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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:16 monkybone wrote: So embarrassing every time someone brings out the racist accusation on TL.. People love charismatic people independently of ethnicity. Screw it after the international I've seen so many people perfectly describe favouritism and call it racism that I just am incapable of caring about those discussions. | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
Each of them except Stephano lost his last match so not too much to be excited about. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45448 Posts
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:09 torm3ntin wrote: i`m a grubby fan and i get scared when i see ppl saying that acting like stephano is normal when you are good. Grubby DO have personality and it`s a very inteligent person and he can still be humble and honest and NOT cocky. I don't think Stephano is that cocky. He's acting like this just ( in a cocky/trollish way) to market himself. However, IMO that is cheap and I don't like it. You are using fake personality (what is already bad) which gets boring and annoying as the time passes. Maybe some NA teenagers are enjoying that, but it's nothing unique and most of the time it looks kinda silly from the side. Koreans will not allow Stephano be that cocky after winning matches, because he won't be winning much against top tier ones  | ||
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Account252508
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:12 muzzy wrote: Thank you for proving my point. Those Koreans have PERSONALITY. Everyone loves MC, DRG... Firebathero, Keen... these guys are cocky and behave exactly like Stephano! When I say "The Humble Korean" act, I'm obviously referring to the stereotypical way most Korean progamers (it's changing lately, though) just say "oh, great games. My opponent played well. I thank all my fans" and silently take their prize money. MC coming out as the undertaker is cocky as hell and everyone loved it. Has nothing to do with Stephano being white. You know why Stephano has such a bigger fanbase than Naniwa, despite arguably being on the same skill level? Personality. Naniwa is shy, quiet and doesn't show his joy, excitement and pride in winning. Why don't you GTFO of TL and realize what the people want. You are in the minority. I don't recall MC having a reputation for talking about his tournament wins only in terms of how much money he makes... It has a lot to do with Stephano being - if not white - foreign. There is a subtle undercurrent of racism that runs through the attitudes of some people, but it's nowhere near as bad as he suggested. There are plenty of people who freely admit they do not give a crap about Koreans period, and will stop watching any tournament the moment the last foreigner is eliminated. I'd say that Stephano would be popular regardless of skin colour, because his popularity derives from being the only foreigner who can regularly beat Koreans in major tournaments. The entire foreign community - especially the part that flatly refuse to watch anything involving Koreans - has someone to rally around. It's silly to act like his personality is the primary reason for his popularity. It isn't. His success is why he's popular, and a lot of people - even his fans - have expressed reservations about his personality. Don't mind myself. He's honest, and I prefer honesty in a man. If the money's all he cares about, power to him. | ||
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TheRidd
713 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed the last series of Stephano vs. Vortix... what's up with the cocky/ racist accusations? Did Stephano do or say something in his celebration or interview? When asked what did the win mean to him he answered money in the bank. Typical Sthephano answer but you know ... people overreacting over simple shit ... | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:21 iamthedave wrote: I don't recall MC having a reputation for talking about his tournament wins only in terms of how much money he makes... It has a lot to do with Stephano being - if not white - foreign. There is a subtle undercurrent of racism that runs through the attitudes of some people, but it's nowhere near as bad as he suggested. There are plenty of people who freely admit they do not give a crap about Koreans period, and will stop watching any tournament the moment the last foreigner is eliminated. I'd say that Stephano would be popular regardless of skin colour, because his popularity derives from being the only foreigner who can regularly beat Koreans in major tournaments. The entire foreign community - especially the part that flatly refuse to watch anything involving Koreans - has someone to rally around. It's silly to act like his personality is the primary reason for his popularity. It isn't. His success is why he's popular, and a lot of people - even his fans - have expressed reservations about his personality. Don't mind myself. He's honest, and I prefer honesty in a man. If the money's all he cares about, power to him. Well MC himself is properly even more cocky. How many times haven't you seen MC with the thumb down towards the other player? I never seen Stephano do that. People are hypocrites. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed the last series of Stephano vs. Vortix... what's up with the cocky/ racist accusations? Did Stephano do or say something in his celebration or interview? No, nothing really happened, people in the thread got bored once the tournament was over and wanted to argue about something, and the cocky/racist concept hadn't been argued for a while. I'm disappointed though, dreamhack got over 100k viewers so I really thought they were gonna argue about SCII against LOL, guess not. | ||
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Swiv
Germany3674 Posts
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ArcadeR
Germany199 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:09 torm3ntin wrote: i`m a grubby fan and i get scared when i see ppl saying that acting like stephano is normal when you are good. Grubby DO have personality and it`s a very inteligent person and he can still be humble and honest and NOT cocky. I'm a fan of Esports and for gods sake pls dont try to force every player to be the same guy... its like every other fucking sport in the World. The Scene needs different characters and you cant like everyone..its ok to do so..but stop saying Esports will turn into shit cause there are players you dont like (funny fact: you only know their stage-character, maybe grubby is a completly different person?). How boring would it be when every player would act like the kind-next-door guy? Omg pls... There will allways be guys that "no one likes" but they have thousands and thousands of fans, talent, win tourneys and be themselves (or not if they choose to in front of the crowd..). And there will allways be fans that complain about every single shit they do or do not. But pleeeeeeeeeease dont write like they are damaging their scene, they are one of the main reasons that most of the complaining guys have something to talk about... (and that this sport is growing so fast.....) Some of the posts look like the authors didnt even watch a single sport event in their whole life... | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:07 Incomplet wrote: Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white Are you blind? | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
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Account252508
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kju
6143 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed the last series of Stephano vs. Vortix... what's up with the cocky/ racist accusations? Did Stephano do or say something in his celebration or interview? Stephano said that he gave Vortix the win in the first bo3 to make it more exciting and make him think he has a shot at winning | ||
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TheSwedishFan
Sweden608 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:17 Incomplet wrote: Nope its the truth. Think long and hard about it. Many people call him the foreigner hope, why is that? Because he is not Korean... So cheering for lets say Sweden in the world cup would make me a racist? In this case i think most people will cheer for the underdog as they want to see something sensational. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed the last series of Stephano vs. Vortix... what's up with the cocky/ racist accusations? Did Stephano do or say something in his celebration or interview? The only thing he said When Rachel asked him: it wasn't easy was it? Stephano: Yes it was easy. Rachel: "then why did you lose the first B03" Stephano: "To give him confidence and then crush him later" Of course it pissed off the haters | ||
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