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Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#441
Oh wow xD
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#442
Bischu pack your shit together and proxy 2gates the next one.
Zest fanboy.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#443
On August 06 2012 03:52 _Puppies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 03:35 -_- wrote:
On August 06 2012 03:28 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Liquid getting too much credit for Taeja's success. He was already reached Code S before he left SlayerS.


Honestly, I don't give any foreign team much credit for a player's success. Unless you're scheduling practice partners, outlining a practice schedule, creating the team environment with a house, creating strategies as a coach, and things of that nature, the player himself is primarily responsible for his losses and wins.

Now TL and EG do some of these things to some extent. I've heard about TL reviewing opponent's replays for tendencies. EG has a training house. But they don't as much as Korean teams (and even then, for example, MC has shown his success wasn't because of OGS).


Taeja was Code S, but I think you give too little credit to the foreign teams. True, they don't and can't micromanage the players or their practice schedule, I'm sure that foreign teams offer much more than you give them credit for. For example, players that don't enjoy the team environment, such as Zenio, as given the opportunity and freedom to practice how they like it. And although Zenio hasn't shown many results lately, being on a foreign team means he is supported until he does. Taeja's success in foreign tournaments should have Liquid credit on it as well. Slayers did not send Taeja to many foreign tournaments now did they? Should Slayer's get the result for Taeja's all kill in GSTL if Liquid does not because rumor has it that Taeja did not live the team house. Team Liquid provides financial support, as well as stability that I'm sure Taeja has benefited from. Similarly, the increased popularity that players receive simply because they are on a team means that their personal value skyrockets.

tldr: Team Liquid deserves credit.


You're right. Sending a player to a bunch of different event is a great opportunity. A huge number of Code A players could win tournaments if they were given the chance. I can't downplay that. The freedom and stability you mention are important too.

I just give Taeja more credit than most for his wins, and TL.net a little less. I do the same for Korean Teams and players as well, but I give the teams a little more credit because I don't think you can deny they do a little more for their players in most cases (Taeja's actually might be different if the rumor you mentioned is true).

Don't get me wrong, though, I think TL.net handles their players well.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#444
LOL
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#445
lol taeja
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#446
Wow, really disappointing game from Taeja.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#447
upset alert! dont lose TaeJa!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#448
Wait what is happening?

Bischu might beat Taeja?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#449
lol wow


if Bischu wins this...
GuardianEU
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands488 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#450
whahahahaha oh damn that's hilarious xD
Standard.
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3686 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#451
Is Bischu gonna take this series? O_O
Roybs
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands500 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#452
what
Kikiwoelmuis <3
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#453
On August 06 2012 04:03 HaXXspetten wrote:
wait... are we seeing... a macro game?


nope
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Gool
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina204 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#454
BISCHU, BISCHU, BISCHU!!!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#455
BISCHU CHEESING BACK!!
Broodwar for life!
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 19:08:02
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#456
--- Nuked ---
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#457
HAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK :D
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#458
GO BISCHU!!!
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#459
oh god.. i want to see taeja in this tournament, dont let this happen
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
August 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#460
TaeJa about to lose. WOW
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