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aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 08 2012 03:23 GMT
#1501
wow yees snipe!
Mmm, what to watch.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 08 2012 03:23 GMT
#1502
I think MMA could have been much bolder with his banshees. This seemed very shy :D
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
July 08 2012 03:23 GMT
#1503
hopefully MMA sees the mutas coming.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 08 2012 03:23 GMT
#1504
On July 08 2012 12:09 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 12:02 The Final Boss wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players

Why would Terran players do that? Every time a Terran wins with something that nobody has seen before, it's "fixed" next patch.

MorroW wins with Reapers; but his build was revolutionary, it was just that Terran is overpowered.
Slayers Terrans bring their Blue Flame Hellion build to MLG; it's not because it's a revolutionary build, it's because it's broken.
ThorZaIN beats MC with Thors; clearly Thors are OP.
Mvp snipes everything; well no more Snipe then.
Hellion openings vZ help Terrans detect early threats while applying some mild pressure/denying creep; clearly that build/style was overpowered.

Can you see why maybe Terrans don't feel like coming up with new stuff any more?

EDIT: Also, both of the other races have always found answers from Blizzard for their problems, why not Terran?


Interesting post. But Terran is objectively the most accomplished race in SC2 history. Considering that all the actual evidence has shown that Terran was too strong, was Blizzard really supposed to buy the subjective argument that Terran players were "Just Better" and leave the game alone?

At the same time, I can't disagree with your sentiment about the mentality of Terran players. Now, they certainly wouldn't throw a game with an inferior strategy -- but I can imagine them masochistically trying to use an outdated strategy when they're mentally unbalanced in a series so they can say to themselves "SEE!"

Overall they are not the most accomplished, but they are the most accomplished in the GSL. You know, the place where Mvp plays his best and for a long time where players were seeded was based on how well they did in the 2010 GSL Seasons back when nobody knew what they were doing and BitByBit strategies pushed Terrans super far on maps like Steppes of War. Also in GSL I think it's fair to say that at very important points, Zergs and Protoss players have made terrible blunders that would have changed the outcome of the touranment (MC picking Mvp for his group, Squirtle in Game 7 of GSL finals, Oz against Jjakji--I don't remember which game--but Oz would have won that series if he had played 100%).

Mvp and other top players have stated that other players just don't play their best in GSL, Squirtle vs Mvp Game 7 is literally a perfect example of that. Protoss players can complain that "MC is the only P to win a GSL," but at the end of the day, there is no reason that Squirtle did not win that game. There was no balance in the end of that game.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
July 08 2012 03:23 GMT
#1505
This banshee play is pretty nuts
mrlie3
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada350 Posts
July 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#1506
wth is this actually gonna work? sniping hatch and queens and shizzle? o.O
Crimson @ Clan CORE | ESFI World Translator
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
July 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#1507
lots of rax
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#1508
On July 08 2012 12:23 blamekilly wrote:
hopefully MMA sees the mutas coming.


He should he saw spire morphing with banshees.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45925 Posts
July 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#1509
On July 08 2012 12:23 ZenithM wrote:
I think MMA could have been much bolder with his banshees. This seemed very shy :D


I agree. I'm glad he took out the third hatchery, but I think he could have done a little more.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
July 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#1510
On July 08 2012 12:22 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 12:21 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 08 2012 12:19 Whatson wrote:
On July 08 2012 12:18 the`postman wrote:
Infact Taeja is 33-12 postpatch in TvZ, wow.

Dude's turned up his macro now, his micro and multi-tasking were always top-notch.

Are you crazy? Macro has always been his strongest lol

I would say the biggest weakness I've seen in his games is overconfidence in what can be overcome through macro lol

Really? I remember in his all-kill of Zenex back a year ago when he was floating well over 1k even on 50-55 SCVs, but he was microing around dropships and splitting like a boss.

same, i still see him floating like 1k in the midgame in recent games. i was always impressed with his micro.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
July 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#1511
Those Banshee's sure were worth the money for the work that they have done.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45925 Posts
July 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#1512
On July 08 2012 12:24 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 12:23 blamekilly wrote:
hopefully MMA sees the mutas coming.


He should he saw spire morphing with banshees.


Turrets going down. He should be prepared
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 08 2012 03:25 GMT
#1513
On July 08 2012 12:22 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 12:21 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 08 2012 12:19 Whatson wrote:
On July 08 2012 12:18 the`postman wrote:
Infact Taeja is 33-12 postpatch in TvZ, wow.

Dude's turned up his macro now, his micro and multi-tasking were always top-notch.

Are you crazy? Macro has always been his strongest lol

I would say the biggest weakness I've seen in his games is overconfidence in what can be overcome through macro lol

Really? I remember in his all-kill of Zenex back a year ago when he was floating well over 1k even on 50-55 SCVs, but he was microing around dropships and splitting like a boss.

It's because unlike, say every terran in Slayers, he doesn't ever queue more than 2 units. Like if you actually watch an MMA game closely, even during his high points results wise, he'd have like 4 units in all his raxes and winning because of fucking awesome army movement.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
July 08 2012 03:25 GMT
#1514
DRG will still win anyways...
Crowned
Profile Joined August 2011
United States368 Posts
July 08 2012 03:25 GMT
#1515
MKP is known for his micro, but his macro has always been just as impressive.
It's cool to love to win, but it's better to hate to lose.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 08 2012 03:27 GMT
#1516
DRG don't lose those mutas!!!
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
July 08 2012 03:27 GMT
#1517
DRGs macro....is good
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 08 2012 03:28 GMT
#1518
On July 08 2012 12:14 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 12:13 MasterKang wrote:
On July 08 2012 12:10 The Final Boss wrote:
On July 08 2012 12:05 Noocta wrote:
On July 08 2012 12:02 chambertin wrote:
This is actually pretty funny. If MKP MMA and MVP are slumping... which Terran isn't lol


Jjakji !

That's why he's Code A right?

-__________________________- do you realize how easy it is to fall into code A in this new gsl format?

Yeah this "LOL only Code A" is kinda irrelevant now. Basically any top player but 8 are Code A atm.

Personally if i'm talking about somebody being Code A, I am specifically talking about them starting the season there. And I was not saying that Jjakji being Code A is bad, it's just that the question was asked regarding which Terran is not "slumping." Yes Code A is difficult and it is an accomplishment, but if the only Terran who is not "slumping" is in Code A then I think we have a problem.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 03:29:36
July 08 2012 03:28 GMT
#1519
On July 08 2012 12:25 Crowned wrote:
MKP is known for his micro, but his macro has always been just as impressive.

Yeah, MKP has pretty much perfect Terran mechanics, despite having not that high of a raw APM number. You open replays from him in SC2gears, he has like 20% redundancy between APM and eAPM. MKP's mechanics are so efficient :D

Mechanics at least are not what is holding him down atm.
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 08 2012 03:29 GMT
#1520
there's no way that drone rally was on purpose is there?
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