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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 17 2012 12:26 GMT
#1221
On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote:
Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too?

Not really, just made lots and lots of roaches.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 17 2012 12:26 GMT
#1222
On June 17 2012 21:22 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 21:19 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Haha, Naniwa thinking he could beat Stephano...

Sase knocked him out of MLG after practicing his PvZ a lot and Naniwa has beaten zergs that are better than Stephano before so I think he would do it if he would get some time to prepare.

Naniwa beat stephano a couple of Dreamhack's ago iirc
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
June 17 2012 12:26 GMT
#1223
Just tuned in. What happened first game Forsen-Naniwa?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
June 17 2012 12:26 GMT
#1224
On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote:
Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too?


i think zerg's consider 3 base roaching as a macro build so who knows : D
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 17 2012 12:26 GMT
#1225
On June 17 2012 21:25 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 21:23 Wombat_NI wrote:
On June 17 2012 21:21 rothsbury wrote:
On June 17 2012 21:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
Ouch, hopefully Nani can pull it together next game. Can't wait until HoTS, hopefully it will see the end of this boring mass roach style.

Mass roach style is easily countered by immortal builds.

Oh yeah I do know this, it's not overpowered but it's one of the most boring styles to watch in the game was my point.

Ah right, so much balance whining sometimes it's hard to tell. I kind of like the multi-pronged attacks that do with it personally.


It can be good but it can also be incredibly frustrating to just see the Protoss flop around being unable to handle what is basically a brute-force roach attack.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
June 17 2012 12:26 GMT
#1226
On June 17 2012 21:21 TheSwamp wrote:
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On June 17 2012 21:18 Toadvine wrote:
Going by Naniwa's build, he was anticipating Mutas. Otherwise, there's no reason to get Blink that early, since it doesn't help much against against roach pressure. Also, he should've had like two sentries and an immortal at his front.


That makes sense but why go for a quick third if you think mutas are coming?


You want to have it finished and cannoned up as the mutas arrive. The earlier you take it, the easier it is to defend, and 2basing against 3 base Muta is practically an autoloss.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
June 17 2012 12:26 GMT
#1227
On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote:
Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too?

Multi-pronged 3 base roach agression, wtfpwned Naniwa in game 1.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 17 2012 12:27 GMT
#1228
On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote:
Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too?

roach max, nani gets overwhelmed.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 12:28:14
June 17 2012 12:27 GMT
#1229
On June 17 2012 21:22 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 21:19 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Haha, Naniwa thinking he could beat Stephano...

Sase knocked him out of MLG after practicing his PvZ a lot and Naniwa has beaten zergs that are better than Stephano before so I think he would do it if he would get some time to prepare.


Haha lol, one series doesn't mean anything...Stephano would destroy Naniwa.And since a lot of pro players say that Stephano has the best ZvP in the world bar DRG, your amateur statement doesn't have any relevance...

Naniwa isn't a skillful player, he does well in GSL because he plays more than Koreans.

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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 17 2012 12:27 GMT
#1230
On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote:
Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too?


no amusingly...
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
June 17 2012 12:27 GMT
#1231
That's interesting. Starnan waited until he had two chronos on one nexus before he chronoed a stalker out as well as his WG research. That's a little late isn't it? And he did it while Keen was in his base anyway.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 17 2012 12:27 GMT
#1232
On June 17 2012 21:26 Kreb wrote:
Just tuned in. What happened first game Forsen-Naniwa?


Basically a typical 3 base mass roach bust from Forsen and NaNi was unable to deal with it. A runby with some zerglings really really helped in this. Overal really good play by Forsen and spotty defense by NaNi, nothing special.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
June 17 2012 12:28 GMT
#1233
On June 17 2012 21:26 MavivaM wrote:
This is the sign of a really good player: someone else would have just attacked the lings from beyond the rocks, Naniwa instead baited an attack and turned it over with his micro.


Lol, so wrong.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 17 2012 12:28 GMT
#1234
On June 17 2012 21:26 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 21:26 Sp00ly wrote:
Just got back to see Forsen fail with that all-in. I'm assuming Forsen allin'd the first game too?


i think zerg's consider 3 base roaching as a macro build so who knows : D

Yeh. Zergs should only build spines and infestors and tech to hive! :D
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#1235
On June 17 2012 21:25 Farone wrote:
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On June 17 2012 21:25 polyphonyEX wrote:
some spotty play by naniwa here, expected a bit more



it was actually very nice defense @ Ohana

More sloppy by forsen imo. Should have baited the forcefields by the cannons and moved all his lings around. After the probes got trapped out he could have easily cleaned them all up.

Instead he lost half his units trapped by the cannons and threw away the other half with poor control by the probes/ramp.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#1236
On June 17 2012 21:24 Hall0wed wrote:
I hope Keen takes this whole thing down and we get the ceremony to end all ceremonies.

Though Hero winning another DH would be nice too, or even HuK getting a repeat DH Summer win. But Keen winning is the most likely of those 3 I think, though idk how Hero is playing this weekend.

If keen wins the tournament he must show us a dance to prove himself as a worthy successor to firebathero.
Glorious SEA doto
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
June 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#1237
On June 17 2012 21:26 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 21:22 Kevan wrote:
On June 17 2012 21:19 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Haha, Naniwa thinking he could beat Stephano...

Sase knocked him out of MLG after practicing his PvZ a lot and Naniwa has beaten zergs that are better than Stephano before so I think he would do it if he would get some time to prepare.

Naniwa beat stephano a couple of Dreamhack's ago iirc


Yeah, Naniwa beat him 2-0 at Dreamhack Winter.
Actually Stephano went 0-3 (1-6) in an all foreign group with Naniwa, Cloud and Sheth.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#1238
I hope naniwa does a 2-base all in. Holding a third on this map against zerg is just T_T
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
June 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#1239
On June 17 2012 21:27 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 21:22 Kevan wrote:
On June 17 2012 21:19 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Haha, Naniwa thinking he could beat Stephano...

Sase knocked him out of MLG after practicing his PvZ a lot and Naniwa has beaten zergs that are better than Stephano before so I think he would do it if he would get some time to prepare.


Haha lol, one series doesn't mean anything...Stephano would destroy Naniwa.And if pro players say that Stephano has the best ZvP in the world bar DRG, your amateur statement doesn't have any relevance...

Well Naniwa has a winning record against him and is a Code S player.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
June 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#1240
Keen crushing....
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
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