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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
July 12 2012 13:04 GMT
#4581
DRG beats Naniwa. Not a surprise i guess.
Naniwa caught DRG off-guard with his so called 1 gate into nexus into 4 gate pressure.Took game 1.
Game 2: Naniwa goes void-ray 7 gate all-in gets defended and gg
Game3: Try to do the same thing with Game 1 but not so successful and transition into immortals archon /mass zealots with +2/+1 to hit before Bls are out but DRG defended it well with spines/infestor/roach/lings and tech to Bls and Naniwa did not have enough.
Game 4: DRG should have had this in the bag had he just teched straight to infestor instead of wasting 1400/1400 into mutas which did absolutely nothing.But nevertheless WP by Naniwa to break into the spine wall and beat DRG with immortal/mass blink stalker in Game 4.
Game 5: Same with Game 1 but this time DRG adapted it well and countered it with a 3rd base. Naniwa then went 7-8 gates stalker sentry all-in on the third and managed to kill it and retaining his army.Really good trade.
But DRG sneak a hidden 4th base and Naniwa got his third. Mass blink stalkers/immortal/sentry all-in on 3 bases and managed to kill a lot of DRG army but losing all 5 immortals but still retaining stalker count.
DRG caught warp prism and killed it before reaching his hidden 5th base.15 infestors for DRG and massive engagement in the middle.Naniwa aggressive blink forward and fungles cause him to lose all his stalkers and DRG proceed to get ultras and stomp the remaining immortal and sentries.GG

Gratz to DRG.Naniwa did leveled up his ZvP for this series but i feel that he should really change up his style a little bit instead of always going 1 gate expand.DRG caught onto it and adapted well and won the series overall the better player.


Play your best
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
July 12 2012 13:04 GMT
#4582
On July 12 2012 22:02 GhostyGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 22:00 Gevna wrote:
So from a good day of gsl and a great showing by naniwa and DRG we come to an idiotic discussion about patriotism and a web psychoanalysis about naniwa social skills.

Ok :-/


Lack of social skills really

What did he just say?
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#4583
On July 12 2012 22:04 FakeDeath wrote:
DRG beats Naniwa. Not a surprise i guess.
Naniwa caught DRG off-guard with his so called 1 gate into nexus into 4 gate pressure.Took game 1.
Game 2: Naniwa goes void-ray 7 gate all-in gets defended and gg
Game3: Try to do the same thing with Game 1 but not so successful and transition into immortals archon /mass zealots with +2/+1 to hit before Bls are out but DRG defended it well with spines/infestor/roach/lings and tech to Bls and Naniwa did not have enough.
Game 4: DRG should have had this in the bag had he just teched straight to infestor instead of wasting 1400/1400 into mutas which did absolutely nothing.But nevertheless WP by Naniwa to break into the spine wall and beat DRG with immortal/mass blink stalker in Game 4.
Game 5: Same with Game 1 but this time DRG adapted it well and countered it with a 3rd base. Naniwa then went 7-8 gates stalker sentry all-in on the third and managed to kill it and retaining his army.Really good trade.
But DRG sneak a hidden 4th base and Naniwa got his third. Mass blink stalkers/immortal/sentry all-in on 3 bases and managed to kill a lot of DRG army but losing all 5 immortals but still retaining stalker count.
DRG caught warp prism and killed it before reaching his hidden 5th base.15 infestors for DRG and massive engagement in the middle.Naniwa aggressive blink forward and fungles cause him to lose all his stalkers and DRG proceed to get ultras and stomp the remaining immortal and sentries.GG

Gratz to DRG.Naniwa did leveled up his ZvP for this series but i feel that he should really change up his style a little bit instead of always going 1 gate expand.DRG caught onto it and adapted well and won the series overall the better player.




This post should replace the whole 30 previous pages in this thread.
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nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
July 12 2012 13:07 GMT
#4584
On July 12 2012 21:58 disinfect wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:55 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:54 disinfect wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:51 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win.


Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all.


I'm Italian...why would I want a Swede to win? Your analogy makes no sense. Should I root for Cloud to win the GSL then?


The only rule is to always root for the foreigner!

Koreans are foreigners unless you live in Korea


Eh, no, not in the world of starcraft.


Was rooting very hard for Naniwa! . There's always next season i guess, hoping he can at least make the semis!
GeorgeH
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom190 Posts
July 12 2012 13:08 GMT
#4585
On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win.


Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all.


That's funny actually because I was in Germany when the World Cup was on in 2010 and was so butthurt after their match with England I was cheering for Spain to beat them in the next round (sorry Germans ;D)
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 12 2012 13:09 GMT
#4586
People seem angry... What did naniwa do wrong this time? Or is it just less satisfying hating on someone who has clearly become a top tier GSL competitor?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 13:25:33
July 12 2012 13:15 GMT
#4587
On July 12 2012 22:09 hifriend wrote:
People seem angry... What did naniwa do wrong this time? Or is it just less satisfying hating on someone who has clearly become a top tier GSL competitor?


He didn't lose hard enough so haters can bash him for being lucky to get that deep in the GSL...
LiquipediaWanderer
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
July 12 2012 13:15 GMT
#4588
On July 12 2012 22:09 hifriend wrote:
People seem angry... What did naniwa do wrong this time? Or is it just less satisfying hating on someone who has clearly become a top tier GSL competitor?


It has become increasingly harder to hate on Nani for his skill, so the bashing has degraded to personal attacks.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 13:16:30
July 12 2012 13:15 GMT
#4589
EDIT : double post
LiquipediaWanderer
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 13:17:04
July 12 2012 13:15 GMT
#4590
EDIT : Triple post, WTF Firefox...
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 12 2012 13:17 GMT
#4591
On July 12 2012 21:59 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:59 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:58 -TesteR- wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:52 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:51 -TesteR- wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:48 Evangelist wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:46 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:45 Evangelist wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:44 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:43 Evangelist wrote:
[quote]

Naniwa is making Ro8 Code S twice in a row and will be in Code S next season too. I'm not even a fan of Naniwa but you can't deny that the guy has balls of steel and is easily one of the best protoss in the world. Idra isn't even the best US zerg these days.

God knows why the guy has so many fans. It's like being a fan of Titus Bramble ffs.

ive never said Naniwa wasnt a good starcaft player all i said was hes a terrible human being


Yeah man. Being socially awkward and a bit BM makes you a terrible human being. Get some perspective. There are people out there who order the deaths of thousands of people just for the sake of a few feet of land or have peoples hands cut off for stealing apples.

They are terrible human beings. Naniwa is just rude.

a "bit" bm is an understatement, he went into IdrAs fanclub to talk shit about IdrA and there are tons of storys from teams hes been on and palyers hes met that all say hes extremely BM


So what. It's IdrA. It's one grade A dickhead mouthing off about another grade A dickhead. Who cares? Only reason IdrA fans feel butthurt about Naniwa is because Naniwa is a Code S level player who is quite rightly telling IdrA where to stick his opinions.


IdrA too busy calling out Naniwa, then dodging their showmatch. Idralings are upset

Nani dodged more then IdrA, IdrA was ready to play right as Nani called him out but Naniwa waited until IdrA was busy with tournaments to all of a sudden find time to play

plus IdrA said in an interview that the showmatch was either going to happen immediately or sometime this summer so he hasnt dodged yet


Sorry, IdrA been dodging since day 1. Even cried to JP about how Nani was tweeting at him to set it up. But of course Idra has time go on JP's talk show but not play Nani in the showmatch, seems legit.

Naniwa challenges IdrA to play in showmatch then refuses to paly for a couple months, seems legit


Sauce?

inside the game Ep40 starting at 20 minutes in
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
July 12 2012 13:18 GMT
#4592
On July 12 2012 19:48 KiNGxXx wrote:
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The bonjwa of posters. Holy ****, that is amazing.


Byun is so amazing ^^. Gogo Terran!!!
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
M7Jagger
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden237 Posts
July 12 2012 13:40 GMT
#4593
On July 12 2012 21:45 legaton wrote:
Sweden-based posters reminds me of english fans after a defeat of their national squad at football. Too many "if" in all their posts.

About the best foreigner title, i have a question. What builds were created by Naniwa? I only remember the 3 stalker opening in PvP, but i'm not even sure if he invented it. Naniwa seems to be excellent at executing build orders, but he doesn't seem as creative as MC (how many two bases all-in has he invented?) or Stephano in the foreign scene (he literally changed the entire way you play PvZ with his 200/200 max roach army in the 11 minute, and he reintroduced ultras in standard zerg play).


But what does changing the way you play a game has to do with how good you are? The only thing that matters is how good you perform and Naniwa is by far the best foreigner right now, you can't even compare Stephano to Naniwa. Stephano will be in Code S next season (right?) and i'm sure he will get crushed, his play is so predictable that everyone will just prepare for it and stop it. Mark my words.
Brace your're selves. Grammar, nazis are Coming
NVRLand
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden203 Posts
July 12 2012 13:41 GMT
#4594
Naniwa is so awesome. Having pvz as his weakest match up and zvp being DRGs best matchup it's quite insane that he managed to take two games of DRG.

I really hope to see Naniwa enter som foreign tournaments. I understand that he wants to win GSL so badly but I'd like to see him more often!
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
July 12 2012 13:45 GMT
#4595
On July 12 2012 22:04 FakeDeath wrote:
Gratz to DRG.Naniwa did leveled up his ZvP for this series but i feel that he should really change up his style a little bit instead of always going 1 gate expand.DRG caught onto it and adapted well and won the series overall the better player.


Every other Protoss does FFE EVERY PvZ. Should they change up a bit too?
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 12 2012 13:45 GMT
#4596
On July 12 2012 22:40 M7Jagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:45 legaton wrote:
Sweden-based posters reminds me of english fans after a defeat of their national squad at football. Too many "if" in all their posts.

About the best foreigner title, i have a question. What builds were created by Naniwa? I only remember the 3 stalker opening in PvP, but i'm not even sure if he invented it. Naniwa seems to be excellent at executing build orders, but he doesn't seem as creative as MC (how many two bases all-in has he invented?) or Stephano in the foreign scene (he literally changed the entire way you play PvZ with his 200/200 max roach army in the 11 minute, and he reintroduced ultras in standard zerg play).


But what does changing the way you play a game has to do with how good you are? The only thing that matters is how good you perform and Naniwa is by far the best foreigner right now, you can't even compare Stephano to Naniwa. Stephano will be in Code S next season (right?) and i'm sure he will get crushed, his play is so predictable that everyone will just prepare for it and stop it. Mark my words.

*checks nationality*
*is not surprised*
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
July 12 2012 13:45 GMT
#4597
On July 12 2012 22:03 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
On July 12 2012 22:01 Belisarius wrote:
I missed the games, I'm surprised and kinda proud of nani to have given DRG a real fight. He really looks like he belongs up the top of Code S, these days.

Way too much drama in the LR. Did he do anything, or are people just being stupid?

people are being stupid


they are not just stupid - they are incredible idiots, i can't read it any more ;P


Just curious, what's the difference between being stupid and being incredible idiots? I guess you meant that the latter are somehow further down the scale of stupid, yet incredible idiots also has includes autists, people with problems but who have incredible powers. The idiot savants. The question remains, what are they savants of? I'd say at annoying people and I present PMS (you insensitive bastard) as evidence for my claim.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Mayd
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland251 Posts
July 12 2012 13:46 GMT
#4598
I don't understand why should we cheer for a douchebag just because he is a foreigner.
유리 | 티파니 | 리지
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
July 12 2012 13:47 GMT
#4599
On July 12 2012 22:45 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 22:40 M7Jagger wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:45 legaton wrote:
Sweden-based posters reminds me of english fans after a defeat of their national squad at football. Too many "if" in all their posts.

About the best foreigner title, i have a question. What builds were created by Naniwa? I only remember the 3 stalker opening in PvP, but i'm not even sure if he invented it. Naniwa seems to be excellent at executing build orders, but he doesn't seem as creative as MC (how many two bases all-in has he invented?) or Stephano in the foreign scene (he literally changed the entire way you play PvZ with his 200/200 max roach army in the 11 minute, and he reintroduced ultras in standard zerg play).


But what does changing the way you play a game has to do with how good you are? The only thing that matters is how good you perform and Naniwa is by far the best foreigner right now, you can't even compare Stephano to Naniwa. Stephano will be in Code S next season (right?) and i'm sure he will get crushed, his play is so predictable that everyone will just prepare for it and stop it. Mark my words.

*checks nationality*
*is not surprised*


good method to avoid arguments

I DONT DEAL WITH NO SWEDES!!
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 12 2012 13:48 GMT
#4600
On July 12 2012 22:47 schaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 22:45 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 22:40 M7Jagger wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:45 legaton wrote:
Sweden-based posters reminds me of english fans after a defeat of their national squad at football. Too many "if" in all their posts.

About the best foreigner title, i have a question. What builds were created by Naniwa? I only remember the 3 stalker opening in PvP, but i'm not even sure if he invented it. Naniwa seems to be excellent at executing build orders, but he doesn't seem as creative as MC (how many two bases all-in has he invented?) or Stephano in the foreign scene (he literally changed the entire way you play PvZ with his 200/200 max roach army in the 11 minute, and he reintroduced ultras in standard zerg play).


But what does changing the way you play a game has to do with how good you are? The only thing that matters is how good you perform and Naniwa is by far the best foreigner right now, you can't even compare Stephano to Naniwa. Stephano will be in Code S next season (right?) and i'm sure he will get crushed, his play is so predictable that everyone will just prepare for it and stop it. Mark my words.

*checks nationality*
*is not surprised*


good method to avoid arguments

I DONT DEAL WITH NO SWEDES!!

i was reffering more that its not surprising someone from Sweden is so heavily biased towards Naniwa
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