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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 08 2012 17:09 GMT
#1701
On July 09 2012 02:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:02 mordk wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:57 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:52 -y0shi- wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:47 najreteip wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:46 farvacola wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:43 Kreb wrote:
As Incontrol said, that was in convincing fashion. He has showed he can handle robo play, stargate play, gateway allins. And he has has played with roaches, ling/infestor, muta. Very impressive.

Meh, the only thing this series should convince anyone of is that MC has his down days. He played too poorly for this to reflect too greatly on Nerchio, although his reactions to MC's mistakes were certainly proficient.

Oh great here we go again
foreigner beats a top korean, korean played poorly

stop that bs please


So youre saying he didnt? Mc lost with some pretty silly allins and barely won after holding an 8 pool while taking no damage.
He didnt play well, I dont see how one can even argue this..

Im still confused by MCs play, is he so afraid of playing macro against zergs?

And yeah, nerchio played that well but the last game was a buildorder win which is always lucky to some degree, why cant some people just accept this?

Lets see how Yongwa does :/


Dude, MC has always played like this. It works most of the time but when it doesn't people call it "horrible play" but when it does everybody's like "MC is the best protoss!!!! yadayadayada!".

No, you're getting slightly confused. If you watch MC play regularly you could see his play today wasn't his top form. He made bad decisions, he went for a base trade in the last game without a probe outside his base, he spent the minerals he needed to make a pylon outside. You can nitpick many other examples, even his forcefields didn't look as good as usual. While it's true MC goes for 2-base allins a lot vs zerg, he's usually better at decision making which is what normally wins him games, alongside his micro.

Basically, you can play 2-base allins well, or you can play badly, using the same build, and you get extremely different results, this is an example of the latter.

This obviously doesn't mean Nerchio didn't play well, he did very nicely and got the job done, defending appropriately and responded well without overextending.

People think saying a player didn't play his best is some sort of insult to the winner. Of course it isn't, if the winner had played bad he might have lost despite of his opponents mistakes. Nerchio played excellent that series. One doesn't exclude the other.


First you say that I am getting slightly confused and then you move onto agreeing with post, wtf?

No, he's saying his play wasn't bad, it was just his regular play because he always 2-base allins. I'm saying he does allin a lot, but that doesn't mean he was up to his normal level, he was playing his normal builds, but in a sub-par performance.

As in, it actually was "horrible play", despite the build he used.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 08 2012 17:10 GMT
#1702
By the way, quick sanity check: Is it a normal experience that you want at least half the people posting in this thread to be permanently banned from the internet or is that just me?
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
July 08 2012 17:10 GMT
#1703
On July 09 2012 02:08 Shiori wrote:
Maybe Blizzard will realize that PvZ needs attention if Nerchio rolls Yonghwa....

Hmm...who to cheer for?

HerO 3-0 DRG IPL, stop whining.
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
July 08 2012 17:10 GMT
#1704
On July 09 2012 02:05 HGurryp wrote:
omg golden winning? oh wait he is zerg, whata a surprise one zerg winning.


this is already your 3rd post (if i didnt miss one) saying that, i wonder, at what number does it get boring? 5? 10? or is it already?
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
July 08 2012 17:10 GMT
#1705
On July 09 2012 02:06 Terminal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:01 samurai80 wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:46 Funkydonky wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:45 samurai80 wrote:
I liked the way Nerchio won that, pretty convincing, but him smiling like this after winning. It looks bm to me. Maybe I'm the only one but that's my impression.

People like you should go out, and stop watching SC2.

What ? Just because I say I'm not really fond of someone's smile ?? I like Nerchio man, nothing against him. I just said that this smile was so much like him making fun of his opponent. Trolling and provocation is really normal, but you have to do it in a certain way, in front of your opponent and not like this, smiling alone as if you were making fun of your opponent. Now maybe I'm thinking too much, but I know asian people (I'm not but I've lived in Japan for 8 years) actually really really care about that. You can make fun, troll and provoke your opponent, but there is a way to do it. Showing respect is the most important thing.
So now it's ok, it's HSC, everyone is having fun and Nerchio certainly did (EDIT: I meant did not) do that on purpose, but still I have the right to give my opinion and say I didn't really liked his smile at that moment.

Is this a joke?

Do people like you really exist? o_o

Sorry but I don't get where is your surprise coming from.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 08 2012 17:10 GMT
#1706
On July 09 2012 02:09 GregMandel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:07 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 09 2012 02:06 GregMandel wrote:
On July 09 2012 02:05 polyphonyEX wrote:
this lr just went full retard. I might stop watching all non-GSL tournaments from now on.

Oh thats right, because there is no shitstorm on GSL lr's right ? riiiiiiiight ? :p

It's the best the starcraft community has to offer. Not saying much, but ...

I dont want to be offensive or anything but after lurking on the HSC LR for 4 days, i saw most of your post and I wouldnt think that you wanted the best this community has to offer with your attitude ( you bm sry )

Poly is an extremely biased and bm troll on these forums. Just ignore his ignorant statements.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 08 2012 17:10 GMT
#1707
On July 09 2012 02:10 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:08 Shiori wrote:
Maybe Blizzard will realize that PvZ needs attention if Nerchio rolls Yonghwa....

Hmm...who to cheer for?

HerO 3-0 DRG IPL, stop whining.

Pure all-ins.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1708
Goddamn YongHwa, upgrades! UPGRADES!!!
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
July 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1709
Let's stop the whine and start talking about the YongHwa vs Golden game.
HGurryp
Profile Joined July 2011
275 Posts
July 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1710
On July 09 2012 02:08 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:08 Shiori wrote:
Maybe Blizzard will realize that PvZ needs attention if Nerchio rolls Yonghwa....

Hmm...who to cheer for?

You do realize that HerO absolutely destroyed DRG last night? PvZ balance is fine.


lol did you watch DRG vs Hero really? HE was playing so awful, no scouting, overdroning all time, he played on antiga shipyard ladder version wtf, dropping roaches on immortal wtf?
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1711
On July 09 2012 02:10 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:06 Terminal wrote:
On July 09 2012 02:01 samurai80 wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:46 Funkydonky wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:45 samurai80 wrote:
I liked the way Nerchio won that, pretty convincing, but him smiling like this after winning. It looks bm to me. Maybe I'm the only one but that's my impression.

People like you should go out, and stop watching SC2.

What ? Just because I say I'm not really fond of someone's smile ?? I like Nerchio man, nothing against him. I just said that this smile was so much like him making fun of his opponent. Trolling and provocation is really normal, but you have to do it in a certain way, in front of your opponent and not like this, smiling alone as if you were making fun of your opponent. Now maybe I'm thinking too much, but I know asian people (I'm not but I've lived in Japan for 8 years) actually really really care about that. You can make fun, troll and provoke your opponent, but there is a way to do it. Showing respect is the most important thing.
So now it's ok, it's HSC, everyone is having fun and Nerchio certainly did (EDIT: I meant did not) do that on purpose, but still I have the right to give my opinion and say I didn't really liked his smile at that moment.

Is this a joke?

Do people like you really exist? o_o

Sorry but I don't get where is your surprise coming from.

Saying a smile after winning is BM is pretty ridiculous though..

I mean.. dude... it's a smile...
Scareb
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
July 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1712
Why are only 1000 people watching the 1080p stream? $6 dollar to much for the SC2 fans?
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
July 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1713
Yonghwa forgetting his upgrades T_T
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
July 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1714
On July 09 2012 02:10 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:09 GregMandel wrote:
On July 09 2012 02:07 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 09 2012 02:06 GregMandel wrote:
On July 09 2012 02:05 polyphonyEX wrote:
this lr just went full retard. I might stop watching all non-GSL tournaments from now on.

Oh thats right, because there is no shitstorm on GSL lr's right ? riiiiiiiight ? :p

It's the best the starcraft community has to offer. Not saying much, but ...

I dont want to be offensive or anything but after lurking on the HSC LR for 4 days, i saw most of your post and I wouldnt think that you wanted the best this community has to offer with your attitude ( you bm sry )

Poly is an extremely biased and bm troll on these forums. Just ignore his ignorant statements.

Ok thanks i didnt know if it was especially for this tourney or whatever ...
i'll stop feeding the troll then :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 17:13:18
July 08 2012 17:12 GMT
#1715
Golden won (again), he shouldnt have after how hard he failed after the 1st push
(sorry double post)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
July 08 2012 17:12 GMT
#1716
On July 09 2012 02:10 Wroshe wrote:
By the way, quick sanity check: Is it a normal experience that you want at least half the people posting in this thread to be permanently banned from the internet or is that just me?


Pretty normal. It's basically Europeans (EU fanboys like me) vs Americans (Korean fanboys, cause they don't have own players to cheer for).
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
July 08 2012 17:12 GMT
#1717
On July 09 2012 02:11 HGurryp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:08 Wroshe wrote:
On July 09 2012 02:08 Shiori wrote:
Maybe Blizzard will realize that PvZ needs attention if Nerchio rolls Yonghwa....

Hmm...who to cheer for?

You do realize that HerO absolutely destroyed DRG last night? PvZ balance is fine.


lol did you watch DRG vs Hero really? HE was playing so awful, no scouting, overdroning all time, he played on antiga shipyard ladder version wtf, dropping roaches on immortal wtf?

?_? It's a famous strategy since Symbol beat Squirtle with it.

On July 09 2012 02:10 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:10 dragonborn wrote:
On July 09 2012 02:08 Shiori wrote:
Maybe Blizzard will realize that PvZ needs attention if Nerchio rolls Yonghwa....

Hmm...who to cheer for?

HerO 3-0 DRG IPL, stop whining.

Pure all-ins.

so what?
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 08 2012 17:12 GMT
#1718
On July 09 2012 02:08 HaXeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:01 samurai80 wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:46 Funkydonky wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:45 samurai80 wrote:
I liked the way Nerchio won that, pretty convincing, but him smiling like this after winning. It looks bm to me. Maybe I'm the only one but that's my impression.

People like you should go out, and stop watching SC2.

What ? Just because I say I'm not really fond of someone's smile ?? I like Nerchio man, nothing against him. I just said that this smile was so much like him making fun of his opponent. Trolling and provocation is really normal, but you have to do it in a certain way, in front of your opponent and not like this, smiling alone as if you were making fun of your opponent. Now maybe I'm thinking too much, but I know asian people (I'm not but I've lived in Japan for 8 years) actually really really care about that. You can make fun, troll and provoke your opponent, but there is a way to do it. Showing respect is the most important thing.
So now it's ok, it's HSC, everyone is having fun and Nerchio certainly did (EDIT: I meant did not) do that on purpose, but still I have the right to give my opinion and say I didn't really liked his smile at that moment.

Since when is smiling BM? Maybe you should go out and breathe some fresh air..


I wonder what he thought when Naama fist pumped after defeating MVP. Jail worthy maybe?
I've got moves like Jagger
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
July 08 2012 17:13 GMT
#1719
Younghwa looked really average there
@x5_MegaFonzie
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
July 08 2012 17:13 GMT
#1720
On July 09 2012 02:10 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 02:10 dragonborn wrote:
On July 09 2012 02:08 Shiori wrote:
Maybe Blizzard will realize that PvZ needs attention if Nerchio rolls Yonghwa....

Hmm...who to cheer for?

HerO 3-0 DRG IPL, stop whining.

Pure all-ins.

So what? Winning is winning.
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