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On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.
He went for a baserace without having an uprooted spore or spine with his army. That's a mind numbingly dumb oversight. Zerg should never ever ever lose because of buildings in a situation like that.
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On September 16 2012 04:19 Mouzone wrote:
Imagine. Just imagine the feeling for the players right now. Grubby must be soooo relieved, but Ret must be feeling incredibly disappointed in himself.
especially if you face a race that can't take their buildings with their army like your race can.
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On September 16 2012 04:18 ELA wrote:![[image loading]](http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs6/3887139_o.gif)
haha .. not like this.. 
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I wonder if Grubby actually knew that this were the last zerg structures or if it happened by accident?
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On September 16 2012 04:20 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 04:18 Shunjal wrote:
Epic observer fails, not even noticing the lack of structures. What ? If we already knew what was gonna happen it wouldn't be the same.
I sure saw the random zealots taking down the majority of remaining structures at Ret's main/natural. Then them taking out the hatchery at the 2 oclock. And Ret's final buildings at 11 oclock.
Mentioned by the casters/observer zero times.
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Ret does that frustratingly often, though not often to that degree.
LOL, Apollo with the "exploitive" language.
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Wonder what ret thought that moment he lost.
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On September 16 2012 04:21 zmansman17 wrote:Not sure if choked is the right word. But he did blunder
Forgetting to keep units/buildings in position because he was going for the kill is a bit of a choke :/
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Even if Grubby loses to Nerchio now, he will still play tiebrakers for the last spot to China since Stephano is directly seeded. Right?!
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On September 16 2012 04:22 Shinobi1982 wrote:haha .. not like this..
so true.
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Grubby didn't have enough carriers 'cause of all the zealots he had and stuff : S. Im pretty sure Ret would have won. I wonder what was going through his head; occupying his attention :S .
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On September 16 2012 04:20 BoReDWiTHLiFe wrote:
90% sure that walking spores and walking spines don't actually count as buildings (you need at least an extractor or a hatchery to remain in the game). Grubby just had units walking everywhere and Ret couldn't build a hatchery right under his army to protect it.
100% they do count as buildings.
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On September 16 2012 04:20 BoReDWiTHLiFe wrote:
90% sure that walking spores and walking spines don't actually count as buildings (you need at least an extractor or a hatchery to remain in the game). Grubby just had units walking everywhere and Ret couldn't build a hatchery right under his army to protect it.
They do count. We had the same exact situation happen between MC and Curious in GSL Code S, Curious won with Spines walking around with his army.
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On September 16 2012 04:21 Bojas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 04:19 Fusilero wrote:On September 16 2012 04:19 Bojas wrote:On September 16 2012 04:17 illsick wrote:
grubby is the best dutch sc2 player Fuck no, look at Ret's results and then at Grubby's.... Just no.. Ret's just slumping a little bit recently stuck in a bad mindset. Well if he keeps his control like that he's not going to recover. Yeah that's true  his control is so many levels under his macro.
He's kind of like top, fantastic macro but at this point everyone has the macro to match it and with the poor control they have it just can't cut it against top tier opponents.
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On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.
It would have been incredibly simple for him to have had a few spores mixed into his army...was an ENORMOUS blunder by Ret.
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On September 16 2012 04:17 Fenrax wrote:trololol
I'm laughing my ass off XD
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On September 16 2012 04:21 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really. maybe build like 8 hatcheries imo, he couldnt use those drone for anything else useful
Your meant to march spore crawlers with your broodlord army in those situations. They don't lose health off creep and are scoring.
See Curious vs MC GSL this season.
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Grubby the king of basetrades has done it again.Such nice play by him!!
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Nerchio will play Grubby tommorow right?
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I want Grubby to win so bad (700k twitter followers in China, WC3 history), but I also want Nerchio to win..... I'm so conflicted. At least if Grubby wins Stephy still makes it. But I don't see Grubby winning unless he pulls off some incredible cheese/baseraces. That was not the first time he sat back did some good harass but let the zerg build an unbeatable army. He didn't get enough stargates and build carriers fast enough for a switch.
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