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On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven. Couldn't agree more. 0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor 50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf
What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in
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Come to the Ninja Gay Den. We have everthing you need.
:D
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Talking about notoriously hard video games.
Neglecting to mention Battle toads.
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does not even mention touhou....
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On July 05 2012 20:45 Yonnua wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:35 EmilA wrote:On July 05 2012 20:31 EmilA wrote:On July 05 2012 20:30 EmilA wrote:On July 05 2012 20:08 EmilA wrote:
Some exciting roaches hitting roaches until one side cannot produce more roaches action incomming Some serious roaches hitting roaches action right now. Very tense. #1 micro unit. Nestea is making a lot of roaches and going semi all in. DRG is countering by making more roaches while maybe making a support unit that is good against roaches. Turns out DRG made enough roaches to hold. Nestea is in a lot of trouble unless he can make some roaches. Nestea skimped too much on the roaches and roach upgrades. DRG pushes through with roaches and the unit that is a strong support unit for roaches against other roaches. Intense game 2 coming up here. I've played SC2 since release and I think there's a reasonable chance we're going to see roaches. Loads of roaches in game 2 there...
Yeah man... damn.. I could have sworn they look different though
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On July 05 2012 20:43 Giku wrote:
Why the hate against ZvZ? It's not just roach-roach, it's actually pretty complex with upgrade timings, double or single upgrades, getting burrow or not, how fast do you get infestors, when do you drone, when do you favor units ahead of everything?
I really like it, it's more hidden chess than TvT is really.
True it's complex, but for people like me that don't really deeply understand the matchup, i just see 2 blobs of roaches smashing each other
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On July 05 2012 20:45 iXphobos wrote:
Come to the Ninja Gay Den. We have everthing you need.
:D
God that smiley at the end just killed me. I'm so bad.
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On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven. Couldn't agree more. 0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor 50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in
In other words, Terran is favored both in cheese games and in long macro games, nothing to complain about!
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On July 05 2012 20:43 Giku wrote:
Why the hate against ZvZ? It's not just roach-roach, it's actually pretty complex with upgrade timings, double or single upgrades, getting burrow or not, how fast do you get infestors, when do you drone, when do you favor units ahead of everything?
I really like it, it's more hidden chess than TvT is really.
You haven't played Chess before have you?
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On July 05 2012 20:45 gedatsu wrote:
Talking about notoriously hard video games.
Neglecting to mention Battle toads.
Battle Toads is beyond hard.
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Please god not another roach battle.
These guys can be so diverse and we're just not seeing it. Ling/infesor and/or mutas please ._.
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On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven. Couldn't agree more. 0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor 50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in
So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please.
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On July 05 2012 20:43 Giku wrote:
Why the hate against ZvZ? It's not just roach-roach, it's actually pretty complex with upgrade timings, double or single upgrades, getting burrow or not, how fast do you get infestors, when do you drone, when do you favor units ahead of everything?
I really like it, it's more hidden chess than TvT is really.
Sure, but it's way more volatile, especially with the different pool timings. TvT usually don't end in less than 10 minutes...
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On July 05 2012 20:46 iXphobos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:45 gedatsu wrote:
Talking about notoriously hard video games.
Neglecting to mention Battle toads. Battle Toads is beyond hard.
Even with savestates I couldn't beat it :D
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On July 05 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven. Couldn't agree more. 0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor 50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please.
I'm pretty sure most 2raxes aren't just "pressure" builds, 11/11 is pretty all-in.
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On July 05 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven. Couldn't agree more. 0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor 50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please.
9 pool into 5 queen rush
sweet build bro
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On July 05 2012 20:46 iXphobos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:45 gedatsu wrote:
Talking about notoriously hard video games.
Neglecting to mention Battle toads. Battle Toads is beyond hard.
Urrgh, dont remind me. Not sure how many levels there were but I sure had quite a few left.
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THERE!
Ling/infestor from DRG. Thank you
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On July 05 2012 20:46 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:43 Giku wrote:
Why the hate against ZvZ? It's not just roach-roach, it's actually pretty complex with upgrade timings, double or single upgrades, getting burrow or not, how fast do you get infestors, when do you drone, when do you favor units ahead of everything?
I really like it, it's more hidden chess than TvT is really. Sure, but it's way more volatile, especially with the different pool timings. TvT usually don't end in less than 10 minutes...
Which makes it boring imho, in ZvZ the tension starts so early.
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On July 05 2012 20:47 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven. Couldn't agree more. 0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor 50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please. 9 pool into 5 queen rush sweet build bro
I do that all the time. My creep spread is Seal level at the 6 min mark
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