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It is now page 592 and the off topic discussion and personal arguments end now.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 03:30:42
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5781
People arguing map imbalance are unaware of the skill difference between MKP and Stephano. DRG is really the only challenge for MKP this tournament.

And I can't wait for them to meet in the finals again tomorrow.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5782
can anyone tell me where they are on the schedule .. ?
starleague forever
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 03:30:41
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5783
On June 10 2012 12:29 SgtCoDFish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 12:27 Talack wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:26 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:26 Talack wrote:
MY god MKP is amazing...

I've never seen someone beat ling/infestor with pure bio, this is insane.


Pure bio???? ^^


Is there something confusing there? :S


MarineKing built tanks, and last time I checked tanks weren't bio.

*edit: said were at first


well check again, they aren't

haha, nvm saw your edit
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 03:30:39
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5784
On June 10 2012 12:28 ZeromuS wrote:
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On June 10 2012 12:27 aimgorge wrote:
10 mules on gold... it's not even fun :|


Mules mine gold at the same rate as blue minerals so it actually is worse to put mules at the gold base and better to use scvs and put mules on blue patch


You are completely incorrect.

Anyway, Stephano's build was really poor; taking a 20 supply third simply isn't efficient in ZvT because the timings are so much earlier than ZvP, you can't have an economy up that's strong enough to deal with helions and then get up to 70+ drones with a 4th fast enough to defend MKP's 3 base timing.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5785
On June 10 2012 12:27 Schmoooopy wrote:
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On June 10 2012 12:26 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:26 Dosey wrote:
ugh this map with gold in the middle = fail


Doesn't make any difference in anything but PvZ.

Just curious, as a Terran not knowing much about PvZ, how does it affect that matchup significantly? Not questioning that logic, just wondering.


I'm not Zerg or Toss myself but the Zerg will just take a Gold as third get significantly more income and the Toss can do shit about it while he's overrun.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5786
On June 10 2012 12:28 WardenSC wrote:
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On June 10 2012 12:27 Adreme wrote:
I will say MKP only real mistake is that he keeps dropping MULES at gold bases. Those are less than helpful to use on a gold now so he should probably not do that.


That's not a mistake, that's the most recent base and also the most exposed base he has out there, so it makes perfect sense to send down mules to gain resources from that base asap.


I would normally agree with you but if you lose that base and thus that position in a TvZ 9 times out of 10 you lose the game which means Id rather keep higher income from having the base.
cooked
Profile Joined December 2010
China1238 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5787
i hope that supposed drunk guy was part of the sign, not just some random tired guy getting taken advantage of
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5788
On June 10 2012 12:28 darkness wrote:
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On June 10 2012 12:27 Sc2Null wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:26 darkness wrote:
Casters need to forget the word 'perfect'. MKP played very well, but not perfectly.


what did he do wrong?


For example, he got a bunch of marines fungaled. You know, you can always play better. I didn't say he played bad.


Lmfao at this. It was just perfect. What do you want? That MKP takes zero damage and zero unit loss?
Gokba Alhakel
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5789
On June 10 2012 12:29 DOUDOU wrote:
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On June 10 2012 12:29 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:28 Adreme wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:27 Benjamin99 wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:26 andaylin wrote:
Sorry Stephano, MKP is in a different class. Only DRG can challenge him.


Really I saw Stephano lossing again to a terran on the same fucking unbalanced map that every zerg lose 9 times out of 10 its discrace!


Ive seen terrans lose on this map all weekend. I think I questioned earlier after seeing the 4th terran loss in a row on this map if maybe some of the early timings changed the balance of the map.

Plus Stephano has said he actually likes Antiga vs T

vs T maybe, not vs MKP

xD I don't think any zerg likes the vs MKP matchup!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5790
On June 10 2012 12:28 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 12:27 Talack wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:26 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:26 Talack wrote:
MY god MKP is amazing...

I've never seen someone beat ling/infestor with pure bio, this is insane.


Pure bio???? ^^


Is there something confusing there? :S

He made tanks.

And all they did in the game was die. lol
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5791
On June 10 2012 12:30 andaylin wrote:
People arguing map imbalance are unaware of the skill difference between MKP and Stephano. DRG is really the only challenge for MKP this tournament.

sometimes fanboys are too obvious >.<
Chun-li since ST
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5792
On June 10 2012 12:27 Dodgin wrote:
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On June 10 2012 12:27 Benjamin99 wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:26 andaylin wrote:
Sorry Stephano, MKP is in a different class. Only DRG can challenge him.


Really I saw Stephano lossing again to a terran on the same fucking unbalanced map that every zerg lose 9 times out of 10 its discrace!


Really that's what you saw?

LOL


Yup, Polt dismantled Stephano in pretty much the same way in this same map earlier in the tournament.
sicueft
Profile Joined June 2012
United States130 Posts
June 10 2012 03:30 GMT
#5793
I thought that the high yield minerals were replaced by regular minerals. What's the deal?
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#5794
On June 10 2012 12:30 tsuxiit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 12:28 ZeromuS wrote:
On June 10 2012 12:27 aimgorge wrote:
10 mules on gold... it's not even fun :|


Mules mine gold at the same rate as blue minerals so it actually is worse to put mules at the gold base and better to use scvs and put mules on blue patch


You are completely incorrect.

Anyway, Stephano's build was really poor; taking a 20 supply third simply isn't efficient in ZvT because the timings are so much earlier than ZvP, you can't have an economy up that's strong enough to deal with helions and then get up to 70+ drones with a 4th fast enough to defend MKP's 3 base timing.


No he is right MULES only get 30 from gold bases.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
June 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#5795
when are the kespa show match?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#5796
There are 3 types of Terran.
There is Terran, then there is MVP and MKP.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
June 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#5797
MKP is disgustingly good...
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
June 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#5798
Easy 2-0 for MKP come on!!!!
Gokba Alhakel
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 03:31:34
June 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#5799
I think MKP-stephano game one is a good indication of what happens if a terran doesn't lose a shitload of units to random aggression throughout the early and mid game and doesn't make a slip up macroing. Maxed soooo fast and was getting 3-3 about as early as humanly possible. Flawless execution from MKP.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
June 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#5800
On June 10 2012 12:28 blooblooblahblah wrote:
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On June 10 2012 12:27 JujuXG wrote:
people are blaming the map?


The map is awful ZvT but the imbalanced on that map didn't really play a part in that game.


If zerg wins it's skill, if terran or protoss win it's something in the game that's imbalanced. Didn't you guys learn this from Idra in the beta like everyone else did (and still continues to use that excuse even today) ?
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