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soupchicken
United States322 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:35 Artok wrote: well, i really dislike watching zvz, thats why i excluded mirrors, but i guess even zvzs are more intense ;D ZvZs are getting really good. Watch some of the latest GSTL matches. | ||
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InfectedGoat
Canada444 Posts
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:35 bsball8806 wrote: There's a lot wrong with ZvP design wise, but this game didn't really show it. It was a pretty typical 2base blink all-in that's been around for a year. Nothing new to see. [/QUOTE] Other than the fact that the super lategame ZvP is broken (the whole mothership cross your fingers and hope you hit a good vortex thing), ZvP seems pretty reasonable right now Is that what you were referring to?[/QUOTE] I just don't like the way macro plays out in the matchup. Since this is an LR thread, I'll keep my balance opinions to myself, but in a nutshell, I only have a problem with macro games, not so much 2base builds. | ||
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:36 4ZakeN87 wrote: That was actually a bit crazy. Not sure what Stephano could have done, I guess borrow would have been an solution but not sure how long time that takes. Like with the tech and resources he had available I am not sure that Stephano could have done much better. Early ling speed, intercept the sentries while they're moving across the map. | ||
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cekkmt
United States352 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:35 Hassybaby wrote: Dragoons can't walk down ramps, stalkers can So very very true | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:35 Fragile51 wrote: ...No words. You pick the best designed unit protoss has to show that it is badly designed and then say that the dragoon of all units is better? Well personaly i always miss the rain dance the dragons could do some times | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:36 4ZakeN87 wrote: That was actually a bit crazy. Not sure what Stephano could have done, I guess borrow would have been an solution but not sure how long time that takes. Like with the tech and resources he had available I am not sure that Stephano could have done much better. Well his macro in the early game was a bit off, and it hit him like a train when it most mattered. | ||
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Kpaxlol
813 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:35 Fragile51 wrote: ...No words. You pick the best designed unit protoss has to show that it is badly designed and then say that the dragoon of all units is better? Resurrected DTs should have some sort of goo when they die too just like dragoons and immortals | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
he's right though, ZvP has been so bad for a long time now, either toss wins with 2 base all in or it comes down to whether they can get a vortex off or if the Z can pick of MS | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:37 ragnorr wrote: Well personaly i always miss the rain dance the dragons could do some times Oh, well yeah. Apart from that :p | ||
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
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MuseMike
United States1339 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:31 HowardRoark wrote: And Browder used to talk about that you should not be able to just mass one unit i WoL, but all I saw was Stalkers. Sentries? Zealot warp ins? Did you watch the same game? Stephano is famous for maxing on roaches by the way. You guys can't be serious. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:37 Shellshock1122 wrote: Resurrected DTs should have some sort of goo when they die too just like dragoons and immortals The do have goo, but it's invisible so | ||
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Taug
United States146 Posts
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:36 sibs wrote: Thats funny, maybe you're a different Shiori? You're the one with the bible posts crying so hard about how Protoss can't win, how the match-up UTTERLY favors Zerg, how Protoss can't put pressure early game (which was proven wrong in the 1 game stephano took from Oz) , how stephano is terrible and HerO and MC are so much better etc etc etc ad nauseam. Balance discussion isn't for LR threads. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:37 mememolly wrote: he's right though, ZvP has been so bad for a long time now, either toss wins with 2 base all in or it comes down to whether they can get a vortex off or if the Z can pick of MS Did you even watch Oz vs Stephano yesterday? ZvP is bad sometimes. It also has the potential to be amazing. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On July 23 2012 01:37 Champloo wrote: So much downtime between games compared to WCS Russia... It was like 3-4 minutes. Wtf? | ||
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