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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
September 15 2012 19:27 GMT
#3741
On September 16 2012 04:22 lolspoon wrote:
Even if Grubby loses to Nerchio now, he will still play tiebrakers for the last spot to China since Stephano is directly seeded. Right?!

Yup
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
September 15 2012 19:27 GMT
#3742
On September 16 2012 04:25 Aando wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:23 Asymmetric wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:21 zev318 wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.


maybe build like 8 hatcheries imo, he couldnt use those drone for anything else useful


Your meant to march spore crawlers with your broodlord army in those situations. They don't lose health off creep and are scoring.

See Curious vs MC GSL this season.

They dont? I've always assumed that Z just spew creep under the army to prevent them from loosing health?


Ret couldn't spew creep - you only do that when you have a Lair and he had no Lair
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
September 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#3743
On September 16 2012 04:23 Corrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.


It would have been incredibly simple for him to have had a few spores mixed into his army...was an ENORMOUS blunder by Ret.


Well sure that would be the best solution, but as people pointed out, he had no evo chambers left for a while. Thinking 100% crystal clear isn't really easy in that situation either. Don't spores lose health offcreep anyway, which again brings the problem of Ret having to hunt down Grubby's bases with his army?
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
September 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#3744
SaSe has a sick amount of fans in China as well I think, he stayed there for some time when he played wc3 iirc
kruxey
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria168 Posts
September 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#3745
On September 16 2012 04:22 mandigal wrote:
I wonder if Grubby actually knew that this were the last zerg structures or if it happened by accident?

He sent zealots to every corner so probably yes also if rets army came he probably could have just backed up he also had 3 expos with probes and if the battle was kind of an eaven trade then grubby was still able to replenish enough to win.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
September 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#3746
On September 16 2012 04:27 shepherdxoxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:25 simmeh wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:24 lannisport wrote:
I want Grubby to win so bad (700k twitter followers in China, WC3 history), but I also want Nerchio to win..... I'm so conflicted. At least if Grubby wins Stephy still makes it.


grubby in wcs world finals china would actually make the event that much more hype. guy is a god over there o_o

I still remember the video where he had to climb out of a window to escape a throng of Chinese people only to be met on the outside by another legion. Awesome stuff. :D

Not to mention the police escorts he gets! :D

You mean this one?
It's good to be back
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
September 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#3747
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
September 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#3748
On September 16 2012 04:25 simmeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:24 lannisport wrote:
I want Grubby to win so bad (700k twitter followers in China, WC3 history), but I also want Nerchio to win..... I'm so conflicted. At least if Grubby wins Stephy still makes it.


grubby in wcs world finals china would actually make the event that much more hype. guy is a god over there o_o

Yep He has to run for safety due to fan mobbing
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
September 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#3749
On September 16 2012 04:27 shepherdxoxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:25 simmeh wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:24 lannisport wrote:
I want Grubby to win so bad (700k twitter followers in China, WC3 history), but I also want Nerchio to win..... I'm so conflicted. At least if Grubby wins Stephy still makes it.


grubby in wcs world finals china would actually make the event that much more hype. guy is a god over there o_o

I still remember the video where he had to climb out of a window to escape a throng of Chinese people only to be met on the outside by another legion. Awesome stuff. :D

Not to mention the police escorts he gets! :D

I still remember the face on Grubby's face once he jumped out of the window and discovered there were people waiting for him down bellow "god dammit...." haha.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#3750
On September 16 2012 04:21 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:18 zmansman17 wrote:
Not sure what to think Happy for Grubby but wanted engagement


50 000 people just got blue balled hard.


Definitely.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3751
On September 16 2012 04:28 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:23 Corrupted wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.


It would have been incredibly simple for him to have had a few spores mixed into his army...was an ENORMOUS blunder by Ret.


Well sure that would be the best solution, but as people pointed out, he had no evo chambers left for a while. Thinking 100% crystal clear isn't really easy in that situation either. Don't spores lose health offcreep anyway, which again brings the problem of Ret having to hunt down Grubby's bases with his army?

They have regen when unrooted which counteracts the health loss. You can have them live indefinitely unrooted even without creep.
ContrailNZ
Profile Joined January 2007
New Zealand306 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3752
Grubby shifting up the Grubby line after a short stay in Korea.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33711 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3753
Losers round five matches are tomorrow :O
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3754
On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.

because RET failed to protect his remaining buildings
kruxey
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria168 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3755
On September 16 2012 04:28 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:23 Corrupted wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.


It would have been incredibly simple for him to have had a few spores mixed into his army...was an ENORMOUS blunder by Ret.


Well sure that would be the best solution, but as people pointed out, he had no evo chambers left for a while. Thinking 100% crystal clear isn't really easy in that situation either. Don't spores lose health offcreep anyway, which again brings the problem of Ret having to hunt down Grubby's bases with his army?

They don't take dmg when they are uprooted.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3756
On September 16 2012 04:28 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:27 shepherdxoxo wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:25 simmeh wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:24 lannisport wrote:
I want Grubby to win so bad (700k twitter followers in China, WC3 history), but I also want Nerchio to win..... I'm so conflicted. At least if Grubby wins Stephy still makes it.


grubby in wcs world finals china would actually make the event that much more hype. guy is a god over there o_o

I still remember the video where he had to climb out of a window to escape a throng of Chinese people only to be met on the outside by another legion. Awesome stuff. :D

Not to mention the police escorts he gets! :D

You mean this one?


It's like Day Z
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3757
On September 16 2012 04:28 -_- wrote:
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???

No, no more loser's bracket today.
It's good to be back
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3758
i always thought grubby baceraced so much in Wc3 cause of raiders and pillage. but he still seems to like it
Korlin
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada142 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3759
Surprised that the casters didn't notice what grubby was up to with all of his zealots running around the map. Guess they were just too busy anticipating the epic final battle between the carriers/mothership and the corrupters/infestors. Really wish we could have seen that actually happen.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#3760
On September 16 2012 04:28 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:27 shepherdxoxo wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:25 simmeh wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:24 lannisport wrote:
I want Grubby to win so bad (700k twitter followers in China, WC3 history), but I also want Nerchio to win..... I'm so conflicted. At least if Grubby wins Stephy still makes it.


grubby in wcs world finals china would actually make the event that much more hype. guy is a god over there o_o

I still remember the video where he had to climb out of a window to escape a throng of Chinese people only to be met on the outside by another legion. Awesome stuff. :D

Not to mention the police escorts he gets! :D

You mean this one?

Maybe ret sacrificed himself for esports, defeat himself to ensure that grubby can get to China.
Glorious SEA doto
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