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asphyxia88
Profile Joined March 2012
94 Posts
September 15 2012 12:47 GMT
#1141
Really awesome TvT on stream 2 between Happy and LucifroN right now! :o
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 12:49:29
September 15 2012 12:47 GMT
#1142
On September 15 2012 21:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 21:30 Incomplet wrote:
PvZ isnt so bad. Go watch Leenock and DRG for unique zerg play - they tend to favor Lair over Hive tech. Kespa player Roro also adds in a lot of cute little zerg tricks, especially with his infestors. As for Protoss, watching Liquid Hero is one of the finest things this game can offer with heaps of sick warp prism play and insane micro. Creator with his solid play, Seed with his impeccable defense and Squirtle are also awesome to watch too.

To be completely honest, its mainly the foreign zergs who make the game a snorefest with their 20 minute camping in their base till Hive, then destroy everything because their opponent has no idea how to take advantage of the lack of mobility the Broodlords.


Well, these foreign zergs are beating people that were formerly regarded as PvZ gods.
I've always said that if protoss plays PvZ the way players like HerO and Seed did, the matchup could be ridiculously fun. But really, what do you do against a zerg that just masses spines, infestors and brood lords until they have an unbeatable army?


Opportunity cost, every unit in Starcraft, while strong at one thing, is weak to another. There are 3 things weak about Broodlords.

1) Its Hive Tech - tier 3, hit them hard and fast before they manage to get up and running - even if that means cheesing.

2) They are slow - constantly harass them with zealot warp ins and warp prisms. They could even force a base trade.

3) Too many times I see Protoss blinking in their stalkers under the broodlords, then they all get chain fungalled to death. Rarely have I seen Protoss abandon their "army in one control group" ways and approach from multiple angles with small groups of stalkers to flank the broodlords.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
drbrown
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden442 Posts
September 15 2012 12:47 GMT
#1143
Man... baserace
I'm probably being ironic
haroz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Australia707 Posts
September 15 2012 12:48 GMT
#1144
When behind, go dark shrine = :D
Dark Shrine then behind =
LOST MY PASSION
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 15 2012 12:48 GMT
#1145
Happy's plan is playing a lot of tanks, trading against Marines. If there are tank vs tank lines left, he will use HSM / Nuke to kill tanks.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 12:50:21
September 15 2012 12:48 GMT
#1146
Can players on mainstage hear casters? Could see Thorzain smiling when the game started and Apollo was banging on about spoons and then being totally prepared for DT's.
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
September 15 2012 12:49 GMT
#1147
Really observer? really..
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 12:49:48
September 15 2012 12:49 GMT
#1148
Happy uses Seeker Missiles on the SCV's and the Observer moves the camera elsewhere soon as it happens :/
ReDeYe
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United Kingdom160 Posts
September 15 2012 12:49 GMT
#1149
Tournament is already awesome and the Dreamhack guys are rocking this! Hope you guys are enjoying it as much as we are!
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Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
September 15 2012 12:49 GMT
#1150
On September 15 2012 21:48 Full.tilt wrote:
Thorzain can hear casters? Could see him smiling when the game started and Apollo was banging on about spoons and easy defence of DT's.

Sounds like a legit reason to determine that he hears the casters
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 15 2012 12:49 GMT
#1151
On September 15 2012 21:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 21:44 mememolly wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:40 mememolly wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:39 mememolly wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:38 Jakkerr wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:37 mememolly wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:36 Heartland wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:35 Vandrad wrote:
I am Zerg and I'm not whining but
wouldnt just a nerf to broodling- damage and perhaps life benefit the PvZ late-game a lot ?


Or supply 6 like other tier three stuff.


the tech you need for BL is insane compared to other t3 units


yeh that's why theres about 7-8 of them at the 18-20 minute mark.


scout and hit a timing when they're teching


Spine crawlers & infestors.


you let them build up spines and infestor energy? rofl


Like you can decide, you can't move out unless you have an army that completely slaughters roaches. Unless zerg keeps suiciding armies into you, they'll have energy and spines ready.


immortals + forcefields are really good against roaches btw


Yeah, they're also expensive as fuck so unless you wanna go all in (which you are, if you lose your army once, it's game over), you don't move out.


you dont have to all in you can just do damage and force units while you take third, aslong as you have some sentry energy left you can retreat.
savior did nothing wrong
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 15 2012 12:50 GMT
#1152
StarEagle 2-0 TitaN. What the hell TitaN ? First losing 9-1 to Kas in PokerStrategy League, then this lose. What happened to him ? Is it his PvT which is shitty or is he affected by MoW curse ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
freeze_muc
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany160 Posts
September 15 2012 12:50 GMT
#1153
observer perfectly dodging seeker misile hits 3 times in a row..
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 15 2012 12:50 GMT
#1154
happy-luci is crazy lolol
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
September 15 2012 12:50 GMT
#1155
Does anyone know the distribution of the prize money in this tournament? How much does the winner get etc?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 12:51:24
September 15 2012 12:50 GMT
#1156
This is why TvT is awesome.

Even when it's not very high level games can still be very entertaining =D

On September 15 2012 21:49 Mackus wrote:
Happy uses Seeker Missiles on the SCV's and the Observer moves the camera elsewhere soon as it happens :/


Clearly Tasteless knew that it would do fuck all hehe
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
September 15 2012 12:50 GMT
#1157
making ravens almost lost him the game
drbrown
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden442 Posts
September 15 2012 12:50 GMT
#1158
On September 15 2012 21:50 freeze_muc wrote:
observer perfectly dodging seeker misile hits 3 times in a row..


achievement!
I'm probably being ironic
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 15 2012 12:51 GMT
#1159
On September 15 2012 21:50 revel8 wrote:
Does anyone know the distribution of the prize money in this tournament? How much does the winner get etc?

I assume its the same as NA.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/North_America/Finals
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46221 Posts
September 15 2012 12:52 GMT
#1160
On September 15 2012 21:44 scares wrote:
I have to say Happy vs Lucifron ( on DH stream 2 casted by tastosis) is amazing thats how i love my TvT :D marine tank vs marine tank action


Really is an insane game Have to agree, even though I tend to find it a boring match up (because of how slow it usually tends to be).

Also really glad that Happy won that game. TvT is a game of chess, and Happy had much better decision-making all game long and Lucifron was just way too sloppy.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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