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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
September 13 2012 20:57 GMT
#1781
On September 14 2012 05:21 Moletrap wrote:
Some of these progamers are so fidgety, lol... when I interviewed Bisu last month he was constantly touching his arm and his hair and stuff.



I can tell Flash was somewhat nervous. His right eye was twitching. But being the god he is, probably he was just blessing us with his superpowers.
Pasargadae
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 22:01:14
September 13 2012 21:41 GMT
#1782
What is he doing at 1:40? Seems to be the question on everyone's mind.

Nvm figured it out.
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
September 13 2012 22:15 GMT
#1783
On September 14 2012 05:57 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 05:21 Moletrap wrote:
Some of these progamers are so fidgety, lol... when I interviewed Bisu last month he was constantly touching his arm and his hair and stuff.



I can tell Flash was somewhat nervous. His right eye was twitching. But being the god he is, probably he was just blessing us with his superpowers.


OH SHIT FLASH BROUGHT OUT THE EYE TWITCH

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"HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out"
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
September 13 2012 22:22 GMT
#1784
On September 14 2012 07:15 Antimatterz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 05:57 Godwrath wrote:
On September 14 2012 05:21 Moletrap wrote:
Some of these progamers are so fidgety, lol... when I interviewed Bisu last month he was constantly touching his arm and his hair and stuff.



I can tell Flash was somewhat nervous. His right eye was twitching. But being the god he is, probably he was just blessing us with his superpowers.


OH SHIT FLASH BROUGHT OUT THE EYE TWITCH

GSL Royal Road inc.
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I'm only half joking btw


Supersayan mode activated.
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
September 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#1785
On September 13 2012 20:33 Mackus wrote:
Gotta laugh at the Reddit suggesting Flash is a Code S material because he beat Horror. I mean like I could stand a chance against Horror ffs.

WCS Prelims horror 2-1 MarineKing
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
September 13 2012 23:32 GMT
#1786
I do Just want to explain the game a little more, I'll mirror this on both Reddit and TL so people can read it. I am the same masterbreti/radrel who was doing the lr'ing. I was able to sit right behind sase during the games, specfically the 3rd game in which he should have won.

Basically what had happend is that Kop went for a 1-1-1 without banshees (I didn't see any banshees anyways) Kop pushed to Sase tower with 2 tanks and 4-5 marines (Cloud kingdom) Sase had a obs there and basically caught 2 of Kops tanks unseiged, and got the marines as well.

This basically meant kop was on one base and his marine tank all-in wouldn't work at all. Sase had the game from there, since he had immortals out and a 2nd base.

Sase after a couple of minutes pushed and was able to get kop to cancel his 2nd base, kop started to drop, and whenever sase would move out, kop would drop, it was like mma on crack with the drops. Sase kept going back and dealing with them, eventually allowing kop to get his 2nd up. kop kept trying to push here and there and sase just kept owning the armies and started to push more and started forcing lifts on the 2nd base.

Kop though kept getting tanks, going up to almost 10 on his ledge in his main overlooking the natural

Sase made a big mistake in one engagement and lost a huge chunk of his army to tank fire, all the while still on 2 bases. Kop was eventually able to stablize due to this and kop contiuned with the drops, they were relentless (I had a feeling kop had a hidden base somewhere, but I didn't see sase scout anything, I don't think sase scouted for it at all) Kops drops were doing a ton of damage and forcing sase to pull back, eventually sase got tired of this and went for a final attack with some colo and a good almost maxed out army. Kop had a 3rd up at this point, although sase was able to force a lift, sase lost a lot and kop lost a lot less, Kop dropped sase's main and started doing a ton of damage, Sase got fed up and went in for the kill, only to lose his army very quickly to tank/bio attacks. Sase then calls GG

When I saw Sase GG I was shocked, he had this game in his hands, kop played amazing though, but sase lost this game, kop didn't win it. Kop was owned in any straigt up engagement up until sase moved his army a little to close to the tanks. thats when kop was able to stabalize and regrow his army.

on top of that sase never got a 3rd (I didn't see one anyways) so sase was losing the second kop was able to get his 2nd up, since it was so much later, Kop would win the attribution game, bearing in mid that sase stayed on 2 bases.

This is just what I remember about the game though, my memory isn't perfect (I was really tired at the time, and still am) but that is roughly what happend.

Sase should though I think once denying the nat a few times, back off, build some cannons in his main(a lot of cannons) and secure a third base. This would have allowed him to win the game and keep denying the third base. but thats just me.

Anyways the game was pretty superb. The only game that had a comeback that big was leenock vs mvp on dual sight, and even then leenock still won
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 13 2012 23:48 GMT
#1787
On September 14 2012 08:18 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:33 Mackus wrote:
Gotta laugh at the Reddit suggesting Flash is a Code S material because he beat Horror. I mean like I could stand a chance against Horror ffs.

WCS Prelims horror 2-1 MarineKing

considering mkp has had a lot of trouble against zerg, and that the loss was a 1base bane bust, i wouldn't read so much into that haha
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 14 2012 00:07 GMT
#1788
On September 14 2012 08:18 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:33 Mackus wrote:
Gotta laugh at the Reddit suggesting Flash is a Code S material because he beat Horror. I mean like I could stand a chance against Horror ffs.

WCS Prelims horror 2-1 MarineKing


MarineKing is..MarineKing. On a good day he can destroy every single player out there, on a bad day, he loses to just about everyone.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
September 14 2012 00:43 GMT
#1789
On September 14 2012 08:32 masterbreti wrote:
I do Just want to explain the game a little more, I'll mirror this on both Reddit and TL so people can read it. I am the same masterbreti/radrel who was doing the lr'ing. I was able to sit right behind sase during the games, specfically the 3rd game in which he should have won.

Basically what had happend is that Kop went for a 1-1-1 without banshees (I didn't see any banshees anyways) Kop pushed to Sase tower with 2 tanks and 4-5 marines (Cloud kingdom) Sase had a obs there and basically caught 2 of Kops tanks unseiged, and got the marines as well.

This basically meant kop was on one base and his marine tank all-in wouldn't work at all. Sase had the game from there, since he had immortals out and a 2nd base.

Sase after a couple of minutes pushed and was able to get kop to cancel his 2nd base, kop started to drop, and whenever sase would move out, kop would drop, it was like mma on crack with the drops. Sase kept going back and dealing with them, eventually allowing kop to get his 2nd up. kop kept trying to push here and there and sase just kept owning the armies and started to push more and started forcing lifts on the 2nd base.

Kop though kept getting tanks, going up to almost 10 on his ledge in his main overlooking the natural

Sase made a big mistake in one engagement and lost a huge chunk of his army to tank fire, all the while still on 2 bases. Kop was eventually able to stablize due to this and kop contiuned with the drops, they were relentless (I had a feeling kop had a hidden base somewhere, but I didn't see sase scout anything, I don't think sase scouted for it at all) Kops drops were doing a ton of damage and forcing sase to pull back, eventually sase got tired of this and went for a final attack with some colo and a good almost maxed out army. Kop had a 3rd up at this point, although sase was able to force a lift, sase lost a lot and kop lost a lot less, Kop dropped sase's main and started doing a ton of damage, Sase got fed up and went in for the kill, only to lose his army very quickly to tank/bio attacks. Sase then calls GG

When I saw Sase GG I was shocked, he had this game in his hands, kop played amazing though, but sase lost this game, kop didn't win it. Kop was owned in any straigt up engagement up until sase moved his army a little to close to the tanks. thats when kop was able to stabalize and regrow his army.

on top of that sase never got a 3rd (I didn't see one anyways) so sase was losing the second kop was able to get his 2nd up, since it was so much later, Kop would win the attribution game, bearing in mid that sase stayed on 2 bases.

This is just what I remember about the game though, my memory isn't perfect (I was really tired at the time, and still am) but that is roughly what happend.

Sase should though I think once denying the nat a few times, back off, build some cannons in his main(a lot of cannons) and secure a third base. This would have allowed him to win the game and keep denying the third base. but thats just me.

Anyways the game was pretty superb. The only game that had a comeback that big was leenock vs mvp on dual sight, and even then leenock still won

ehhhhhhh....just admit that Sase is not a good player! especially not one that can handle tough situations during a game. A LOSER IS A LOSER. The other guy did a good job of dropping causing Sase to become indecisive. Kop knew exactly what to do when he's behind, which is to siege up in a great position while dropping a ton. That game showed the difference a player with a great mindset of a winner and champion and one that falls under pressure, the difference between players that win tournament and those that just always hang around at the bottom. A player's mental state in game is really important as mentioned by many players. Sase just does not have the mind of a winner, even when he's ahead.
Please stop the constant mentioning of Sase losing his game and that his opponent didn't win it, and stop taking credit away from the winner. If you keep assuming Sase throwing the game and discrediting the winner, then you also imply that Sase just doesn't have the skill compete.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 14 2012 00:46 GMT
#1790
On September 14 2012 09:43 NoGasfOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 08:32 masterbreti wrote:
I do Just want to explain the game a little more, I'll mirror this on both Reddit and TL so people can read it. I am the same masterbreti/radrel who was doing the lr'ing. I was able to sit right behind sase during the games, specfically the 3rd game in which he should have won.

Basically what had happend is that Kop went for a 1-1-1 without banshees (I didn't see any banshees anyways) Kop pushed to Sase tower with 2 tanks and 4-5 marines (Cloud kingdom) Sase had a obs there and basically caught 2 of Kops tanks unseiged, and got the marines as well.

This basically meant kop was on one base and his marine tank all-in wouldn't work at all. Sase had the game from there, since he had immortals out and a 2nd base.

Sase after a couple of minutes pushed and was able to get kop to cancel his 2nd base, kop started to drop, and whenever sase would move out, kop would drop, it was like mma on crack with the drops. Sase kept going back and dealing with them, eventually allowing kop to get his 2nd up. kop kept trying to push here and there and sase just kept owning the armies and started to push more and started forcing lifts on the 2nd base.

Kop though kept getting tanks, going up to almost 10 on his ledge in his main overlooking the natural

Sase made a big mistake in one engagement and lost a huge chunk of his army to tank fire, all the while still on 2 bases. Kop was eventually able to stablize due to this and kop contiuned with the drops, they were relentless (I had a feeling kop had a hidden base somewhere, but I didn't see sase scout anything, I don't think sase scouted for it at all) Kops drops were doing a ton of damage and forcing sase to pull back, eventually sase got tired of this and went for a final attack with some colo and a good almost maxed out army. Kop had a 3rd up at this point, although sase was able to force a lift, sase lost a lot and kop lost a lot less, Kop dropped sase's main and started doing a ton of damage, Sase got fed up and went in for the kill, only to lose his army very quickly to tank/bio attacks. Sase then calls GG

When I saw Sase GG I was shocked, he had this game in his hands, kop played amazing though, but sase lost this game, kop didn't win it. Kop was owned in any straigt up engagement up until sase moved his army a little to close to the tanks. thats when kop was able to stabalize and regrow his army.

on top of that sase never got a 3rd (I didn't see one anyways) so sase was losing the second kop was able to get his 2nd up, since it was so much later, Kop would win the attribution game, bearing in mid that sase stayed on 2 bases.

This is just what I remember about the game though, my memory isn't perfect (I was really tired at the time, and still am) but that is roughly what happend.

Sase should though I think once denying the nat a few times, back off, build some cannons in his main(a lot of cannons) and secure a third base. This would have allowed him to win the game and keep denying the third base. but thats just me.

Anyways the game was pretty superb. The only game that had a comeback that big was leenock vs mvp on dual sight, and even then leenock still won

ehhhhhhh....just admit that Sase is not a good player! especially not one that can handle tough situations during a game. A LOSER IS A LOSER. The other guy did a good job of dropping causing Sase to become indecisive. Kop knew exactly what to do when he's behind, which is to siege up in a great position while dropping a ton. That game showed the difference a player with a great mindset of a winner and champion and one that falls under pressure, the difference between players that win tournament and those that just always hang around at the bottom. A player's mental state in game is really important as mentioned by many players. Sase just does not have the mind of a winner, even when he's ahead.
Please stop the constant mentioning of Sase losing his game and that his opponent didn't win it, and stop taking credit away from the winner. If you keep assuming Sase throwing the game and discrediting the winner, then you also imply that Sase just doesn't have the skill compete.

lol, biased fan is biased hahaha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
September 14 2012 00:53 GMT
#1791
On September 14 2012 04:49 Moletrap wrote:
One more Flash vid... I got to interview him after the last game!



thats amazing! thx!
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 01:33:34
September 14 2012 01:30 GMT
#1792
On September 14 2012 09:43 NoGasfOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 08:32 masterbreti wrote:
I do Just want to explain the game a little more, I'll mirror this on both Reddit and TL so people can read it. I am the same masterbreti/radrel who was doing the lr'ing. I was able to sit right behind sase during the games, specfically the 3rd game in which he should have won.

Basically what had happend is that Kop went for a 1-1-1 without banshees (I didn't see any banshees anyways) Kop pushed to Sase tower with 2 tanks and 4-5 marines (Cloud kingdom) Sase had a obs there and basically caught 2 of Kops tanks unseiged, and got the marines as well.

This basically meant kop was on one base and his marine tank all-in wouldn't work at all. Sase had the game from there, since he had immortals out and a 2nd base.

Sase after a couple of minutes pushed and was able to get kop to cancel his 2nd base, kop started to drop, and whenever sase would move out, kop would drop, it was like mma on crack with the drops. Sase kept going back and dealing with them, eventually allowing kop to get his 2nd up. kop kept trying to push here and there and sase just kept owning the armies and started to push more and started forcing lifts on the 2nd base.

Kop though kept getting tanks, going up to almost 10 on his ledge in his main overlooking the natural

Sase made a big mistake in one engagement and lost a huge chunk of his army to tank fire, all the while still on 2 bases. Kop was eventually able to stablize due to this and kop contiuned with the drops, they were relentless (I had a feeling kop had a hidden base somewhere, but I didn't see sase scout anything, I don't think sase scouted for it at all) Kops drops were doing a ton of damage and forcing sase to pull back, eventually sase got tired of this and went for a final attack with some colo and a good almost maxed out army. Kop had a 3rd up at this point, although sase was able to force a lift, sase lost a lot and kop lost a lot less, Kop dropped sase's main and started doing a ton of damage, Sase got fed up and went in for the kill, only to lose his army very quickly to tank/bio attacks. Sase then calls GG

When I saw Sase GG I was shocked, he had this game in his hands, kop played amazing though, but sase lost this game, kop didn't win it. Kop was owned in any straigt up engagement up until sase moved his army a little to close to the tanks. thats when kop was able to stabalize and regrow his army.

on top of that sase never got a 3rd (I didn't see one anyways) so sase was losing the second kop was able to get his 2nd up, since it was so much later, Kop would win the attribution game, bearing in mid that sase stayed on 2 bases.

This is just what I remember about the game though, my memory isn't perfect (I was really tired at the time, and still am) but that is roughly what happend.

Sase should though I think once denying the nat a few times, back off, build some cannons in his main(a lot of cannons) and secure a third base. This would have allowed him to win the game and keep denying the third base. but thats just me.

Anyways the game was pretty superb. The only game that had a comeback that big was leenock vs mvp on dual sight, and even then leenock still won

ehhhhhhh....just admit that Sase is not a good player! especially not one that can handle tough situations during a game. A LOSER IS A LOSER. The other guy did a good job of dropping causing Sase to become indecisive. Kop knew exactly what to do when he's behind, which is to siege up in a great position while dropping a ton. That game showed the difference a player with a great mindset of a winner and champion and one that falls under pressure, the difference between players that win tournament and those that just always hang around at the bottom. A player's mental state in game is really important as mentioned by many players. Sase just does not have the mind of a winner, even when he's ahead.
Please stop the constant mentioning of Sase losing his game and that his opponent didn't win it, and stop taking credit away from the winner. If you keep assuming Sase throwing the game and discrediting the winner, then you also imply that Sase just doesn't have the skill compete.



unless you where there and saw the entire match, and not just my summary of the match, then I think you would be saying different. Sase delt with the drops really well, but kop was just able to eventually to get stable and keep his position. Sase must have denied Kop natural 5-6 times, but eventually just gave up doing so, Sase played very passive and that was his downfall. He wasn't aggressive unless he was trying to deny kop's expands. and when he wasn't, he was sitting on a tower and such. Sase is a very safe player, and kop was able to use that to his advantage.

Sase played really well, just a few mistakes is what lost him that game. Kop did not derserve to win that game, everyone who saw the match would say the same thing. Kop pulled a rabbit out of his hat or something. Also keep in mind Kop has also beaten Bisu in PL, so Kop ins't a bad player.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 14 2012 02:00 GMT
#1793
every man and his dog has beaten bisu in spl

...

i kid, i kid! am happy he's doing better of late
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
iAmiAnC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom317 Posts
September 14 2012 09:26 GMT
#1794
Thanks again for these videos Moletrap, loved the Fantasy GG timing comment when you were sitting right next to Fantasy rofl
http://www.twitch.tv/iamianc <- High master EU terran stream /w commentary!
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
September 14 2012 11:00 GMT
#1795
It would be nice to have a list of the notable eliminations in the OP. <3
zerino
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark253 Posts
September 14 2012 11:14 GMT
#1796
Flash HWAITING!!!
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
September 14 2012 11:35 GMT
#1797
On September 14 2012 09:07 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 08:18 DiMano wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:33 Mackus wrote:
Gotta laugh at the Reddit suggesting Flash is a Code S material because he beat Horror. I mean like I could stand a chance against Horror ffs.

WCS Prelims horror 2-1 MarineKing


MarineKing is..MarineKing. On a good day he can destroy every single player out there, on a bad day, he loses to just about everyone.


Flash 3-0'd his OSL group though didn't he? which included beating MC with a sick hold and ridiculous macro.

I never followed BW, and I'm not a fanboy... but I definately think he's better than say Heart, and more along the lines of Happy, who, whilst isn't great, is still bottom half of Code S.
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Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
September 14 2012 14:27 GMT
#1798
On September 12 2012 02:00 Dodgin wrote:
prelim map pool not exactly terran friendly


T: ten
Z: seven
P: three

turned out all right
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
September 14 2012 15:03 GMT
#1799
On September 14 2012 23:27 Chunhyang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 02:00 Dodgin wrote:
prelim map pool not exactly terran friendly


T: ten
Z: seven
P: three

turned out all right

Cause T is master race
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
jinzo123
Profile Joined September 2009
27 Posts
September 15 2012 06:09 GMT
#1800
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDUwMzI3ODcy.html

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