On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.
In other words: 1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring? 1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?
LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.
Thank you for proving my point.
Those Koreans have PERSONALITY. Everyone loves MC, DRG... Firebathero, Keen... these guys are cocky and behave exactly like Stephano!
When I say "The Humble Korean" act, I'm obviously referring to the stereotypical way most Korean progamers (it's changing lately, though) just say "oh, great games. My opponent played well. I thank all my fans" and silently take their prize money.
MC coming out as the undertaker is cocky as hell and everyone loved it.
Has nothing to do with Stephano being white. You know why Stephano has such a bigger fanbase than Naniwa, despite arguably being on the same skill level? Personality. Naniwa is shy, quiet and doesn't show his joy, excitement and pride in winning.
Why don't you GTFO of TL and realize what the people want. You are in the minority.
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Lol stupid haters who can't admit his talent:
Kevin van der Kooi @RotterdaM08 Freaking Stephano. :D He was here for 6 days.. didn't play a single game, flies for 20 hours.. shows up and wins. Just makes you mad. :D GG!
He was hanging out with NASL staff in California filming content and playing with his playmate Lauren just last weekend from Sat to Wed.
Hehe, you almost have to feel bad for other player at the events like Grubby, Lucifron, Thorzain etc. :D Also players like Incontrol & Idra etc. who get so much shit for being "bad" at the game, yet they practices more than Stephano and he just rapes them ez.
Guess i can see why some ppl don't want him to act like that, especially when he so talented and don't practice. When other people practices so much more and have a passion for the game and Esports, like Grubby etc..
So I can see why some people percive him as an arrogant ass.
I can virtually guarantee the stephano doesn't practice is an exaggerated myth that gets spread because of stephano's image.
He certainly downplays a lot, but he is low maintenance compared to the vast majority of players.
On September 17 2012 07:08 simmeh wrote: something about dreamhack that just makes it a special event. i think it comes from the top guy robert and trickles down into the staff and crew. He just seems to be so much fun, always looking to put on the best show possible for the fans. that's just the impression i get from him. i'll support and watch any dreamhack event.
I think thats true what you are saying. From what ive seen from the MLG boss (cant remember, but a italian name?) he seems doesnt seem to be much fun, looks like he is suffering and mlg is something he "has" to do. Keep in mind i havent seen him much and dont know him at all. Just a first impression.
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Lol stupid haters who can't admit his talent:
Kevin van der Kooi @RotterdaM08 Freaking Stephano. :D He was here for 6 days.. didn't play a single game, flies for 20 hours.. shows up and wins. Just makes you mad. :D GG! https://twitter.com/RotterdaM08/status/247453316680937472
He was hanging out with NASL staff in California filming content and playing with his playmate Lauren just last weekend from Sat to Wed.
Hehe, you almost have to feel bad for other player at the events like Grubby, Lucifron, Thorzain etc. :D Also players like Incontrol & Idra etc. who get so much shit for being "bad" at the game, yet they practices more than Stephano and he just rapes them ez.
Guess i can see why some ppl don't want him to act like that, especially when he so talented and don't practice. When other people practices so much more and have a passion for the game and Esports, like Grubby etc..
So I can see why some people percive him as an arrogant ass.
I can virtually guarantee the stephano doesn't practice is an exaggerated myth that gets spread because of stephano's image.
He certainly downplays a lot, but he is low maintenance compared to the vast majority of players.
A rare talent indeed.
3-4 hours a day when he's on downtime, 8 hours+ when he's properly practicing. From the man himself!
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Lol stupid haters who can't admit his talent:
Kevin van der Kooi @RotterdaM08 Freaking Stephano. :D He was here for 6 days.. didn't play a single game, flies for 20 hours.. shows up and wins. Just makes you mad. :D GG! https://twitter.com/RotterdaM08/status/247453316680937472
He was hanging out with NASL staff in California filming content and playing with his playmate Lauren just last weekend from Sat to Wed.
Hehe, you almost have to feel bad for other player at the events like Grubby, Lucifron, Thorzain etc. :D Also players like Incontrol & Idra etc. who get so much shit for being "bad" at the game, yet they practices more than Stephano and he just rapes them ez.
Guess i can see why some ppl don't want him to act like that, especially when he so talented and don't practice. When other people practices so much more and have a passion for the game and Esports, like Grubby etc..
So I can see why some people percive him as an arrogant ass.
I can virtually guarantee the stephano doesn't practice is an exaggerated myth that gets spread because of stephano's image.
He certainly downplays a lot, but he is low maintenance compared to the vast majority of players.
A rare talent indeed.
He probably doesn't work as hard as some others but people seem to have gotten this idea that stephano can turn up drunk without practice and still place top 4 he definitely works hard for it. Or maybe I'm wrong and underestimate how talented a person can be.
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.
In other words: 1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring? 1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?
LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.
Thank you for proving my point.
Those Koreans have PERSONALITY. Everyone loves MC, DRG... Firebathero, Keen... these guys are cocky and behave exactly like Stephano!
When I say "The Humble Korean" act, I'm obviously referring to the stereotypical way most Korean progamers (it's changing lately, though) just say "oh, great games. My opponent played well. I thank all my fans" and silently take their prize money.
MC coming out as the undertaker is cocky as hell and everyone loved it.
Has nothing to do with Stephano being white. You know why Stephano has such a bigger fanbase than Naniwa, despite arguably being on the same skill level? Personality. Naniwa is shy, quiet and doesn't show his joy, excitement and pride in winning.
Why don't you GTFO of TL and realize what the people want. You are in the minority.
TBH the atmosphere at this tournament right now also lended itself quite nicely to a NOT-shy ending
I have seen other tournaments with less people, less pumped up crew and audience which ofcourse is gonna bring out less impressive reactions from the players.
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.
In other words: 1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring? 1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?
LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.
Thank you for proving my point.
Those Koreans have PERSONALITY. Everyone loves MC, DRG... Firebathero, Keen... these guys are cocky and behave exactly like Stephano!
When I say "The Humble Korean" act, I'm obviously referring to the stereotypical way most Korean progamers (it's changing lately, though) just say "oh, great games. My opponent played well. I thank all my fans" and silently take their prize money.
MC coming out as the undertaker is cocky as hell and everyone loved it.
Has nothing to do with Stephano being white. You know why Stephano has such a bigger fanbase than Naniwa, despite arguably being on the same skill level? Personality. Naniwa is shy, quiet and doesn't show his joy, excitement and pride in winning.
Why don't you GTFO of TL and realize what the people want. You are in the minority.
I want firebathero to start winning major SCII games so we can see his insane ceremonies lol.
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.
In other words: 1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring? 1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?
LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.
Thank you for proving my point.
Those Koreans have PERSONALITY. Everyone loves MC, DRG... Firebathero, Keen... these guys are cocky and behave exactly like Stephano!
When I say "The Humble Korean" act, I'm obviously referring to the stereotypical way most Korean progamers (it's changing lately, though) just say "oh, great games. My opponent played well. I thank all my fans" and silently take their prize money.
MC coming out as the undertaker is cocky as hell and everyone loved it.
Has nothing to do with Stephano being white. You know why Stephano has such a bigger fanbase than Naniwa, despite arguably being on the same skill level? Personality. Naniwa is shy, quiet and doesn't show his joy, excitement and pride in winning.
Why don't you GTFO of TL and realize what the people want. You are in the minority.
I agree with you about stephano, but when people say Idra and the like have "personality" it makes me want to punch someone in the face. You can have personality without being demeaning to your opponents and without disrespecting people.
About Stephano, he's a great player, I mostly root against him because of his retarded fanboys and my unrelenting love for MC, but the crazy fanboys have reduced in numbers (no idea why they suddenly became normal people), which means LRs featuring Stephano are nicer now.
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.
In other words: 1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring? 1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?
LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.
Stephano is an arab, he isn't white, he is a foreigner, don't be an idiot.
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Humble Korean Act -youtube clips-
Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.
In other words: 1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring? 1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?
LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.
It's you that are being racist.
To be fair they're both being racist but the second guy is worse. Which is ironic for sure, there's an argument to be made against stereotypes like "the humble korean"... but that argument certainly shouldn't start with "the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white"...
People should just stop hating. If you are gonna hate, hate the person for who they are, not their race because that just causes way more strife than if I just call Muzzy and Incomplet moronic cockbags.
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.
In other words: 1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring? 1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?
LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.
It's you that are being racist...
Nope its the truth. Think long and hard about it. Many people call him the foreigner hope, why is that? Because he is not Korean...
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.
In other words: 1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring? 1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?
LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.
On September 17 2012 07:15 Garson wrote: Where not able to watch the Finals? Anyone know if there will be vods? Dreamhack dont use to have vods normaly but one can dream..
On September 17 2012 07:15 Garson wrote: Where not able to watch the Finals? Anyone know if there will be vods? Dreamhack dont use to have vods normaly but one can dream..
On September 17 2012 06:59 muzzy wrote: Got to love all the nerds complaining that he is too cocky or cares about the money. He has personality, get over it. The "Humble Korean" act doesn't fly with foreign audiences... it's boring. Nobody wants a guy to go up there and pretend he is so humbled by the experience, so grateful, bla bla bla. The dude just smashed the best Europe has to offer and took home a $25 grand. He should be hyped and he should be cocky.
All the haters can keep on hating, because it's obvious that Stephano draws the crowds. Any tournament he is in, the stream numbers show it. Hell, look at the stream numbers as soon as he starts playing... they always spike and drop when he is done. Whole tournaments suffer when this guy is knocked out early (doesn't happen often...).
Much better, IMO, than half these guys who get up on stage and offer no conversation or emotion at all.
Naniwa can be as "passionate" about the game as he wants... doesn't seem to be getting him too far. Maybe money and success are better driving factors.
Sorry but the only reason Stephano is popular is because he is white and can occasionally take down Koreans. Its racist, narrow-minded people like you, who have no idea about the enthusiasm of many Koreans who make me sick.
In other words: 1 Korean wins and is a bore = all koreans are boring? 1 foreigner celebrates in style = all foreigners celebrate in style?
LOL. Take your racism and GTFO out of Team Liquid.
Thank you for proving my point.
Those Koreans have PERSONALITY. Everyone loves MC, DRG... Firebathero, Keen... these guys are cocky and behave exactly like Stephano!
When I say "The Humble Korean" act, I'm obviously referring to the stereotypical way most Korean progamers (it's changing lately, though) just say "oh, great games. My opponent played well. I thank all my fans" and silently take their prize money.
MC coming out as the undertaker is cocky as hell and everyone loved it.
Has nothing to do with Stephano being white. You know why Stephano has such a bigger fanbase than Naniwa, despite arguably being on the same skill level? Personality. Naniwa is shy, quiet and doesn't show his joy, excitement and pride in winning.
Why don't you GTFO of TL and realize what the people want. You are in the minority.
lmao?
You are more exposed to those guys. To say you know what the other Korean players are like is a joke in itself.
So FBH is the only KeSPA player that comes to your mind when it comes to cocky?
There are a lot of athletes who have confidence or are cocky but that's still an oversimplification.
I'm sure you know what all those other Korean players are all about.
EPT
