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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 17 2012 14:02 GMT
#1721
On June 17 2012 23:01 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 22:59 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:52 hifriend wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:50 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:48 hifriend wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:48 Hall0wed wrote:
Oh Hero, just on a completely different level than Naniwa.

haha based on that one 4 gate pvp?

nani get out tho, this is so over


Based on an infinite number of things. And that wasn't a "4 gate pvp", that was a 4 gate getting destroyed by a 2 gate.

Uh ok, what things? Clearly not results. It was one PvP in a series that holds zero significance for either player.


Yeah because Naniwa's RO8 Code S is clearly better than Hero's RO4. Oh and winning a Dreamhack? Naw just child's play man, you're right.


Ro16 is also better than Code A.



naniwa never survived in code a so what a pointless comparison
kaetor
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand292 Posts
June 17 2012 14:02 GMT
#1722
2GD is there and not casting the QL? He better cast some at some point!
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
June 17 2012 14:02 GMT
#1723
Hero forces the cancel on Naniwa's Nexus while Hero got up his own.
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
frede
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany52 Posts
June 17 2012 14:03 GMT
#1724
On June 17 2012 23:02 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 22:59 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:52 hifriend wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:50 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:48 hifriend wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:48 Hall0wed wrote:
Oh Hero, just on a completely different level than Naniwa.

haha based on that one 4 gate pvp?

nani get out tho, this is so over


Based on an infinite number of things. And that wasn't a "4 gate pvp", that was a 4 gate getting destroyed by a 2 gate.

Uh ok, what things? Clearly not results. It was one PvP in a series that holds zero significance for either player.


Yeah because Naniwa's RO8 Code S is clearly better than Hero's RO4. Oh and winning a Dreamhack? Naw just child's play man, you're right.

Yeah do you think that's a convincing argument for hero being "on a completely different level than Naniwa". Gj not even mentioning naniwa's results, or the fact that nani fell out of GSL vs MVP who went on to win the tournament.


And hero beat mvp in ro16
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 17 2012 14:03 GMT
#1725
Sase and Naniwa are going to make it far @ Dreamhack with their power of love & friendship.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 17 2012 14:03 GMT
#1726
Damn, I thought Hero vs Naniwa was going to be much more close, but Hero is just outplaying Nani so bad that it hurts, I can't believe my eyes!
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 17 2012 14:03 GMT
#1727
On June 17 2012 23:01 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 22:59 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:52 hifriend wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:50 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:48 hifriend wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:48 Hall0wed wrote:
Oh Hero, just on a completely different level than Naniwa.

haha based on that one 4 gate pvp?

nani get out tho, this is so over


Based on an infinite number of things. And that wasn't a "4 gate pvp", that was a 4 gate getting destroyed by a 2 gate.

Uh ok, what things? Clearly not results. It was one PvP in a series that holds zero significance for either player.


Yeah because Naniwa's RO8 Code S is clearly better than Hero's RO4. Oh and winning a Dreamhack? Naw just child's play man, you're right.


Ro16 is also better than Code A.



Not showing in this series that's for sure.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
June 17 2012 14:03 GMT
#1728
Great move FF-ing Nani's ramp. By the way, who did Tzain lose to?
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 17 2012 14:04 GMT
#1729
How come every player just has to be "So much better" than another player, seriously I can't recall the last time the SC2 community looked at 2 players and said "Yeah they're as good as each other" it has to always be one is so much better than the other.
Glorious SEA doto
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
June 17 2012 14:04 GMT
#1730
On June 17 2012 22:56 ohampatu wrote:
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On June 17 2012 22:54 Toadvine wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:49 ThisIsRaichu wrote:
That build was so strong by hero, anyone knows how soon dreamhack releases their replays after the event?


It's a standard 3 Stalker opening into two more Stalkers and then a followup depending on what you see. It's basically invulnerable to 4gate, only reason Naniwa had a chance was that Hero didn't scout that lowground pylon. Some versions make Sentries after the first three Stalkers, the 5 Stalker version is more aggressive, and often does quite a bit of damage against greedy tech builds.



People open the 5 stalker way instead of the 3 stalker into sentry way because the 5 stalker opening allows for a 'counter 4 gate' I find. 4 gate fails the only option is a followup allin, or expand and prey. The 5 stalker open kinda pre-prevents the expand option I find. You will defend 4 gate and pressure enough that he can't come back.

3 stalkers into 2 sentries is more a lategame/expo build. Generally after the 2 sentries they can rush colo. Works well on like antiga, esp with 1 canon near your nat. Again though, vulnerable to the 1 base blink plays. see guys, pvp is so fun!


Yeah, 3 stalkers, stalker/sentry, Nexus, Robo, two more Sentries and a 3rd Gate is my standard PvP build currently, and the only thing that I can't hold is a 1 Gate Twilight Blink rush. Thankfully you don't see that stuff too much in EU Masters with the prevalence of those 4 gate DT into chargelot archon shenanigans.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 17 2012 14:04 GMT
#1731
On June 17 2012 23:03 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 23:01 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:59 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:52 hifriend wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:50 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:48 hifriend wrote:
On June 17 2012 22:48 Hall0wed wrote:
Oh Hero, just on a completely different level than Naniwa.

haha based on that one 4 gate pvp?

nani get out tho, this is so over


Based on an infinite number of things. And that wasn't a "4 gate pvp", that was a 4 gate getting destroyed by a 2 gate.

Uh ok, what things? Clearly not results. It was one PvP in a series that holds zero significance for either player.


Yeah because Naniwa's RO8 Code S is clearly better than Hero's RO4. Oh and winning a Dreamhack? Naw just child's play man, you're right.


Ro16 is also better than Code A.



Not showing in this series that's for sure.


Never said Naniwa is better than HerO :p
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 17 2012 14:04 GMT
#1732
MAKE MORE UNITS HERO
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 17 2012 14:05 GMT
#1733
On June 17 2012 23:04 Fusilero wrote:
How come every player just has to be "So much better" than another player, seriously I can't recall the last time the SC2 community looked at 2 players and said "Yeah they're as good as each other" it has to always be one is so much better than the other.

This almost always happen when it's between a top tier foreigner vs a korean
MMA: The true King of Wings
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 17 2012 14:05 GMT
#1734
On June 17 2012 23:04 Fusilero wrote:
How come every player just has to be "So much better" than another player, seriously I can't recall the last time the SC2 community looked at 2 players and said "Yeah they're as good as each other" it has to always be one is so much better than the other.

It's because some people think the result of 1 game equals how players do in every other game against anyone.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 17 2012 14:06 GMT
#1735
Warp prism incoming main base of hero
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 17 2012 14:06 GMT
#1736
oh god... this 2gd interview xD
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 17 2012 14:06 GMT
#1737
Keen with another lol win from marine pressure.
Glorious SEA doto
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 17 2012 14:06 GMT
#1738
Keen just keeps on beating foreigner P's with marine pokes TT
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
June 17 2012 14:06 GMT
#1739
ugh stream?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 17 2012 14:07 GMT
#1740
Yeah stream died for us in IRC too
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
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