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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 31 2012 11:57 GMT
#2881
On May 31 2012 20:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:54 opterown wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:53 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:46 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol


What makes him bad?


Well, i really don't like his style. Bad isn't the right word though, i just don't like how he never plays macro game... Always gimmicky play or allin. But that's a subjective preference from me


I usually don't prefer that either. But bad play I mean, just watch MKP he never plays macro either yet none would consider his play bad. Perhaps gimmicky is the right word instead, as you said! :D

wtf marineking plays plentyyy of macro.

haha i know right? tons of greedy macro games. for a long time he was doing 1 rax FE every matchup

and he can hold off most early pressures designed to punish it, so he gets away with it haha
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SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
May 31 2012 11:58 GMT
#2882
On May 31 2012 20:56 FakeDeath wrote:
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On May 31 2012 20:54 GDbushido wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:52 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:46 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol


What makes him bad?


Well, i really don't like his style. Bad isn't the right word though, i just don't like how he never plays macro game... Always gimmicky play or allin. But that's a subjective preference from me


Wth? He 4-kill TL. He played both standard and add in a few gimmicks.
He is a versatile player.

Player that only play macro games all the time * cough Idra cough * are easy to read.
And players that only all-in all the time are easy to dislike.


That is subjective.
Did you even see him all-in in ALL OF THOSE GAMES?
He played macro against Zenio,Taeja and Jinro though he attempted a void ray all-in but failed and instead transition into a phoenix build to macro games.

He used to be an all-in player but now not so much.He played well today.


I was talking about old matches and I didn't see today matches, so maybe I will in the future take a closer look at his play to see if it has changed
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 31 2012 11:58 GMT
#2883
On May 31 2012 20:55 Ruscour wrote:
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On May 31 2012 20:54 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:50 SenorChang wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol

what does that make the players he beat?


Really bad lol

Dude, Tassadar just wins stuff. He does really well in Korean Weekly tournaments and stuff like that that's quite stacked. He's not like BitByBit that just all-ins and is too terrible to do anything else, Tassadar is the god of 2base.


Have you been following the Korean scene at all?
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 11:59:37
May 31 2012 11:59 GMT
#2884
On May 31 2012 20:56 samw wrote:
well done HerO! He avoided TL and the foreigner scene looking like a complete joke.


Uhhh not really HerO is a korean unless you considered Hero a foreigner =.=
The foreigner reputation in the GSTL is in shambles after the poor display of TLO,Jinro,Haypro.
Play your best
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12636 Posts
May 31 2012 11:59 GMT
#2885
On May 31 2012 20:56 samw wrote:
well done HerO! He avoided TL and the foreigner scene looking like a complete joke.

I think this made the foreign scene looks even worse.
the only players who have won any games at all are koreans.

TLO played ok but jinro was really bad both games he played
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
May 31 2012 12:00 GMT
#2886
On May 31 2012 20:56 SgtCoDFish wrote:
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On May 31 2012 20:53 KiNGxXx wrote:
It's sad to see TL getting destroyed two times but it was still awesome they took part in the GSTL with such a small lineup. Who would have thought they manage to compete on their own in korea 2 years ago! Next time with all their players and maybe 1 or 2 new players they will do better!


Yeah, I'm always happy to see TL competing, even if they lose. I don't care

I think it'd be cool if TL started a rookie program to get a wider/deeper roster; maybe have some tournies in each region to find new potential. I dunno if currently it could be afforded, but it'd be nice to see it happen.


That would be a cool idea, but considering the last 3 players they bought were all well-known koreans, I think that's not their politics
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 12:01:38
May 31 2012 12:00 GMT
#2887
When was the last time Jinro won a set?

I still remember this.

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MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
May 31 2012 12:00 GMT
#2888
TL needed Ret and Sheth instead of Haypro and TLO, a Jinro that finally stops sticking to a dead metagame and Taeja in full form.
A shame most of this wasn't physically possible, but in any case the team got exposure, a team bonding experience and korean training.

Nazgul did the right choice.
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
May 31 2012 12:00 GMT
#2889
On May 31 2012 20:58 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:55 Ruscour wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:54 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:50 SenorChang wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:45 BlindKill wrote:
how is Tassadar the mvp.... any other player on NSHS can beat the ones he did.

Yes of course they could, but today, Tassadar did it, so he is the mvp today. He is still quite bad imo lol

what does that make the players he beat?


Really bad lol

Dude, Tassadar just wins stuff. He does really well in Korean Weekly tournaments and stuff like that that's quite stacked. He's not like BitByBit that just all-ins and is too terrible to do anything else, Tassadar is the god of 2base.


Have you been following the Korean scene at all?

no u. Tassadar has been mixing his style up lately, and qualified/went surprisingly deep in many preliminaries in the past weeks.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
May 31 2012 12:00 GMT
#2890
not the best performance but TSL lost last season 1-5 and 2-5 as well (vs NSH and IM). Better luck next try.
Kerm
Profile Joined April 2010
France467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 12:02:37
May 31 2012 12:01 GMT
#2891
On May 31 2012 20:59 ETisME wrote:
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On May 31 2012 20:56 samw wrote:
well done HerO! He avoided TL and the foreigner scene looking like a complete joke.

I think this made the foreign scene looks even worse.
the only players who have won any games at all are koreans.

TLO played ok but jinro was really bad both games he played


How does this could make it worse ?
I mean everyone knows than only top top top foreign players ( think Sephano-caliber, and as much as I love them, neither TLO, Jinro nor Haypro are part from them) may be expected to win against most code A/S Koreans.
Nothing new here.

The only good news here is that TL lost before I went ahead and bought a season ticket

Better luck/prep next time, keep it up !!
What i know is that I know nothing - [http://twitter.com/UncleKerm]
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
May 31 2012 12:03 GMT
#2892
On May 31 2012 21:01 Kerm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:59 ETisME wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:56 samw wrote:
well done HerO! He avoided TL and the foreigner scene looking like a complete joke.

I think this made the foreign scene looks even worse.
the only players who have won any games at all are koreans.

TLO played ok but jinro was really bad both games he played


How does this could make it worse ?
I mean everyone knows than only top top top foreign players ( think Sephano-caliber, and as much as I love them, neither TLO, Jinro nor Haypro are part from them) may be expected to win against most code A/S Koreans.
Nothing new here.

The only good news here is that TL lost before I went ahead and bought a season ticket

Better luck/prep next time, keep it up !!


Yep that's true, but I think TLO is improving, he almost qualified for Code A, that would have been great to see a foreigner qualify without being seeded
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 12:06:28
May 31 2012 12:03 GMT
#2893
On May 31 2012 21:01 Kerm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 20:59 ETisME wrote:
On May 31 2012 20:56 samw wrote:
well done HerO! He avoided TL and the foreigner scene looking like a complete joke.

I think this made the foreign scene looks even worse.
the only players who have won any games at all are koreans.

TLO played ok but jinro was really bad both games he played


How does this could make it worse ?
I mean everyone knows than only top top top foreign players ( think Sephano-caliber, and as much as I love them, neither TLO, Jinro nor Haypro are part from them) may be expected to win against most code A/S Koreans.
Nothing new here.

The only good news here is that TL lost before I went ahead and bought a season ticket

Better luck/prep next time, keep it up !!


Uhhh all the foreigner did not won a single game in the GSTL and got roflstomped by Life and Tassadar who are not even the top top top top Korean players.?(MC,DRG,MVP,MKP,etc)

Play your best
JimmyHollow
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom249 Posts
May 31 2012 12:04 GMT
#2894
It's painful to watch Jinro playing... ;(
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
May 31 2012 12:05 GMT
#2895
Judging the foreign scene on players who are mid-level in the EU/NA scene doesn't really make sense. For whatever reason TL has decided to hire mediocre foreigners (Ret is the exception) and excellent Koreans. It's a shame that TL has not done more in order to develop promising young players in the foreign scene, but it is what it is.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 31 2012 12:05 GMT
#2896
On May 31 2012 21:00 TBO wrote:
not the best performance but TSL lost last season 1-5 and 2-5 as well (vs NSH and IM). Better luck next try.


nshoseo got all killed last season too
HarryKlein
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany220 Posts
May 31 2012 12:05 GMT
#2897
Luckily Team Liquid has some Koreans in their roster, so they can atleast win some games/tournaments for them.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 31 2012 12:07 GMT
#2898
I still do think TLO has the level for GSTL. But well, wp NHS.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
May 31 2012 12:07 GMT
#2899
On May 31 2012 21:05 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 21:00 TBO wrote:
not the best performance but TSL lost last season 1-5 and 2-5 as well (vs NSH and IM). Better luck next try.


nshoseo got all killed last season too

Getting all-killed by Bomber is something completely different than almost getting all-killed by Tassadar.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
HarryKlein
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany220 Posts
May 31 2012 12:08 GMT
#2900
On May 31 2012 21:05 m0ck wrote:
Judging the foreign scene on players who are mid-level in the EU/NA scene doesn't really make sense. For whatever reason TL has decided to hire mediocre foreigners (Ret is the exception) and excellent Koreans. It's a shame that TL has not done more in order to develop promising young players in the foreign scene, but it is what it is.


+1

The problem with ret is, that everyone says that he is not practicing that much.
And imo he would be the underdog against every Code A/S player in a tournament.
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