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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 09 2012 05:24 GMT
#5081
On June 09 2012 14:23 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 14:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Why is this mlg much smaller than normal?


I don't think it's smaller necessarily, it's just the fewest Foreigners we've ever seen in pool play before. And therefore (in this fans opinion) not quite as exciting as it used to be.

its smaller. the open bracket is only 144 due to WCS.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
June 09 2012 05:24 GMT
#5082
i think the secret to beating zergs as terran is you gotta find a way to get to 3 bases safely without being behind in economy or tech

I believe the 200food hyper lategame terran army (bc/viking/seeker missile/tank/thor/emp) may even be superior to the zerg ultimate 200food hyper lategame army, terrans just dont know a way to achieve it yet safely

but much harder said than done... currently it seems no terran really knows how to do that yet (if it is even possible)

it MAY be possible, or hell it may be impossible, i dont really know

polt vs stephano game 3 where polt tried to play greedy and go for fast 3 CC, he got decimated by the pressure of stephano and really there was nothing polt could do and no way to really scout if that pressure is coming or if zerg is playing greedy before you drop your fast 3 CC... or MAYBE there is i dont know

what i said originally is the main point here... It seems no terran has truly found a way yet to safely get to an even macro game against zerg where the zerg doesnt clearly have a midgame advantage.

For all we know it may be impossible to do, or maybe there is some unexplored build or possibility that remains to be found.

Every time i see stephano or DRG lose to terran in a macro game its usually because the terran played greedy and got away with it.

it seems every time a terran doesnt clearly play ultra greedy hes always fighting a uphill battle against zerg

whats the solution? i dunno i still have hope that there is some unfound build / style / method out there for terran against zerg that will revolutionize the matchup and allow them to not always be behind... or maybe it doesnt exist... sighh



go to 18 minutes 20 seconds to see teh mech army pwnage against nestea. i realize nestea was 30 supply behind hmm but gumiho had bad viking control and kept letting them get clumped and fungaled and gumiho with a 30 supply advantage ended up keeping like 90 supply after the battle its hard to believe if nestea had 30 more supply it woulda swung in his favor

so i think terran has a viable endgame army to fight a lategame zerg... its just hard to get to that point... maybe some viable safe greedy build will found for terran, right now it seems to be all over the place
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
June 09 2012 05:24 GMT
#5083
Is JYP beating Artist considered an upset?
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 09 2012 05:24 GMT
#5084
On June 09 2012 14:23 opterown wrote:
yay mkp
Major League Gaming ‏@MLGSC2Scores
MarineKing wins 2-1 over Dream in Pool B. #MLG

Nice 3-0 start :D
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 09 2012 05:24 GMT
#5085
On June 09 2012 14:23 opterown wrote:
yay mkp
Major League Gaming ‏@MLGSC2Scores
MarineKing wins 2-1 over Dream in Pool B. #MLG


I think MKP should just change his name to MLGKP
LotV
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada24 Posts
June 09 2012 05:24 GMT
#5086
What's with the raucous commentary on choya/puma match
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 05:25:46
June 09 2012 05:24 GMT
#5087
On June 09 2012 14:24 jsdk wrote:
Why would you pick off the marauders in that case? Don't marines do roughly the same or less dps as marauders, even against armored? Then marines have less health.

Yes but marauders destroy stalkers have more burst damage so it's harder to blink.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 09 2012 05:25 GMT
#5088
On June 09 2012 14:24 LotV wrote:
What's with the raucous commentary on choya/puma match

whoever this guy is, he's becoming my favorite commentator lol
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 09 2012 05:25 GMT
#5089
Grubby is actually 2nd in the group now. He has the best mapscore compared to Dream and Symbol O_o
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iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
June 09 2012 05:26 GMT
#5090
Why would you expect puma wouldn't see a typical timed OB.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
June 09 2012 05:26 GMT
#5091
A colossus error
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
June 09 2012 05:26 GMT
#5092
Oz vs CrazyMovinG update?
Flash
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45766 Posts
June 09 2012 05:27 GMT
#5093
Yeah MC!!! 1-0 vs. Heart so far!

Heartbreak! </3
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
June 09 2012 05:27 GMT
#5094
MC played that one fantastically
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 09 2012 05:27 GMT
#5095
On June 09 2012 14:24 HotGlueGun wrote:
Is JYP beating Artist considered an upset?

Has Artist ever done anything? JYP is Code A/S.

So no.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
TofuFox
Profile Joined November 2010
374 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 05:28:21
June 09 2012 05:27 GMT
#5096
On June 09 2012 14:23 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 14:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Why is this mlg much smaller than normal?


I don't think it's smaller necessarily, it's just the fewest Foreigners we've ever seen in pool play before. And therefore (in this fans opinion) not quite as exciting as it used to be.


They cut a round off the open bracket (128 players - it's 144 instead of 272), presumably because of the WCS.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45766 Posts
June 09 2012 05:27 GMT
#5097
On June 09 2012 14:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Grubby is actually 2nd in the group now. He has the best mapscore compared to Dream and Symbol O_o


Yeah... it's rather unbelievable.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 09 2012 05:27 GMT
#5098
Come on MC! Bring it to a 2-0!
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
June 09 2012 05:28 GMT
#5099
This guy is awful. Just awful at this casting gig.

User was warned for this post
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
June 09 2012 05:28 GMT
#5100
On June 09 2012 14:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Grubby is actually 2nd in the group now. He has the best mapscore compared to Dream and Symbol O_o

Grubby will be the best foreigner in the world in a couple of months. He's never shown any signs of slowing down. He places better and better in each tournament.

To put things in perspective: Grubby had an 80% win rate in WC3. Flash has a 70% win rate in BW. One could argue that BW had much stronger competition. However, I don't think people get just how good Grubby really was in WC3.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
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