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IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 12:54:17
August 30 2012 12:52 GMT
#621
yugioh and supernova are both out

even if both happy and vampire lose, all 3 would be 3-2 but happy and vamp beat yugioh and supernova and thus would win the head to head

i think
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 30 2012 12:52 GMT
#622
why god

why do you keep making killer play even though he's out

i can't stand to see him lose so much
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 30 2012 12:52 GMT
#623
On August 30 2012 21:50 Porcelina wrote:
1. If Happy wins, he is in.

2. If Vampire wins, both he and Happy are in.

3. If Happy wins and Vampire loses;

a) Yugioh wins vs Supernova and advances with Happy
b) Supernova wins vs Yugioh and creates a three way tie with Creator, Vampire and himself.

Solved.

Apart from both Happy and Vampire losing.

In which case there will be four people at 3-2. And we will have the first four way tie. Not sure what the rules are on tiebreakers in that instance.

if yugi and creator win, there's a tie i think
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stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
August 30 2012 12:53 GMT
#624
On August 30 2012 21:48 AtlasEndured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:47 Fragile51 wrote:
wait what, creator out now? D:

If Killer beats Happy and Supernova beats YuGiOh, it's a 3way tie between Happy/Supernova/Creator, since Creator>Happy, Happy>Supernova, and Supernova>Creator

What about Vampire? He would be 3-2 then as well since he would lose to Creator and it would be a four way tie.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 30 2012 12:53 GMT
#625
ARGH so messy lol
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Mirrikh
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania105 Posts
August 30 2012 12:54 GMT
#626
On August 30 2012 21:52 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:50 Porcelina wrote:
1. If Happy wins, he is in.

2. If Vampire wins, both he and Happy are in.

3. If Happy wins and Vampire loses;

a) Yugioh wins vs Supernova and advances with Happy
b) Supernova wins vs Yugioh and creates a three way tie with Creator, Vampire and himself.

Solved.


If both Happy and Vampire lose?


Happy and Creator advance.
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 30 2012 12:54 GMT
#627
On August 30 2012 21:52 mikedebo wrote:
why god

why do you keep making killer play even though he's out

i can't stand to see him lose so much


I think he has to because the group hasn't been resolved yet. If they took him out, it'd unbalance things since not everyone has gotten the chance to play him yet.
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
August 30 2012 12:55 GMT
#628
On August 30 2012 21:52 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:50 Porcelina wrote:
1. If Happy wins, he is in.

2. If Vampire wins, both he and Happy are in.

3. If Happy wins and Vampire loses;

a) Yugioh wins vs Supernova and advances with Happy
b) Supernova wins vs Yugioh and creates a three way tie with Creator, Vampire and himself.

Solved.

Apart from both Happy and Vampire losing.

In which case there will be four people at 3-2. And we will have the first four way tie. Not sure what the rules are on tiebreakers in that instance.

if yugi and creator win, there's a tie i think

Yup, it would be Yugioh>Creator>Vampire>Yugioh.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 30 2012 12:55 GMT
#629
Is there anyway for both Supernova and Creator to both go through?
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 30 2012 12:55 GMT
#630
so creator has no chance to make it to the code s?
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 30 2012 12:55 GMT
#631
On August 30 2012 21:51 dainbramage wrote:
Supernova uses tank push successfully 2/3 times: "tanks suck"

The LR thread sometimes...


I think the reason for this is that his first 2 'tank' wins was because of his opponents comp. The main problem with tanks is they can be countered very easily with zealots and immortals (they own stalkers/colossi/sentries). So you have to push before zealot knows you are going tanks and gets the right comp. So you are pretty much on a clock once you decide to go tanks.
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
August 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#632
On August 30 2012 21:53 stipe145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:48 AtlasEndured wrote:
On August 30 2012 21:47 Fragile51 wrote:
wait what, creator out now? D:

If Killer beats Happy and Supernova beats YuGiOh, it's a 3way tie between Happy/Supernova/Creator, since Creator>Happy, Happy>Supernova, and Supernova>Creator

What about Vampire? He would be 3-2 then as well since he would lose to Creator and it would be a four way tie.


There can never be a four way tie in round robin stage. It has to be an odd number.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#633
On August 30 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:
ARGH so messy lol


What else did you expect? We need at least one day in the Up&Downs where everything gets messed up, the favorites lose and everyone starts doing predictions with all the possibilities.
We were missing on this in the last days ^^
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
August 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#634
On August 30 2012 21:48 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:44 kaetor wrote:
That engagement made me sad. Tanks suck D:

Probaly the P upgrades that did it though.


Snova's army was basically: Marines + Tanks + some medivacs

Vampires army was basically the counter required. If Snova had won that battle then it would have been Vampire's poor control. He rolled earlier opponents who had low zealot and immortal numbers.

But sure. Blame the tanks.


vampire lost so many workers at the beginning for no reason at all. he played that game poorly and still came out ahead. snova also had tons of bunkers at the front and some marauders afair.
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
August 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#635
On August 30 2012 21:55 Makro wrote:
so creator has no chance to make it to the code s?

any of the 5 has chances, read the thread
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#636
On August 30 2012 21:50 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:48 bittman wrote:
On August 30 2012 21:44 kaetor wrote:
That engagement made me sad. Tanks suck D:

Probaly the P upgrades that did it though.


Snova's army was basically: Marines + Tanks + some medivacs

Vampires army was basically the counter required. If Snova had won that battle then it would have been Vampire's poor control. He rolled earlier opponents who had low zealot and immortal numbers.

But sure. Blame the tanks.


"The counter required". That counter you speak of is the standard protoss army.


Immortals now a PvT standard? Hardly. Heavy zealot sure. The rest somewhat was.

There is also a positioning game involved and all, but "the counter required" isn't to tanks. It's to marine tank medivac.

Honestly his tanks weren't in a great position. If they're so far back they're basically the "remainder" in the battle. Tanks don't do good alone. You want to save them because of the gas count, but when they're far back all they do is shoot zealots and marines and then when all that is dead some stalkers and immortals behind all that go "Oh just some tanks behind all this? Cool"

I mean, it's not like I disagree with the fact that the Protoss standard army naturally includes counters to tanks. But that's not what makes them 'bad' vs Protoss. Just more a gripe that people blame tanks for the Protoss player actually countering the attack well.
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#637
On August 30 2012 21:52 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:50 Porcelina wrote:
1. If Happy wins, he is in.

2. If Vampire wins, both he and Happy are in.

3. If Happy wins and Vampire loses;

a) Yugioh wins vs Supernova and advances with Happy
b) Supernova wins vs Yugioh and creates a three way tie with Creator, Vampire and himself.

Solved.


If both Happy and Vampire lose?


Edited in:

Apart from both Happy and Vampire losing.

In which case there will be four people at 3-2. And we will have the first four way tie. Not sure what the rules are on tiebreakers in that instance.

- Basically I am not sure whether 2-1 tiebreakers in that situation trump 1-2. If that is the case, then:

i) If Yugioh wins, then Creator and Happy have tiebreakers of 2-1 and advance.
ii) If Supernova wins, then Vampire and Happy have tiebreakers of 2-1 and advance.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
August 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#638
On August 30 2012 21:50 Leetley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:49 vthree wrote:
On August 30 2012 21:47 Fjodorov wrote:
Tank spread was good, and he even had 3 bunkers. Never thought Vampire could break it like that. I wish supernova had been a bit more active with dropping in units in the main and doing dmg, maybe even droping a siege tank there


But the tanks ended up shelling his own bio more then hurt the zealots.

Hopefully Blizz will remove autocast from charge like they've been talking.

Source?
Doubt it would change much anyway.
It's the closing space not charge damage thats a real power of the ability.

Not really surprised about that last engagement.
Tanks in TvP come with attached timer.
Once sufficient tech is out you are better off leaving them to defend harassment.
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#639
On August 30 2012 21:55 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:51 dainbramage wrote:
Supernova uses tank push successfully 2/3 times: "tanks suck"

The LR thread sometimes...


I think the reason for this is that his first 2 'tank' wins was because of his opponents comp. The main problem with tanks is they can be countered very easily with zealots and immortals (they own stalkers/colossi/sentries). So you have to push before zealot knows you are going tanks and gets the right comp. So you are pretty much on a clock once you decide to go tanks.


Moreover, as the game showed, if you lose your first set of tanks you're so very far behind because of how long tanks take to build and how many you need for them to have an impact.
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 30 2012 12:57 GMT
#640
stuff that, wolf and khaldor advance to code S, all these guys drop to code B

ez solved
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