• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:08
CEST 16:08
KST 23:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!37Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 GSTL Announcement Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Best Games Kespa era [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3912 users

[OSL] ODT D4 - Page 19

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 24 Next All
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
August 07 2012 13:59 GMT
#361
On August 07 2012 22:54 opterown wrote:
(P)JangBi, (T)Fantasy, (P)Oz, (T)Mvp, (Z)DongRaeGu, (P)San, (P)PartinG, (P)MC, (T)MarineKing, (Z)NesTea, (P)Flying, (P)By.Sun, (P)BeSt, (T)BaBy, (T)Flash

for RO16 so far, one more to go


and flash is underdog against more than half of these players, who'd have thought this can be in OSL :-))))))))))
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 07 2012 13:59 GMT
#362
Maybe some BW fans are bitter, but I'll bet most have given SC2 a chance, at least in terms of spectating. Perhaps they just don't find it interesting or entertaining, even with their BW heroes playing it.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2012 14:00 GMT
#363
On August 07 2012 22:58 WrexSC2 wrote:
If one of the big name kespa players could somehow post some great results in a tournament it would really help boost SC2's popularity in Korea to another level. I'm sure they'll get there eventually.

yeah i hope at least flash or jangbi can reallyyy rip up their groups and go deep, maybe a finals appearance at least. even if they have to beat my fav players, it would be better for the game in the long run i think if a kespa fan favourite does really well
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 07 2012 14:00 GMT
#364
On August 07 2012 22:56 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 22:55 silent_owl wrote:
Man, this OSL could make the players just want to outright retire. What is happening? At least the GSL is pulling crowds.

They are? I guess you can call 50 people a crowd but..


I know that the GSL pulls more than 50 during at least Finals series and special events.

I don't expect any of these tournaments to draw the crowds that BW used to pull or even that LOL is pulling now. Still, it depresses me that the BW fans wouldn't at least support the players. I mean, I'm not one to talk since I love SC2 but I know the players feel bad about the switch, they could use some support.

And to second the question, are ODT's always this empty? I highly doubt it though.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 07 2012 14:00 GMT
#365
On August 07 2012 22:59 Telcontar wrote:
Maybe some BW fans are bitter, but I'll bet most have given SC2 a chance, at least in terms of spectating. Perhaps they just don't find it interesting or entertaining, even with their BW heroes playing it.


Or maybe it's just a qualification tournament and it's 11pm and tomorrow is a work day.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Skytt
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland333 Posts
August 07 2012 14:02 GMT
#366
On August 07 2012 22:59 Telcontar wrote:
Maybe some BW fans are bitter, but I'll bet most have given SC2 a chance, at least in terms of spectating. Perhaps they just don't find it interesting or entertaining, even with their BW heroes playing it.


There are interviews with the OSL casters where they say that a lot of the crowd care more about the players and less about the game, so with only one member of TBLS in this OSL that is surely contributing to low crowd numbers.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 07 2012 14:03 GMT
#367
On August 07 2012 23:00 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 22:59 Telcontar wrote:
Maybe some BW fans are bitter, but I'll bet most have given SC2 a chance, at least in terms of spectating. Perhaps they just don't find it interesting or entertaining, even with their BW heroes playing it.


Or maybe it's just a qualification tournament and it's 11pm and tomorrow is a work day.

It's the summer holidays. If fans wanted to be there, they would, since most are teens.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 07 2012 14:03 GMT
#368
i think everyone is over reacting a little bit. it is still very early days for OGN in sc2, people aren't really used to it yet, and there are so many sc2 tournaments on at the moment, but there was only one place to go for bw, thats why the crowd is so different.

i am sure with time things will even out alot more, with proleague finishing etc. i do expect some players to quit, maybe leave teams and join sc2 teams, mergers etc. the scene has to change quite a bit. Right now no one knows quite what to think.

especially since Kespa and non-kespa still are seperated most of the time, still very segmented.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 07 2012 14:03 GMT
#369
Also factor in that many fans may just be tired of Starcraft, and now when their BW is gone they have no reason to actually follow it anymore. I think this is why LoL blew up so hard in Korea tbh. A new game, a fresh new start, kinda. Also because everyone can play it, it's social if you play it with friends etc etc. RTS is kinda fading away, just like the more competitive FPS games.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2012 14:03 GMT
#370
i wonder if GOM will have kespa-specific code A spots for next season hrmm
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
August 07 2012 14:04 GMT
#371
Time for NesteaToss!!!
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
August 07 2012 14:04 GMT
#372
Looks like the favorites to win DRG, MC, and MKP. MVP isn't looking too good lately, and neither is Nestea. I don't see any of the Kespa players having a chance. Oz could be a surprise also.

I don't see the Kespa players being competitive as a whole for another 6+ months at least.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 14:06:05
August 07 2012 14:05 GMT
#373
On August 07 2012 23:00 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 22:56 Probe1 wrote:
On August 07 2012 22:55 silent_owl wrote:
Man, this OSL could make the players just want to outright retire. What is happening? At least the GSL is pulling crowds.

They are? I guess you can call 50 people a crowd but..


I know that the GSL pulls more than 50 during at least Finals series and special events.

I don't expect any of these tournaments to draw the crowds that BW used to pull or even that LOL is pulling now. Still, it depresses me that the BW fans wouldn't at least support the players. I mean, I'm not one to talk since I love SC2 but I know the players feel bad about the switch, they could use some support.

And to second the question, are ODT's always this empty? I highly doubt it though.

Well, GOM studio in Mok Dong only holds about 50 people. And during Code A the studio is frequently unfilled. Since this is just an extension to the prelims I guess I'm not surprised at all that it isn't filled. Come time for the actual tournament to begin I think there will be bigger crowds.

Edit: And ofc there are more than 50 people at the Finals. But that's not what we're discussing ^_^
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 07 2012 14:06 GMT
#374
On August 07 2012 23:03 opterown wrote:
i wonder if GOM will have kespa-specific code A spots for next season hrmm


It wouldn't surprise me if they invited a few Kespa players to the next GSL. I doubt they would do something like OSL with the split tournament till Ro16.
Liquipedia
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2012 14:06 GMT
#375
i heard "cannon rush" haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 07 2012 14:07 GMT
#376
On August 07 2012 23:04 Wegandi wrote:
Looks like the favorites to win DRG, MC, and MKP. MVP isn't looking too good lately, and neither is Nestea. I don't see any of the Kespa players having a chance. Oz could be a surprise also.

I don't see the Kespa players being competitive as a whole for another 6+ months at least.


MKP doesn't look that good lately too.
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 07 2012 14:07 GMT
#377
On August 07 2012 23:03 opterown wrote:
i wonder if GOM will have kespa-specific code A spots for next season hrmm


yeah i have been wondering the same thing, and although i do agree for now, given they have only been playing for a few months, Kespa players shouldnt be given unfair advantages all of the time. In future i hope they have to fight alongside everyone else for spots and in tournaments.
Skytt
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland333 Posts
August 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#378
On August 07 2012 23:04 Wegandi wrote:
Looks like the favorites to win DRG, MC, and MKP. MVP isn't looking too good lately, and neither is Nestea. I don't see any of the Kespa players having a chance. Oz could be a surprise also.

I don't see the Kespa players being competitive as a whole for another 6+ months at least.



MC winning the first OSL would be beautiful, same for MVP.

I don't think the Kespa players will take as long as 6 months to competitive, maybe to reach Code S/OSL winner levels, but I think they will start taking games from Code S players soon and we could see a few reach the next Code A. That's another benefit of the double elim format in the WCS for them.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#379
actually i wouldn't mind gom throwing a few kespa players into the up/downs maybe (2 ish) and maybe 2-4 spots for code A hrmm. we need sc2 fans to build an attachment to these new guys too, and for their fans to see them play sc2 and hopefully support them a bit more


On August 07 2012 23:07 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 23:04 Wegandi wrote:
Looks like the favorites to win DRG, MC, and MKP. MVP isn't looking too good lately, and neither is Nestea. I don't see any of the Kespa players having a chance. Oz could be a surprise also.

I don't see the Kespa players being competitive as a whole for another 6+ months at least.


MKP doesn't look that good lately too.

not world dominating shape like he was half a year ago, but still very good and topx terran for sure
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 14:11:31
August 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#380
On August 07 2012 23:03 opterown wrote:
i wonder if GOM will have kespa-specific code A spots for next season hrmm


I don't see the need for it. A couple of Kespa players made it through the WCS qualifiers and those were harder than the Code A qualifiers. While the Code A qualies are still brutal it's not quite the same degree as they used to be when half the best players were still outside the GSL, and you see several people who might not really be on that kind of level make it in off an easy draw the last few seasons.
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiG Sty Festival
12:00
PiGfest 8.0 Group C
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
PiGStarcraft1171
IntoTheiNu 930
TaKeTV 338
BRAT_OK 95
3DClanTV 63
LiquipediaDiscussion
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #148
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft1171
Serral 338
Rex 154
BRAT_OK 95
MindelVK 21
SHIN 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 65274
BeSt 851
Hyuk 720
firebathero 579
EffOrt 506
ZerO 427
Zeus 424
Rush 228
hero 211
Last 171
[ Show more ]
Leta 150
Mong 120
PianO 93
Sharp 63
ToSsGirL 58
[sc1f]eonzerg 51
Sexy 51
Free 47
Bonyth 39
HiyA 31
Bale 24
zelot 19
Rock 14
Noble 13
Sacsri 13
Icarus 8
Dota 2
The International42745
singsing5174
Dendi657
KheZu179
Counter-Strike
fl0m3572
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King113
Other Games
B2W.Neo674
Lowko432
Liquid`VortiX120
DeMusliM103
ArmadaUGS40
Trikslyr28
Chillindude21
KnowMe19
ZerO(Twitch)11
UpATreeSC0
Organizations
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 551
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HappyZerGling 42
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP7
• mYiSmile16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• Response 0
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1748
League of Legends
• Jankos1811
• Nemesis1098
Upcoming Events
IPSL
1h 53m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19h 53m
PiG Sty Festival
21h 53m
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
IPSL
1d 1h
OSC
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 19h
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
1d 20h
The Patches Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.