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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
July 14 2012 16:59 GMT
#1261
On July 15 2012 01:58 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:58 Blaec wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:57 yeint wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:56 Ambre wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:55 BlindKill wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:52 Disengaged wrote:
Sigh. . . . frodan . . . .

Apparently, frodan thinks if you click on a zealot you can see if charge is almost done or not

/facepalm


I think he meant if Puma clicked on the zealot he would see that charge isnt finished cause charge adds passive movespeed for zealots


Boom, 95% people on this thread feels dumb !


How the fuck does CLICKING on a zealot improve your appraisal of how fast it's moving?


Mouseover its armor and it gives movement speed


And this tells you that "charge is about to finish" how?


It doesn't. I dunno what Frodan was talking about. But clicking on a zealot can give you information about how fast it can move.
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
July 14 2012 16:59 GMT
#1262
On July 15 2012 01:57 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:56 Reaps wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:55 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Hmm... how could Puma win that?


Kill him before storm is done:d


Get ghosts earlier, do some drops, actively punish that super early 3rd base or take a super early 3rd himself.

His 3rd was later, his Ghost tech to counter Templar was later, his pushes killed hardly anything.


As soon as he saw the greedy third from MC he started a 3rd command center. He didn't do anything particularly wrong in that game.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 17:00:55
July 14 2012 17:00 GMT
#1263
Hell yeah, MC's game still right-on. Somehow able to watch this on my 1 Mbps connection @__@

360p gogo, MC HWAITING!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 14 2012 17:00 GMT
#1264
On July 15 2012 01:59 Toadvine wrote:
I think having Templar inside a Prism is way too risky if you don't have speed. Can't outrun stimmed marines in open space.

You can bait into win though

God that was such a boss move
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
July 14 2012 17:00 GMT
#1265
On July 15 2012 01:55 nojok wrote:
Do you think this warp prism play was intentional? Bait opponent, click drop on warp prism, & blanket the chasing army.

I think so. You could tell he was trying to get the flank storms from the beginning. When he couldn't get them going up the ramp he backed off, but kept the same orientation with his army and warp prism. If Puma would have gone for the army MC could have come from behind with storm drops. But he went for the prism, which meant he could move in from the front with his army vs. a weakened Terran army from storm.
$♥$
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
July 14 2012 17:00 GMT
#1266
On July 15 2012 01:58 NeonFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:56 Ambre wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:55 BlindKill wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:52 Disengaged wrote:
Sigh. . . . frodan . . . .

Apparently, frodan thinks if you click on a zealot you can see if charge is almost done or not

/facepalm


I think he meant if Puma clicked on the zealot he would see that charge isnt finished cause charge adds passive movespeed for zealots


Boom, 95% people on this thread feels dumb !


Why would them, he said "I think Puma clicked on that zealot and saw that charge was almost finished" when he backed off. There is no progression bar of charge on a zealot.

And even if he did click and saw no charge, then it wouldn't be a reason to back off since he didn't have charge yet.

QFT

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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
July 14 2012 17:00 GMT
#1267
nice music, does someone know the song during the break?
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1268
On July 15 2012 02:00 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:59 Toadvine wrote:
I think having Templar inside a Prism is way too risky if you don't have speed. Can't outrun stimmed marines in open space.

You can bait into win though

God that was such a boss move


I think it's just risky how MC was doing it. It's safer to have it behind ur army than having it fly over land in the open.
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1269
I think Puma goes no gas fast expand too much. I remember MC saying terran is alot easier when they do that every single game.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1270
On July 15 2012 01:57 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:56 Ambre wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:55 BlindKill wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:52 Disengaged wrote:
Sigh. . . . frodan . . . .

Apparently, frodan thinks if you click on a zealot you can see if charge is almost done or not

/facepalm


I think he meant if Puma clicked on the zealot he would see that charge isnt finished cause charge adds passive movespeed for zealots


Boom, 95% people on this thread feels dumb !


How the fuck does CLICKING on a zealot improve your appraisal of how fast it's moving?


In the armor box it has move speed, when charge is complete it turns yellow because it's upgraded.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1271
For everyone complaining about the shouting, did any of you actually watch koreans cast? It's like one of the coolest things about SC.

Though I can understand that some people prefer to watch SC as if it would be golf.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Night Eyes
Profile Joined January 2011
433 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1272
On July 15 2012 01:57 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:57 Night Eyes wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:55 BlindKill wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:52 Disengaged wrote:
Sigh. . . . frodan . . . .

Apparently, frodan thinks if you click on a zealot you can see if charge is almost done or not

/facepalm


I think he meant if Puma clicked on the zealot he would see that charge isnt finished cause charge adds passive movespeed for zealots


No matter what he meant (and I think it was a facepalm moment too) its not something that should happen at an event of this size.


People will complain about anything.

He said something that is not right, it might confuse people who don't know better and makes the players look like something they are not, I'm not saying anything about Gretorp mixing up at the end of the game but that was flat out wrong.
excellent!
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1273
On July 14 2012 18:23 emis wrote:
Heart says Stephano, brain says HerO.

I'm sadly thinking the same.
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1274
On July 15 2012 01:59 EnderCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:57 KonohaFlash wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:55 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Hmm... how could Puma win that?

Chasing the warprism with his marines not all his army

Puma had what I call the deer in the headlights effect. He saw the warp prism and new the storms were inevitable but didn't react fast enough to dodge the storms or snipe the warp prism.


yeah i thought he went after HT lil too much.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8307 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1275
On July 15 2012 01:57 Mouzone wrote:
What's the link to the 2nd stream?


Three streams:

http://www.twitch.tv/CStarLeague
http://www.twitch.tv/nasltv?utm_campaign=live_embed_click&utm_source=www.nasl.tv
http://www.twitch.tv/nasls3

Rumor has it there's a french stream as well somewhere lol that is getting ZERO exposure.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1276
On July 15 2012 01:59 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:58 yeint wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:58 Blaec wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:57 yeint wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:56 Ambre wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:55 BlindKill wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:52 Disengaged wrote:
Sigh. . . . frodan . . . .

Apparently, frodan thinks if you click on a zealot you can see if charge is almost done or not

/facepalm


I think he meant if Puma clicked on the zealot he would see that charge isnt finished cause charge adds passive movespeed for zealots


Boom, 95% people on this thread feels dumb !


How the fuck does CLICKING on a zealot improve your appraisal of how fast it's moving?


Mouseover its armor and it gives movement speed


And this tells you that "charge is about to finish" how?

Not whether its about to finish, but it does tell whether it finished or not.


He made a fucking mistake in his wording, get over it and give him a break.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
July 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1277
On July 15 2012 01:59 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:58 yeint wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:58 Blaec wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:57 yeint wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:56 Ambre wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:55 BlindKill wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:52 Disengaged wrote:
Sigh. . . . frodan . . . .

Apparently, frodan thinks if you click on a zealot you can see if charge is almost done or not

/facepalm


I think he meant if Puma clicked on the zealot he would see that charge isnt finished cause charge adds passive movespeed for zealots


Boom, 95% people on this thread feels dumb !


How the fuck does CLICKING on a zealot improve your appraisal of how fast it's moving?


Mouseover its armor and it gives movement speed


And this tells you that "charge is about to finish" how?


It doesn't. I dunno what Frodan was talking about. But clicking on a zealot can give you information about how fast it can move.


charge increases zeal movement speed in addition to adding charge.

i don't know if frodan is right tho. never checked.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 14 2012 17:02 GMT
#1278
wonder if we'll see a blink/obs all in in this series
hoop1
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain242 Posts
July 14 2012 17:02 GMT
#1279
bad casters, bad sound since season1 not worth my time
defilerCHAN
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 14 2012 17:02 GMT
#1280
On July 15 2012 01:59 QuanticTheognis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:57 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:56 Reaps wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:55 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Hmm... how could Puma win that?


Kill him before storm is done:d


Get ghosts earlier, do some drops, actively punish that super early 3rd base or take a super early 3rd himself.

His 3rd was later, his Ghost tech to counter Templar was later, his pushes killed hardly anything.


His third was as soon as possible after scouting it. He opened a 4 barracks and got the CC asap. I don't know how much faster he could have possibly gotten it without just purely blind countering it. If you go 3 rax into medivac, even that comes WAY later than what PuMa did.


Well, that's kind of what I mean. If you see your opponent is doing something, it's normally a bad idea to try to do the same thing yourself but later, is it not?

Either he should have just gone for a really fast 3rd in his BO from the beginning, or he should have tried to punish it more efficiently in my opinion. As it was, it felt like he was that guy who plays black in chess and just copies his opponents' moves.

What do you think he should have done?
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