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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 31 2012 11:53 GMT
#2861
On May 31 2012 20:52 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:49 SealOverseer wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:47 Ruscour wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:44 Malaz wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:43 Labbetuss wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:42 LikeAG6 wrote:
Looks like EG > TL.



No, Slayers-EG > TL. Obviously.


stupidity of EG fanboys > all ^^

As anecdotal as this is:

EG in this GSTL: 2-1
Liquid in this GSTL: 3-10


Did EG field Incontrol, Machine, Lzgamer and Demuslim like TL fielded Haypro, TLO and Jinro?


No.


Don't fall for his bait. EG is not a team competing in the GSTL. They are partnered with Slayers which provides the majority of the GSTL team roster whereas Teamliquid is a standalone team. The Slayers/EG roster is much bigger which makes it much harder to predict and snipe certain players. His comparison is not really valid.

As anecdotal as this is


There was no bait there at all. It's just amusing, it obviously doesn't mean anything. It's actually quite funny that people are taking this seriously.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 31 2012 11:53 GMT
#2862
On May 31 2012 20:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:46 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol


What makes him bad?


Well, i really don't like his style. Bad isn't the right word though, i just don't like how he never plays macro game... Always gimmicky play or allin. But that's a subjective preference from me


I usually don't prefer that either. But bad play I mean, just watch MKP he never plays macro either yet none would consider his play bad. Perhaps gimmicky is the right word instead, as you said! :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 11:55:15
May 31 2012 11:53 GMT
#2863
On May 31 2012 20:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On May 31 2012 20:52 Lysanias wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:51 Ruscour wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:49 Lysanias wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:47 Ruscour wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:44 Malaz wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:43 Labbetuss wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:42 LikeAG6 wrote:
Looks like EG > TL.



No, Slayers-EG > TL. Obviously.


stupidity of EG fanboys > all ^^

As anecdotal as this is:

EG in this GSTL: 2-1
Liquid in this GSTL: 3-10


This does deserve your logic though wich infact would mean TSL/slayers 2-1 and EG 0

Which would in fact mean oGs 3-4 and Liquid 0

C'mon, man. We all know it means nothing, no need to nitpick.


You forgot slayers actualy.

He's talking about how only former oGs players (Zenio and Hero) won games for TL


Taeja lost and does add to the score so yes Slayers would count not with EG but for oGs/Liquid. Pay attention please.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 31 2012 11:53 GMT
#2864
It's sad to see TL getting destroyed two times but it was still awesome they took part in the GSTL with such a small lineup. Who would have thought they manage to compete on their own in korea 2 years ago! Next time with all their players and maybe 1 or 2 new players they will do better!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
May 31 2012 11:54 GMT
#2865
On May 31 2012 20:52 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:49 Bashion wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:46 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol


What makes him bad?


Well, i really don't like his style. Bad isn't the right word though, i just don't like how he never plays macro game... Always gimmicky play or allin. But that's a subjective preference from me


Yeah, he never got more than two bases, right?

....................................


I didn't watch today's games, maybe today he played macro cause he knew he was going to win against foreigners no matter what, but from what i always see in his play in Up and downs and code A match, indeed, i never saw him take a third base lol


He beat Taeja and Zenio on macro games.
I've got moves like Jagger
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
May 31 2012 11:54 GMT
#2866
T_T HerO Good try though!
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
May 31 2012 11:54 GMT
#2867
On May 31 2012 20:52 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:46 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol


What makes him bad?


Well, i really don't like his style. Bad isn't the right word though, i just don't like how he never plays macro game... Always gimmicky play or allin. But that's a subjective preference from me


Wth? He 4-kill TL. He played both standard and add in a few gimmicks.
He is a versatile player.

Player that only play macro games all the time * cough Idra cough * are easy to read.
And players that only all-in all the time are easy to dislike.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 11:54:36
May 31 2012 11:54 GMT
#2868
On May 31 2012 20:52 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:49 Bashion wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:46 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol


What makes him bad?


Well, i really don't like his style. Bad isn't the right word though, i just don't like how he never plays macro game... Always gimmicky play or allin. But that's a subjective preference from me


Yeah, he never got more than two bases, right?

....................................


I didn't watch today's games, maybe today he played macro cause he knew he was going to win against foreigners no matter what, but from what i always see in his play in Up and downs and code A match, indeed, i never saw him take a third base lol


I think his style is similar to that of InCa's but better mechanically in both styles. He plays really gimmicky, but he can also play a great macro game and sometimes come out with builds that are pretty top-notch. But there are also other times where he completely falls apart and looks like a total scrub (e.g GSTL Ace match vs MKP(?))
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SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
May 31 2012 11:54 GMT
#2869
On May 31 2012 20:50 SenorChang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol

what does that make the players he beat?


Really bad lol
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
May 31 2012 11:54 GMT
#2870
On May 31 2012 20:53 Gladiator333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:46 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol


What makes him bad?


Well, i really don't like his style. Bad isn't the right word though, i just don't like how he never plays macro game... Always gimmicky play or allin. But that's a subjective preference from me


I usually don't prefer that either. But bad play I mean, just watch MKP he never plays macro either yet none would consider his play bad. Perhaps gimmicky is the right word instead, as you said! :D

wtf marineking plays plentyyy of macro.
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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
May 31 2012 11:55 GMT
#2871
On May 31 2012 20:50 Champloo wrote:
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On May 31 2012 20:47 flakmonkey wrote:
I'm just sad we don't get to see any more of TLO, Jinro and Haypro in korean tournaments now


If you're a fan of these players you should actually be glad you don't have to see them in GSTL anymore. Can't be fun to see them getting crushed every time?

I think TLO could compete with many of them... that was a nice build and execution that he lost to. The moment it got up there he was dead.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
May 31 2012 11:55 GMT
#2872
On May 31 2012 20:54 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:53 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:46 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol


What makes him bad?


Well, i really don't like his style. Bad isn't the right word though, i just don't like how he never plays macro game... Always gimmicky play or allin. But that's a subjective preference from me


I usually don't prefer that either. But bad play I mean, just watch MKP he never plays macro either yet none would consider his play bad. Perhaps gimmicky is the right word instead, as you said! :D

wtf marineking plays plentyyy of macro.

haha i know right? tons of greedy macro games. for a long time he was doing 1 rax FE every matchup
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 31 2012 11:55 GMT
#2873
On May 31 2012 20:54 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:50 SenorChang wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol

what does that make the players he beat?


Really bad lol

Dude, Tassadar just wins stuff. He does really well in Korean Weekly tournaments and stuff like that that's quite stacked. He's not like BitByBit that just all-ins and is too terrible to do anything else, Tassadar is the god of 2base.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
May 31 2012 11:55 GMT
#2874
On May 31 2012 20:53 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:52 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:49 SealOverseer wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:47 Ruscour wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:44 Malaz wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:43 Labbetuss wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:42 LikeAG6 wrote:
Looks like EG > TL.



No, Slayers-EG > TL. Obviously.


stupidity of EG fanboys > all ^^

As anecdotal as this is:

EG in this GSTL: 2-1
Liquid in this GSTL: 3-10


Did EG field Incontrol, Machine, Lzgamer and Demuslim like TL fielded Haypro, TLO and Jinro?


No.


Don't fall for his bait. EG is not a team competing in the GSTL. They are partnered with Slayers which provides the majority of the GSTL team roster whereas Teamliquid is a standalone team. The Slayers/EG roster is much bigger which makes it much harder to predict and snipe certain players. His comparison is not really valid.

Show nested quote +
As anecdotal as this is


There was no bait there at all. It's just amusing, it obviously doesn't mean anything. It's actually quite funny that people are taking this seriously.


Alright.
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winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
May 31 2012 11:56 GMT
#2875
Definitely Liquid needs more protoss players that in GSTL.
Statstics show that, protoss players won more in GSTL this year
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SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
May 31 2012 11:56 GMT
#2876
On May 31 2012 20:53 KiNGxXx wrote:
It's sad to see TL getting destroyed two times but it was still awesome they took part in the GSTL with such a small lineup. Who would have thought they manage to compete on their own in korea 2 years ago! Next time with all their players and maybe 1 or 2 new players they will do better!


Yeah, I'm always happy to see TL competing, even if they lose. I don't care

I think it'd be cool if TL started a rookie program to get a wider/deeper roster; maybe have some tournies in each region to find new potential. I dunno if currently it could be afforded, but it'd be nice to see it happen.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 31 2012 11:56 GMT
#2877
On May 31 2012 20:54 GDbushido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:52 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:46 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol


What makes him bad?


Well, i really don't like his style. Bad isn't the right word though, i just don't like how he never plays macro game... Always gimmicky play or allin. But that's a subjective preference from me


Wth? He 4-kill TL. He played both standard and add in a few gimmicks.
He is a versatile player.

Player that only play macro games all the time * cough Idra cough * are easy to read.
And players that only all-in all the time are easy to dislike.


That is subjective.
Did you even see him all-in in ALL OF THOSE GAMES?
He played macro against Zenio,Taeja and Jinro though he attempted a void ray all-in but failed and instead transition into a phoenix build to macro games.

He used to be an all-in player but now not so much.He played well today.
Play your best
samw
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
England443 Posts
May 31 2012 11:56 GMT
#2878
well done HerO! He avoided TL and the foreigner scene looking like a complete joke.
"You will walk in the garden of his turbulence"
Chilling5pr33
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany518 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 12:01:04
May 31 2012 11:57 GMT
#2879
On May 31 2012 20:56 SgtCoDFish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:53 KiNGxXx wrote:
It's sad to see TL getting destroyed two times but it was still awesome they took part in the GSTL with such a small lineup. Who would have thought they manage to compete on their own in korea 2 years ago! Next time with all their players and maybe 1 or 2 new players they will do better!


Yeah, I'm always happy to see TL competing, even if they lose. I don't care

I think it'd be cool if TL started a rookie program to get a wider/deeper roster; maybe have some tournies in each region to find new potential. I dunno if currently it could be afforded, but it'd be nice to see it happen.


Well TSL will show us some new great players hopefully.

And i think a 3-10 is not very nice but the experience will make TL stronger they will fight back and will be able to come back next season like a baws.

Thanks so much HERO :D
F-
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 31 2012 11:57 GMT
#2880
On May 31 2012 20:56 samw wrote:
well done HerO! He avoided TL and the foreigner scene looking like a complete joke.


Hero doesn't represent the foreigner community, he was code s ro4 last season he's just a really good Korean player.
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