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regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
September 13 2012 13:23 GMT
#1741
On September 13 2012 22:06 LeLfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 21:34 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Can I watch the VOD's somewhere?


nope KeSPA refused the games to be casted


oh yeah?
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
September 13 2012 13:36 GMT
#1742
On September 13 2012 22:23 regizer239 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 22:06 LeLfe wrote:
On September 13 2012 21:34 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Can I watch the VOD's somewhere?


nope KeSPA refused the games to be casted


oh yeah?



Khaldor wanted to cast and said that he wasn't allowed to because the situation was tense between ESF and KeSPA after the GSL-OSL crisis. When it was ESF only, he could cast, really need a map to figure where the veto comes from?
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
September 13 2012 13:59 GMT
#1743
On September 13 2012 22:36 LeLfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 22:23 regizer239 wrote:
On September 13 2012 22:06 LeLfe wrote:
On September 13 2012 21:34 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Can I watch the VOD's somewhere?


nope KeSPA refused the games to be casted


oh yeah?



Khaldor wanted to cast and said that he wasn't allowed to because the situation was tense between ESF and KeSPA after the GSL-OSL crisis. When it was ESF only, he could cast, really need a map to figure where the veto comes from?


Ah, thanks for explaining. Guess kespa is useless as ever.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 13 2012 14:02 GMT
#1744
an association for esports slave drivers. wonderful.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1104 Posts
September 13 2012 14:50 GMT
#1745
Food for thought. Ten Kespa players qualified, ten "GSL" players qualified, and one teamless. Came out really even. Kespa players caught up really fast.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
September 13 2012 14:51 GMT
#1746
On September 13 2012 21:57 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 21:37 ElephantBaby wrote:
On September 13 2012 21:30 goswser wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:35 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:33 Mackus wrote:
Gotta laugh at the Reddit suggesting Flash is a Code S material because he beat Horror. I mean like I could stand a chance against Horror ffs.


i'd rather laugh at your own ignorance and cockiness.

Despite his cockiness Horror is one of the weaker players on LG-IM, and a win against him really doesn't prove much.


How about the win against MC?

Says much more than the win against Horror even though it was only a best of 1.


This criticism is hilarious coming from you.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 13 2012 14:57 GMT
#1747
On September 13 2012 23:50 shockaslim wrote:
Food for thought. Ten Kespa players qualified, ten "GSL" players qualified, and one teamless. Came out really even. Kespa players caught up really fast.


Food for thought. The 'top' 45 GSL players are already in Code A/S, the 'top' 6 Kespa players are already in Code A/S. The rest came out to 50/50. I am not saying Kespa isn't catching up (they are and they should be). But if you are trying to argue they (as a whole) are on even ground now, the prelims definitely did not show that.
necmon
Profile Joined September 2010
194 Posts
September 13 2012 14:59 GMT
#1748
vthree: I think your analysis is correct ^^
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
September 13 2012 15:01 GMT
#1749
On September 13 2012 23:57 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 23:50 shockaslim wrote:
Food for thought. Ten Kespa players qualified, ten "GSL" players qualified, and one teamless. Came out really even. Kespa players caught up really fast.


Food for thought. The 'top' 45 GSL players are already in Code A/S, the 'top' 6 Kespa players are already in Code A/S. The rest came out to 50/50. I am not saying Kespa isn't catching up (they are and they should be). But if you are trying to argue they (as a whole) are on even ground now, the prelims definitely did not show that.


Yeah, that's good and all, but you should just watch Flash, Fantasy, By.Sun, and other Kespa players. They are clearly on even ground now
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 13 2012 15:03 GMT
#1750
On September 14 2012 00:01 Sroobz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 23:57 vthree wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:50 shockaslim wrote:
Food for thought. Ten Kespa players qualified, ten "GSL" players qualified, and one teamless. Came out really even. Kespa players caught up really fast.


Food for thought. The 'top' 45 GSL players are already in Code A/S, the 'top' 6 Kespa players are already in Code A/S. The rest came out to 50/50. I am not saying Kespa isn't catching up (they are and they should be). But if you are trying to argue they (as a whole) are on even ground now, the prelims definitely did not show that.


Yeah, that's good and all, but you should just watch Flash, Fantasy, By.Sun, and other Kespa players. They are clearly on even ground now

only a select few (<10 or so) are right now, though. the rest may well catch up in the later code A stages though
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 13 2012 15:03 GMT
#1751
On September 14 2012 00:01 Sroobz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 23:57 vthree wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:50 shockaslim wrote:
Food for thought. Ten Kespa players qualified, ten "GSL" players qualified, and one teamless. Came out really even. Kespa players caught up really fast.


Food for thought. The 'top' 45 GSL players are already in Code A/S, the 'top' 6 Kespa players are already in Code A/S. The rest came out to 50/50. I am not saying Kespa isn't catching up (they are and they should be). But if you are trying to argue they (as a whole) are on even ground now, the prelims definitely did not show that.


Yeah, that's good and all, but you should just watch Flash, Fantasy, By.Sun, and other Kespa players. They are clearly on even ground now


That is why I said "as a whole"... That is like saying foreigners have caught up to Koreans because Stephano/Naniwa/Nerchio can play Koreans on even ground.
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
September 13 2012 15:06 GMT
#1752
On September 14 2012 00:03 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 00:01 Sroobz wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:57 vthree wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:50 shockaslim wrote:
Food for thought. Ten Kespa players qualified, ten "GSL" players qualified, and one teamless. Came out really even. Kespa players caught up really fast.


Food for thought. The 'top' 45 GSL players are already in Code A/S, the 'top' 6 Kespa players are already in Code A/S. The rest came out to 50/50. I am not saying Kespa isn't catching up (they are and they should be). But if you are trying to argue they (as a whole) are on even ground now, the prelims definitely did not show that.


Yeah, that's good and all, but you should just watch Flash, Fantasy, By.Sun, and other Kespa players. They are clearly on even ground now

only a select few (<10 or so) are right now, though. the rest may well catch up in the later code A stages though


Bw proleague is coming to the end, only few teams wasting their time playing bw so players will start improving faster because they will have more sc2 matches in proleague. I wonder when top koreans start playing hots beta.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 13 2012 15:08 GMT
#1753
On September 13 2012 22:59 regizer239 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 22:36 LeLfe wrote:
On September 13 2012 22:23 regizer239 wrote:
On September 13 2012 22:06 LeLfe wrote:
On September 13 2012 21:34 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Can I watch the VOD's somewhere?


nope KeSPA refused the games to be casted


oh yeah?



Khaldor wanted to cast and said that he wasn't allowed to because the situation was tense between ESF and KeSPA after the GSL-OSL crisis. When it was ESF only, he could cast, really need a map to figure where the veto comes from?


Ah, thanks for explaining. Guess kespa is useless as ever.


To be fair to Kespa, GOM did not allow broadcast/stream of the prelims for a long time as well (pressure on players, logistics, etc).
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 13 2012 15:10 GMT
#1754
On September 14 2012 00:06 Michaels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 00:03 opterown wrote:
On September 14 2012 00:01 Sroobz wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:57 vthree wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:50 shockaslim wrote:
Food for thought. Ten Kespa players qualified, ten "GSL" players qualified, and one teamless. Came out really even. Kespa players caught up really fast.


Food for thought. The 'top' 45 GSL players are already in Code A/S, the 'top' 6 Kespa players are already in Code A/S. The rest came out to 50/50. I am not saying Kespa isn't catching up (they are and they should be). But if you are trying to argue they (as a whole) are on even ground now, the prelims definitely did not show that.


Yeah, that's good and all, but you should just watch Flash, Fantasy, By.Sun, and other Kespa players. They are clearly on even ground now

only a select few (<10 or so) are right now, though. the rest may well catch up in the later code A stages though


Bw proleague is coming to the end, only few teams wasting their time playing bw so players will start improving faster because they will have more sc2 matches in proleague. I wonder when top koreans start playing hots beta.


I think a few have been trying it out (Taeja was streaming it I think) but I don't think they will get into it seriously until the big tournaments switch. And from the HoTS tournaments now, it seems the maps are a bigger factor compare to the units. Of course, it does take long for units to be incorporated into competitive builds.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 13 2012 15:11 GMT
#1755
On September 13 2012 22:36 LeLfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 22:23 regizer239 wrote:
On September 13 2012 22:06 LeLfe wrote:
On September 13 2012 21:34 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Can I watch the VOD's somewhere?


nope KeSPA refused the games to be casted


oh yeah?



Khaldor wanted to cast and said that he wasn't allowed to because the situation was tense between ESF and KeSPA after the GSL-OSL crisis. When it was ESF only, he could cast, really need a map to figure where the veto comes from?


Gom didn't always allow the games to be cast either.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
September 13 2012 15:50 GMT
#1756
flash for the true royal road: code B, code A, Code S victory all in first try.

would be hilarious if he royal roads in GSL, when he didn´t in OSL
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
September 13 2012 15:56 GMT
#1757
yay flash
Maruprime.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 13 2012 16:05 GMT
#1758
On September 14 2012 00:03 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 00:01 Sroobz wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:57 vthree wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:50 shockaslim wrote:
Food for thought. Ten Kespa players qualified, ten "GSL" players qualified, and one teamless. Came out really even. Kespa players caught up really fast.


Food for thought. The 'top' 45 GSL players are already in Code A/S, the 'top' 6 Kespa players are already in Code A/S. The rest came out to 50/50. I am not saying Kespa isn't catching up (they are and they should be). But if you are trying to argue they (as a whole) are on even ground now, the prelims definitely did not show that.


Yeah, that's good and all, but you should just watch Flash, Fantasy, By.Sun, and other Kespa players. They are clearly on even ground now

only a select few (<10 or so) are right now, though. the rest may well catch up in the later code A stages though


That means they caught up.

Only a select few (<10 or so) ESF players are as good as the top ESF players. Only a select few (<10 or so) kespa players are as good as the top kespa players.

The top Kespa players are almost as good as the top ESF players and then both groups fall off below.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 13 2012 16:13 GMT
#1759
On September 14 2012 01:05 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 00:03 opterown wrote:
On September 14 2012 00:01 Sroobz wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:57 vthree wrote:
On September 13 2012 23:50 shockaslim wrote:
Food for thought. Ten Kespa players qualified, ten "GSL" players qualified, and one teamless. Came out really even. Kespa players caught up really fast.


Food for thought. The 'top' 45 GSL players are already in Code A/S, the 'top' 6 Kespa players are already in Code A/S. The rest came out to 50/50. I am not saying Kespa isn't catching up (they are and they should be). But if you are trying to argue they (as a whole) are on even ground now, the prelims definitely did not show that.


Yeah, that's good and all, but you should just watch Flash, Fantasy, By.Sun, and other Kespa players. They are clearly on even ground now

only a select few (<10 or so) are right now, though. the rest may well catch up in the later code A stages though


That means they caught up.

Only a select few (<10 or so) ESF players are as good as the top ESF players. Only a select few (<10 or so) kespa players are as good as the top kespa players.

The top Kespa players are almost as good as the top ESF players and then both groups fall off below.


lol, love your logic there...
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 16:38:38
September 13 2012 16:36 GMT
#1760
Well, if the ESF players like Liquid'Hero (although Liquid might not really count, you get the idea) say the Kespa guys are on even footing now, I'm going to believe them. But that's just me.
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