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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
September 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#3761
[image loading]

Grubby
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
September 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#3762
On September 16 2012 04:27 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:25 Aando wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:23 Asymmetric wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:21 zev318 wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.


maybe build like 8 hatcheries imo, he couldnt use those drone for anything else useful


Your meant to march spore crawlers with your broodlord army in those situations. They don't lose health off creep and are scoring.

See Curious vs MC GSL this season.

They dont? I've always assumed that Z just spew creep under the army to prevent them from loosing health?


Ret couldn't spew creep - you only do that when you have a Lair and he had no Lair

Yea, I know that. I was more talking about the general case. Ah well, I got my answer. Apparently they dont loose health while moving. That's just BS :p
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#3763
On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.

He had all the time in the world to build a hatch and then build crawlers to walk with his army, no way grubby's army could do anything about it.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#3764
Lowely should have this one.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
September 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#3765
On September 16 2012 04:28 -_- wrote:
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???


Today matches left:
Sortof vs Lowely
vortix vs babyknight
Stephano vs Lucifron
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
September 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#3766
On September 16 2012 04:29 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:28 spudde123 wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:23 Corrupted wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.


It would have been incredibly simple for him to have had a few spores mixed into his army...was an ENORMOUS blunder by Ret.


Well sure that would be the best solution, but as people pointed out, he had no evo chambers left for a while. Thinking 100% crystal clear isn't really easy in that situation either. Don't spores lose health offcreep anyway, which again brings the problem of Ret having to hunt down Grubby's bases with his army?

They have regen when unrooted which counteracts the health loss. You can have them live indefinitely unrooted even without creep.


Well that is interesting, I didn't even know that. I suppose in that case having multiple spores hiding under there would have forced Grubby to engage the army, or at least try some sort of suicide strike to snipe the spores.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#3767
On September 16 2012 04:30 SinCitta wrote:
[image loading]

Grubby


The pillaging Grubby!
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
September 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#3768
On September 16 2012 04:28 -_- wrote:
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???

Nope, Softof vs Lowely, BabyKnight vs Vortix and Stephano vs Lucifron is left for today.
Leru
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Romania257 Posts
September 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#3769
On September 16 2012 04:29 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:28 -_- wrote:
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???

No, no more loser's bracket today.


Not quite true, Vortix vs Babyknight will start right about NOW on stream 1.
Less e$ports, more fun
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#3770
Sad that Ret went out the way he did, but I didn't even think of the implications of having Grubby at WCS China... Blizzard will have to upgrade their venue by a few factors if he makes it in, I think

- And of course, guards armed with shovels, to clear paths for Grubby through all the chinese panties that is going to be thrown
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
September 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#3771
Grubby is already qualified for the world finals, because Stephano is in the top 8 and 8th place becomes enough to qualify. Just look at the NA finals, where Scarlett and Vibe where in the top 7 and Huk qualified with a 9th place finish.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#3772
On September 16 2012 04:30 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:28 -_- wrote:
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???

Nope, Softof vs Lowely, BabyKnight vs Vortix and Stephano vs Lucifron is left for today.


Babyknight v. Vortix is going to be a very handsome match
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
September 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#3773
On September 16 2012 04:30 wildstyle1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:28 -_- wrote:
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???


Today matches left:
Sortof vs Lowely
vortix vs babyknight
Stephano vs Lucifron


Ooh, nice matches those two last. Stephano vs. Lucifron especially.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#3774
On September 16 2012 04:30 Leru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:29 Lazzi wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:28 -_- wrote:
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???

No, no more loser's bracket today.


Not quite true, Vortix vs Babyknight will start right about NOW on stream 1.

Vortix vs BK is winners bracket.
Glorious SEA doto
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
September 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#3775
On September 16 2012 04:30 wildstyle1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:28 -_- wrote:
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???


Today matches left:
Sortof vs Lowely
vortix vs babyknight
Stephano vs Lucifron


Thank you wildstyleleet. Sick day of games today. One of my favorite of 2012.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
September 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#3776
On September 16 2012 04:27 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:25 Aando wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:23 Asymmetric wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:21 zev318 wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:21 spudde123 wrote:
I don't understand why that is seen as such a bad blunder by Ret. Grubby had the entire map, and he cleared all the corners of the map pretty much so there was no way Ret had any drones there. The only drones Ret had were with his army and he had no creep at all to build any other buildings than try to build a hatch to the closest place where there is room for the hatch which was at the 3rd of Grubby at that moment of time. Maybe you could argue that he should have put down a hatch in Grubby's main below his army when he destroyed Grubby's buildings there to make space, but he had nowhere else to put them really.


maybe build like 8 hatcheries imo, he couldnt use those drone for anything else useful


Your meant to march spore crawlers with your broodlord army in those situations. They don't lose health off creep and are scoring.

See Curious vs MC GSL this season.

They dont? I've always assumed that Z just spew creep under the army to prevent them from loosing health?


Ret couldn't spew creep - you only do that when you have a Lair and he had no Lair


do you know if lets say an overlord is pooping creep. but then lair/hive get killed.
does the overlord continue pooping creep or does it just stop?
byah!
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
September 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#3777
On September 16 2012 04:30 Leru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:29 Lazzi wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:28 -_- wrote:
Is Nerchio v Grubby played today???

No, no more loser's bracket today.


Not quite true, Vortix vs Babyknight will start right about NOW on stream 1.

Right, but this one was obvious so I didn't mention it.
It's good to be back
shepherdxoxo
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands260 Posts
September 15 2012 19:32 GMT
#3778
On September 16 2012 04:28 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:27 shepherdxoxo wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:25 simmeh wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:24 lannisport wrote:
I want Grubby to win so bad (700k twitter followers in China, WC3 history), but I also want Nerchio to win..... I'm so conflicted. At least if Grubby wins Stephy still makes it.


grubby in wcs world finals china would actually make the event that much more hype. guy is a god over there o_o

I still remember the video where he had to climb out of a window to escape a throng of Chinese people only to be met on the outside by another legion. Awesome stuff. :D

Not to mention the police escorts he gets! :D

You mean this one?

Okay, I overexaggerated a bit. Haha. Guess my imagination wanted a throng or legion to be there. :D

But yeah, that was so awesome!
Rain <3
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 15 2012 19:32 GMT
#3779
Lowely playing well !
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 19:32 GMT
#3780
Not sure why Sort of is even allowing Lowely to take so many drones
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
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