easy, even Koreans like MC, HerO, Taeja and 99% of every foreigners. Most people he beats probably trains a lot more than Stephano.

Stephano kinda looks like an foreigner Stork or something.


Yes I edited my initial post. Sure Stephano loves to BS and exaggerate but he said flat out he couldn't stream and practice because he moved flats to Paris. This was right before NASL 3 which he won in spectacular fashion. He says he couldn't practice for 2 weeks and everyone just says he's a liar. It's not humble but it very well could be the truth.

M‡Stephano ¤ By.Sun ¤ SKT1.Rain ¤ soO
Anton K
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden277 Posts
September 16 2012 22:34 GMT
#7003
On September 17 2012 07:29 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:25 TheSwedishFan wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:17 Incomplet wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:11 TheSwedishFan wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:07 Incomplet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote:
Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it.
The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.

All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).

Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.

Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.


Humble Korean Act
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218647



Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.

In other words:
1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring?
1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?

LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.


It's you that are being racist...


Nope its the truth. Think long and hard about it. Many people call him the foreigner hope, why is that? Because he is not Korean...

So cheering for lets say Sweden in the world cup would make me a racist?
In this case i think most people will cheer for the underdog as they want to see something sensational.


Nope, that would make you patriotic. Patriotism is a step down from racism but still annoying. Unite the world, our blood is all red. This is 2012, Patriotism and Racism needs to GTFO.


Fuck you. I dont give a shit what year it is, people should be able to cheer for their country and not feeling guilty about it.

It's sad to see the discussion derailing like this, I guess you (the h8rs) are the vocal minority though for sure. This was a really great event and the best one ever in SC2 history if you ask me. Dreamhack set the bar really high for the Asian Finals and the World Finals so I am hoping they will bring their A game!


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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
September 16 2012 22:34 GMT
#7004
On September 17 2012 07:28 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:26 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I missed the last series of Stephano vs. Vortix... what's up with the cocky/ racist accusations? Did Stephano do or say something in his celebration or interview?


The only thing he Sayd When Rachel asked him:

it wasn't easy was it?
Stephano: Yes it was easy.
Rachel: "then why did you lost the first B03"
Stephano: "To give him confidence and then crush him later"

Of course it pissed off the haters

Again with that word! Never going to win on this one though

Of course that's going to annoy people, even people who are neutral/like Stephano. Being cocky and all is showmanship if you're trash-talking before your games, to do it afterwards is just a bit unedifying, to me anyway.

Don't overly mind, I like the divergence in personalities in the scene, but you're not a 'hater' for not liking that kind of behaviour


Sorry wombat

haha, anyway thanks all for a great event
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
September 16 2012 22:34 GMT
#7005
On September 17 2012 07:33 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:27 Meggiroth wrote:
You know why Stephano has such a bigger fanbase than Naniwa, despite arguably being on the same skill level?.

What are you smoking bro?

I'm tired of hearing everywhere that stephano is arguably the best foreigner.
You truly belive naniwa is on the same lvl with stephano just because he plays gsl only, practicing against the same 20 koreans and the same tactics for the whole year?

Is that on the same level with constantly placing high in EVERY international event and winning a lot of them also?
You compare a guy who gets kicked out in the first bracket of an international event with someone who earns the most money from sc2 prizes in 2012?

I like Naniwa too and all, he has his moments, but you just can't argue anymore that Stephano isn't the best foreigner atm.
Arguably in my eyes he is the best sc2 in the world and can beat any korean atm.
Judging by the names qualified from korea at the china finals, Stephano shouldn't have big threats in taking the world champion title.

...aaaaand this post marks the point where reason left this thread and gave way to Stephano dickriders...

These people are the very same ones that say "oh stephano got knocked out and now there are only Koreans with zero personality. NOT WATCHING KTHXBAI". I'm sooooooo waiting for this when the World championship comes...


But that's not true.... oh wait it happened a few weeks ago ^^,
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 16 2012 22:34 GMT
#7006
On September 17 2012 07:33 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:27 Meggiroth wrote:
You know why Stephano has such a bigger fanbase than Naniwa, despite arguably being on the same skill level?.

What are you smoking bro?

I'm tired of hearing everywhere that stephano is arguably the best foreigner.
You truly belive naniwa is on the same lvl with stephano just because he plays gsl only, practicing against the same 20 koreans and the same tactics for the whole year?

Is that on the same level with constantly placing high in EVERY international event and winning a lot of them also?
You compare a guy who gets kicked out in the first bracket of an international event with someone who earns the most money from sc2 prizes in 2012?

I like Naniwa too and all, he has his moments, but you just can't argue anymore that Stephano isn't the best foreigner atm.
Arguably in my eyes he is the best sc2 in the world and can beat any korean atm.
Judging by the names qualified from korea at the china finals, Stephano shouldn't have big threats in taking the world champion title.

...aaaaand this post marks the point where reason left this thread and gave way to Stephano dickriders...

These people are the very same ones that say "oh stephano got knocked out and now there are only Koreans with zero personality. NOT WATCHING KTHXBAI". I'm sooooooo waiting for this when the World championship comes...

Goddamnit and I was just making peace with Stephano fanboys by saying they were becoming normal people

This is why I root against Stephano and hope he exits every tournament early
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
September 16 2012 22:34 GMT
#7007
On September 17 2012 07:32 Meggiroth wrote:
Look at the koreans qualified for WCS and tell me who can beat Stephano?
(No Oz,Revival, Violet around /trollface)

atm there is only 1 korean qualified and he is favored against stephano.
muzzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States640 Posts
September 16 2012 22:34 GMT
#7008
On September 17 2012 07:27 Meggiroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
You know why Stephano has such a bigger fanbase than Naniwa, despite arguably being on the same skill level?.



What are you smoking bro?

I'm tired of hearing everywhere that stephano is arguably the best foreigner.
You truly belive naniwa is on the same lvl with stephano just because he plays gsl only, practicing against the same 20 koreans and the same tactics for the whole year?

Is that on the same level with constantly placing high in EVERY international event and winning a lot of them also?
You compare a guy who gets kicked out in the first bracket of an international event with someone who earns the most money from sc2 prizes in 2012?

I like Naniwa too and all, he has his moments, but you just can't argue anymore that Stephano isn't the best foreigner atm.
Arguably in my eyes he is the best sc2 in the world and can beat any korean atm.
Judging by the names qualified from korea at the china finals, Stephano shouldn't have big threats in taking the world champion title.





To be honest, I agree that Stephano well above Naniwa, but I was trying to point out that Nani is not nearly as popular despite also being very skilled and, coincidentally, white.
Willzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom774 Posts
September 16 2012 22:35 GMT
#7009
All you Stephano haters, you do realise that Stephano is just trolling you guys and you are falling for it?
BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
September 16 2012 22:35 GMT
#7010
On September 17 2012 07:30 muzzy wrote:
Also, when I say "The Humble Korean" , I don't see how some idiots are perceiving that as racist. I'm talking about the stereotypical way many Korean progamers quietly accept victory and defeat, without showing emotion. That has nothing to do with race. Also I should point out that "Korean" is not a race, it's a nation and a culture...

And I also think it's ridiculous that people will claim that it's somehow racist to support a foreigner/Westerner. People like underdog stories! It's more exciting when it is a David vs Goliath kind of scenario. It just so happens to be that Goliath in SC2 is Korea. If the situation were reversed, and Westerners won every event, there would be tons of people rooting for the lone Korean who was making his way through the brackets.

We saw this same crap in the DOTA2 International. The Chinese obviously were fielding all the best teams, so many were rooting for NaVi because they are charismatic and seen as an underdog of sorts. But, of course, the holier-than-thou white guys come out and claim we are racist because we don't want the Chinese team to win...


Haha, it's always the white peoples fault. -.-
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
September 16 2012 22:35 GMT
#7011
On September 17 2012 07:33 Huragius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:29 RoyAlex wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:11 Fusilero wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:10 RoyAlex wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:07 stephenrau wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote:
Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it.
The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.

All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).

Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.

Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.



Lol stupid haters who can't admit his talent:

Kevin van der Kooi ‏@RotterdaM08
Freaking Stephano. :D He was here for 6 days.. didn't play a single game, flies for 20 hours.. shows up and wins. Just makes you mad. :D GG!
https://twitter.com/RotterdaM08/status/247453316680937472

He was hanging out with NASL staff in California filming content and playing with his playmate Lauren just last weekend from Sat to Wed.



Hehe, you almost have to feel bad for other player at the events like Grubby, Lucifron, Thorzain etc. :D
Also players like Incontrol & Idra etc. who get so much shit for being "bad" at the game, yet they practices more than Stephano and he just rapes them ez.

Guess i can see why some ppl don't want him to act like that, especially when he so talented and don't practice.
When other people practices so much more and have a passion for the game and Esports, like Grubby etc..

So I can see why some people percive him as an arrogant ass.

I can virtually guarantee the stephano doesn't practice is an exaggerated myth that gets spread because of stephano's image.


Well I don't think people thinks he never practices, atleast thats not what I think. Surely he plays the game & practices! But from what a lot of people say, like Bling, Rotterdam and Stephano himself. It does not looks like he practices anywere near 8 hours or anything like that. Yet beats everyone easy, even Koreans like MC, HerO, Taeja and 99% of every foreigners. Most people he beats probably trains a lot more than Stephano.

Stephano kinda looks like an foreigner Stork or something.


What the fuck ? Stephano beats Taeja, MC and Hero easy ? Really ?
I hope WCS world will open fanboys eyes. Stephano is good, maybe the best foreign player. But he's just another foreigner for Top Korean players.


That's so not true. He's one of the best zerg there is period, after DRG and maybe curious and symbol, maybe them.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 22:36:19
September 16 2012 22:35 GMT
#7012
On September 17 2012 07:33 Huragius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:29 RoyAlex wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:11 Fusilero wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:10 RoyAlex wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:07 stephenrau wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote:
Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it.
The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.

All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).

Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.

Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.



Lol stupid haters who can't admit his talent:

Kevin van der Kooi ‏@RotterdaM08
Freaking Stephano. :D He was here for 6 days.. didn't play a single game, flies for 20 hours.. shows up and wins. Just makes you mad. :D GG!
https://twitter.com/RotterdaM08/status/247453316680937472

He was hanging out with NASL staff in California filming content and playing with his playmate Lauren just last weekend from Sat to Wed.



Hehe, you almost have to feel bad for other player at the events like Grubby, Lucifron, Thorzain etc. :D
Also players like Incontrol & Idra etc. who get so much shit for being "bad" at the game, yet they practices more than Stephano and he just rapes them ez.

Guess i can see why some ppl don't want him to act like that, especially when he so talented and don't practice.
When other people practices so much more and have a passion for the game and Esports, like Grubby etc..

So I can see why some people percive him as an arrogant ass.

I can virtually guarantee the stephano doesn't practice is an exaggerated myth that gets spread because of stephano's image.


Well I don't think people thinks he never practices, atleast thats not what I think. Surely he plays the game & practices! But from what a lot of people say, like Bling, Rotterdam and Stephano himself. It does not looks like he practices anywere near 8 hours or anything like that. Yet beats everyone easy, even Koreans like MC, HerO, Taeja and 99% of every foreigners. Most people he beats probably trains a lot more than Stephano.

Stephano kinda looks like an foreigner Stork or something.


What the fuck ? Stephano beats Taeja, MC and Hero easy ? Really ?
I hope WCS world will open fanboys eyes. Stephano is good, maybe the best foreign player. But he's just another foreigner for Top Korean players.


Haha, Get a clue

Stephano last 5months offline results

+ Show Spoiler +
Stephano vs Revival 0-2
Stephano vs Violet 0-2
Stephano vs TheSTC 2-0
Stephano vs Heart 2-1
Stephano vs Rain 2-0
Stephano vs Violet 1-2
Stephano vs Heart 2-1
Stephano vs Oz 0-2
Stephano vs Hero 2-1
Stephano vs Ryung 2-1
Stephano vs Oz 1-2
Stephano vs Revival 2-1
Stephano vs QXC 2-0
Stephano vs Alicia 4-0
Stephano vs MC 4-2
Stephano vs Hero 3-1
Stephano vs Mana 0-2
Stephano vs Nerchio 2-0
Stephano vs Keen 2-0
Stephano vs Huk 2-0
Stephano vs Morrow 2-0
Stephano vs Slivko 0-2
Stephano vs Puma 2-0
Stephano vs Daisy 2-0
Stephano vs Freizy 2-0
Stephano vs Sase 1-2
Stephano vs MKP 1-2
Stephano vs Rain 2-1
Stephano vs JYP 2-0
Stephano vs Ganzi 2-0
Stephano vs Alicia 2-0
Stephano vs Polt 2-1
Stephano vs Squirtle 3-1
Stephano vs MC 2-3
Stephano vs Parting 2-0
Stephano vs Rain 2-0
Stephano vs Violet 2-1
Stephano vs Violet 0-2
Stephano vs Symbol 0-2
Stephano vs Heart 2-1
Stephano vs MC 2-0
Stephano vs Ret 2-0
Stephano vs Ryung 2-0


You don't like numbers do you?

Btw you are aware that MC and Symbol just said stephano is a top 3 zerg in the world right?
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 22:36:48
September 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#7013
On September 17 2012 07:33 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:30 muzzy wrote:
Also, when I say "The Humble Korean" , I don't see how some idiots are perceiving that as racist. I'm talking about the stereotypical way many Korean progamers quietly accept victory and defeat, without showing emotion. That has nothing to do with race. Also I should point out that "Korean" is not a race, it's a nation and a culture...

And I also think it's ridiculous that people will claim that it's somehow racist to support a foreigner/Westerner. People like underdog stories! It's more exciting when it is a David vs Goliath kind of scenario. It just so happens to be that Goliath in SC2 is Korea. If the situation were reversed, and Westerners won every event, there would be tons of people rooting for the lone Korean who was making his way through the brackets.

We saw this same crap in the DOTA2 International. The Chinese obviously were fielding all the best teams, so many were rooting for NaVi because they are charismatic and seen as an underdog of sorts. But, of course, the holier-than-thou white guys come out and claim we are racist because we don't want the Chinese team to win...



Except when you get people who actually say that they lose interest when the last foreigner falls, and then coincidentally the viewer count drops dramatically, it makes you wonder. FYI I am white and even I am not blind sighted by this obvious patriotism/racism/anti-Korean whatever it is, its sickening.


that's not racism

that's being a fan of certain teams/players

if you want SC2 racism, look at the people that say they stop watching if a certain race is playing or is no longer playing
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KahunaNui
Profile Joined October 2010
Spain257 Posts
September 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#7014
Stephano played better and also was an ass. You don't say you won easily after dropping two games unless you want to draw attention. And attention whores, yet fun, are lame.
Q. You've been criticized for using cheesy builds in the past, but now people are saying that you've played some good games today. A. I'm glad that they think that way, but that won't stop me from using cheesy builds.(oGsHyperdub)
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#7015
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CaptObvious
Profile Joined October 2011
9 Posts
September 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#7016

I prefer Nani, but I do think Stephano is better. However that would be the bit there I'd disagree with. Stephano plays Zerg, and a really refined player he is but he's not really known for mixing it up. Nani was showing gate expands in PvZ against Donraegu, which is a massive change from his 'FFE or die' approach at MLG Providence.


Never change a running system. If you beat all the guys with your start and execution why would you change it? It's all about winning the game and I think Nani changed it up because it was not succesfull at some point or he thought his chance of winning would increase.
give.ViviD
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden235 Posts
September 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#7017
This tournament was amaaaaaaazing to attend to. Great production and interaction with the crowd, the gangnam dance-offs were hilarious! The arena also offered competitions, beta keys and meet'n'greets on the upper floor which was awesome + all the free stuff you got. All in all, best event I've attended to/seen so far. Dreamhack outdid themselves and I think it may partially be thanks to Blizzard.

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Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
September 16 2012 22:37 GMT
#7018
On September 17 2012 07:33 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:30 muzzy wrote:
Also, when I say "The Humble Korean" , I don't see how some idiots are perceiving that as racist. I'm talking about the stereotypical way many Korean progamers quietly accept victory and defeat, without showing emotion. That has nothing to do with race. Also I should point out that "Korean" is not a race, it's a nation and a culture...

And I also think it's ridiculous that people will claim that it's somehow racist to support a foreigner/Westerner. People like underdog stories! It's more exciting when it is a David vs Goliath kind of scenario. It just so happens to be that Goliath in SC2 is Korea. If the situation were reversed, and Westerners won every event, there would be tons of people rooting for the lone Korean who was making his way through the brackets.

We saw this same crap in the DOTA2 International. The Chinese obviously were fielding all the best teams, so many were rooting for NaVi because they are charismatic and seen as an underdog of sorts. But, of course, the holier-than-thou white guys come out and claim we are racist because we don't want the Chinese team to win...



Except when you get people who actually say that they lose interest when the last foreigner falls, and then coincidentally the viewer count drops dramatically, it makes you wonder. FYI I am white and even I am not blind sighted by this obvious patriotism/racism/anti-Korean whatever it is, its sickening.


And here I was thinking people were free to watch whatever they wanted. Now that's considered racist, go figure.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
September 16 2012 22:37 GMT
#7019
On September 17 2012 07:33 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:30 muzzy wrote:
Also, when I say "The Humble Korean" , I don't see how some idiots are perceiving that as racist. I'm talking about the stereotypical way many Korean progamers quietly accept victory and defeat, without showing emotion. That has nothing to do with race. Also I should point out that "Korean" is not a race, it's a nation and a culture...

And I also think it's ridiculous that people will claim that it's somehow racist to support a foreigner/Westerner. People like underdog stories! It's more exciting when it is a David vs Goliath kind of scenario. It just so happens to be that Goliath in SC2 is Korea. If the situation were reversed, and Westerners won every event, there would be tons of people rooting for the lone Korean who was making his way through the brackets.

We saw this same crap in the DOTA2 International. The Chinese obviously were fielding all the best teams, so many were rooting for NaVi because they are charismatic and seen as an underdog of sorts. But, of course, the holier-than-thou white guys come out and claim we are racist because we don't want the Chinese team to win...



Except when you get people who actually say that they lose interest when the last foreigner falls, and then coincidentally the viewer count drops dramatically, it makes you wonder. FYI I am white and even I am not blind sighted by this obvious patriotism/racism/anti-Korean whatever it is, its sickening.



I think you should distinguish a little more between racism and patriotism. Imo there's a big difference, but perhaps not to you.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 16 2012 22:38 GMT
#7020
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