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On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote: Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too? Not really, just made lots and lots of roaches.
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On June 17 2012 21:22 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 21:19 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Haha, Naniwa thinking he could beat Stephano... Sase knocked him out of MLG after practicing his PvZ a lot and Naniwa has beaten zergs that are better than Stephano before so I think he would do it if he would get some time to prepare. Naniwa beat stephano a couple of Dreamhack's ago iirc
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Just tuned in. What happened first game Forsen-Naniwa?
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On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote: Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too?
i think zerg's consider 3 base roaching as a macro build so who knows : D
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On June 17 2012 21:25 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 21:23 Wombat_NI wrote:On June 17 2012 21:21 rothsbury wrote:On June 17 2012 21:19 Wombat_NI wrote: Ouch, hopefully Nani can pull it together next game. Can't wait until HoTS, hopefully it will see the end of this boring mass roach style. Mass roach style is easily countered by immortal builds. Oh yeah I do know this, it's not overpowered but it's one of the most boring styles to watch in the game was my point. Ah right, so much balance whining sometimes it's hard to tell. I kind of like the multi-pronged attacks that do with it personally.
It can be good but it can also be incredibly frustrating to just see the Protoss flop around being unable to handle what is basically a brute-force roach attack.
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On June 17 2012 21:21 TheSwamp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 21:18 Toadvine wrote: Going by Naniwa's build, he was anticipating Mutas. Otherwise, there's no reason to get Blink that early, since it doesn't help much against against roach pressure. Also, he should've had like two sentries and an immortal at his front. That makes sense but why go for a quick third if you think mutas are coming?
You want to have it finished and cannoned up as the mutas arrive. The earlier you take it, the easier it is to defend, and 2basing against 3 base Muta is practically an autoloss.
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On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote: Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too? Multi-pronged 3 base roach agression, wtfpwned Naniwa in game 1.
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On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote: Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too? roach max, nani gets overwhelmed.
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On June 17 2012 21:22 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 21:19 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Haha, Naniwa thinking he could beat Stephano... Sase knocked him out of MLG after practicing his PvZ a lot and Naniwa has beaten zergs that are better than Stephano before so I think he would do it if he would get some time to prepare.
Haha lol, one series doesn't mean anything...Stephano would destroy Naniwa.And since a lot of pro players say that Stephano has the best ZvP in the world bar DRG, your amateur statement doesn't have any relevance...
Naniwa isn't a skillful player, he does well in GSL because he plays more than Koreans.
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On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote: Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too?
no amusingly...
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That's interesting. Starnan waited until he had two chronos on one nexus before he chronoed a stalker out as well as his WG research. That's a little late isn't it? And he did it while Keen was in his base anyway.
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On June 17 2012 21:26 Kreb wrote: Just tuned in. What happened first game Forsen-Naniwa?
Basically a typical 3 base mass roach bust from Forsen and NaNi was unable to deal with it. A runby with some zerglings really really helped in this. Overal really good play by Forsen and spotty defense by NaNi, nothing special.
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On June 17 2012 21:26 MavivaM wrote: This is the sign of a really good player: someone else would have just attacked the lings from beyond the rocks, Naniwa instead baited an attack and turned it over with his micro.
Lol, so wrong.
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On June 17 2012 21:26 ROOTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote: Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too? i think zerg's consider 3 base roaching as a macro build so who knows : D Yeh. Zergs should only build spines and infestors and tech to hive! :D
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On June 17 2012 21:25 Farone wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 21:25 polyphonyEX wrote: some spotty play by naniwa here, expected a bit more
it was actually very nice defense @ Ohana More sloppy by forsen imo. Should have baited the forcefields by the cannons and moved all his lings around. After the probes got trapped out he could have easily cleaned them all up.
Instead he lost half his units trapped by the cannons and threw away the other half with poor control by the probes/ramp.
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On June 17 2012 21:24 Hall0wed wrote: I hope Keen takes this whole thing down and we get the ceremony to end all ceremonies.
Though Hero winning another DH would be nice too, or even HuK getting a repeat DH Summer win. But Keen winning is the most likely of those 3 I think, though idk how Hero is playing this weekend. If keen wins the tournament he must show us a dance to prove himself as a worthy successor to firebathero.
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On June 17 2012 21:26 Za7oX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 21:22 Kevan wrote:On June 17 2012 21:19 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Haha, Naniwa thinking he could beat Stephano... Sase knocked him out of MLG after practicing his PvZ a lot and Naniwa has beaten zergs that are better than Stephano before so I think he would do it if he would get some time to prepare. Naniwa beat stephano a couple of Dreamhack's ago iirc
Yeah, Naniwa beat him 2-0 at Dreamhack Winter. Actually Stephano went 0-3 (1-6) in an all foreign group with Naniwa, Cloud and Sheth.
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I hope naniwa does a 2-base all in. Holding a third on this map against zerg is just T_T
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On June 17 2012 21:27 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 21:22 Kevan wrote:On June 17 2012 21:19 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Haha, Naniwa thinking he could beat Stephano... Sase knocked him out of MLG after practicing his PvZ a lot and Naniwa has beaten zergs that are better than Stephano before so I think he would do it if he would get some time to prepare. Haha lol, one series doesn't mean anything...Stephano would destroy Naniwa.And if pro players say that Stephano has the best ZvP in the world bar DRG, your amateur statement doesn't have any relevance... Well Naniwa has a winning record against him and is a Code S player.
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