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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2012 14:30 GMT
#401
that would've been a hard loss =/
gratz to last though!
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 07 2012 14:30 GMT
#402
On August 07 2012 23:10 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 23:03 opterown wrote:
i wonder if GOM will have kespa-specific code A spots for next season hrmm


I don't see the need for it. A couple of Kespa players made it through the WCS qualifiers and those were harder than the Code A qualifiers. While the Code A qualies are still brutal it's not quite the same degree as they used to be when half the best players were still outside the GSL, and you see several people who might not really be on that kind of level make it in off an easy draw the last few seasons.


only 1 kespa-player made it through the WCS without getting a seed and thats reality.
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 07 2012 14:31 GMT
#403
On August 07 2012 23:24 Zer atai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 23:23 BlindKill wrote:
I think the Kespa teams are already commiting mostly to sc2 and scooting by with preexisting bw knowledge for BW component.


Tell that to Bisu


I think Bisu's issue is that his style of play doesn't translate as well to SC2 Protoss. Maybe he can try the HerO drop harass style but is definitely hard to pull off.
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
August 07 2012 14:31 GMT
#404
im a bit worried. those seats in the audience werent empty during the bw era were they?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 07 2012 14:31 GMT
#405
Poll: Who was the best player today OTHER than Flash

BaBy (8)
 
50%

BeSt (4)
 
25%

Last (4)
 
25%

16 total votes

Your vote: Who was the best player today OTHER than Flash

(Vote): BeSt
(Vote): BaBy
(Vote): Last

우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
August 07 2012 14:31 GMT
#406
Last made this seem too easy. It makes me believe that ryul did some grave mistakes...
Raygun
Profile Joined August 2010
348 Posts
August 07 2012 14:32 GMT
#407
Most of the Kespa Zergs seem to die really easily in early game, at least from the games that I've seen.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 07 2012 14:33 GMT
#408
On August 07 2012 23:31 ggrrg wrote:
Last made this seem too easy. It makes me believe that ryul did some grave mistakes...


Ryul thought the pressure was over and stopped producing units.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 07 2012 14:33 GMT
#409
On August 07 2012 23:31 whoso wrote:
im a bit worried. those seats in the audience werent empty during the bw era were they?


It's not the main tournament and almost midnight in Korea.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 07 2012 14:34 GMT
#410
BaBy was the only player to survive being in the Player 2 slot.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 14:40:32
August 07 2012 14:34 GMT
#411
soo, how does group selection work? what i've read sounds kinda complicated o.O especially with only 2 seeds this time?

edit: ah nvm, MSL is the complicated one haha
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
August 07 2012 14:36 GMT
#412
On August 07 2012 23:30 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 23:10 Asha` wrote:
On August 07 2012 23:03 opterown wrote:
i wonder if GOM will have kespa-specific code A spots for next season hrmm


I don't see the need for it. A couple of Kespa players made it through the WCS qualifiers and those were harder than the Code A qualifiers. While the Code A qualies are still brutal it's not quite the same degree as they used to be when half the best players were still outside the GSL, and you see several people who might not really be on that kind of level make it in off an easy draw the last few seasons.


only 1 kespa-player made it through the WCS without getting a seed and thats reality.


Most of the Kespa players lost to players who were either in code S or Code A so i am possitive that a decent number of Kespa players will make it .
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 07 2012 14:36 GMT
#413
On August 07 2012 23:32 Raygun wrote:
Most of the Kespa Zergs seem to die really easily in early game, at least from the games that I've seen.


I think because you need a really good understanding as a zerg as to when to produce units and when to produce drones or tech. Your choice is really dependent on your opponent's actions. Whereas for terran/protoss, there are standard openings which you can basically follow that gets you to 2 base saturation and a decent size army. You might be slightly behind in macro since you didn't cut corners but you won't die outright to pushes.
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
August 07 2012 14:36 GMT
#414
Whenever flash plays a GSL player I'm 90% sure he'll get cheesed
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 07 2012 14:37 GMT
#415
Well that's what happens when you open 14cc every game lol.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 07 2012 14:38 GMT
#416
On August 07 2012 23:36 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Whenever flash plays a GSL player I'm 90% sure he'll get cheesed


I am not sure if he will get cheesed but he will likely die to some aggressive pushes because he plays really greedy right now.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 07 2012 14:39 GMT
#417
What day is the group selection ceremony? I haven't been able to watch in case they mentioned on the stream
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 07 2012 14:40 GMT
#418
On August 07 2012 23:38 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 23:36 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Whenever flash plays a GSL player I'm 90% sure he'll get cheesed


I am not sure if he will get cheesed but he will likely die to some aggressive pushes because he plays really greedy right now.


I think that's smart for him at current stage. His advantage is mechanism in micro/macro, so he is better equipped to handle those high risk situations, however with current understanding and game decision it is not ideal for him to enter long term even games with GSL players.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2012 14:40 GMT
#419
On August 07 2012 23:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What day is the group selection ceremony? I haven't been able to watch in case they mentioned on the stream

next tuesday i believe!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Mlex
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada324 Posts
August 07 2012 14:41 GMT
#420
As long as he can pull off a MarineKing (14cc > 6pool), he'll be fine. =P
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber." | MVP: the Royal Roadblock, the King.
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