EPTTrue, but usually it's all about those protoss players there.
Unless Bomber has a good day and murders everyone.
[GSTL] 2012 S2 R1 Group A Match 1 - Page 92
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VmY
Netherlands1286 Posts
True, but usually it's all about those protoss players there. Unless Bomber has a good day and murders everyone. | ||
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S_SienZ
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ibo422
Belgium2844 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:29 Ktk wrote: If you have a working brain you should be able to understand. It's the GSL and he has 3 games on the stage, his nice showings are online, he's still KR masters and you're not, etc. etc. T had to in a split second determine whether he wanted to 1) focus fire colossi and die or 2) spread vikings and die, since T was so far behind anyways. Moving on. I wasn't talking about his specific decisions in that engagement because he lost the battle as soon as he picked up the gauntlet in that choke point. Simple as that. His Vikings were poorly positioned (having to fly right over Archons to attack the Colossi) and his bio was wedged in place all nicely packed for the thermal lances. You're quite right he had a split second to make that decision, but he'd lost before he made that decision, that decision was largely irrelevant because he'd messed up something more fundamental way before that. That was a fight he could not win, because he was set up all wrong for it. To give an example: if my Colossi are out in front of my army, my zealots trapped at the back behind stalkers and then I get attacked in a choke by stimmed bio then I didn't die from a minor micro error. I died because I screwed up in preparing for the engagement, being positioned all wrong before it began. Regardless this entire discussion is irrelevant, wasn't even intending to get into a debate about that game in particular or micro in general. My point is I'm staggered by the horrendous mindset of Terrans who cannot accept that Terran pros can screw up. It's mind-blowing that EVERY SINGLE PvT that Protoss wins is somehow proof of Protoss being OP and that the Protoss pro-gamers who ever win a game are somehow being carried by their race. Because clearly it's not balanced until Terran has their 60+% winrate back. Honestly some people. *facepalm* | ||
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:47 Femari wrote: Wait so TL only has 6 players in Korea? Sheth might come over a bit later, he expressed that he wanted to go to korea edit: same for Ret i believe.. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:43 NrGmonk wrote: Maps that are really hard to defend 200 max roaches on are really bad, because they force the Protoss into gimicky play. This map is interesting, however, as 3rd and natural base design make it hard for Protoss to defend the roaches. At the same time, however, the long rush distance and the fact that you kinda have to wrap around the map make it a bit easier. Yeah I liked this map because though it's not a super-easy-to-defend third, it's definitely defensible as just shown. I mean, 6 months - 1 year ago this exact same map might have led to gimmicky play. Protoss players have definitely grown overall, they're definitely more secure in defence into lategame than they used to be. Still a struggle against some 200 max roach timings though, but there aren't many good maps that defending that is easy. People were discussing the 200 roach max + OL drop being near impossible to defend, yet that map looked easier to defend roach max drops than most others. So I guess, you win some you lose some? Maps with different outcomes are nice. People used to hate on crossfire for it's 2 base plays, but it made for exciting games. Sure, imbalanced and what not, but the idea of easy 2 base harder 3rd hasn't lost it's appeal to me as a viewer. Just that most of the maps that did this had other issues. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:47 Femari wrote: Wait so TL only has 6 players in Korea? Five with Taeja at Red Bull if he isn't back in time. Jinro, Haypro, TLO, Hero and Zenio. Facing ZeNex will be tough. ZeNex is extremely deep nowadays and Life, Harrier, Xtreme, Line, etc. are really good. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:48 1ManArmy wrote: Sheth might come over a bit later, he expressed that he wanted to go to korea But in a Bo9 how does that even work | ||
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Rustug
1488 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
Taeja will probably be unavailable since he just competed in RBL. I have to admit looking at today's results, I'm kind of relieved that Puzzle had visa issues, he is just too critical in teamleagues. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:48 1ManArmy wrote: Sheth might come over a bit later, he expressed that he wanted to go to korea Thought the reason he left FXO was coz he didn't like the idea of staying in KR? | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:48 Fionn wrote: Five with Taeja at Red Bull if he isn't back in time. Jinro, Haypro, TLO, Hero and Zenio. Facing ZeNex will be tough. ZeNex is extremely deep nowadays and Life, Harrier, Xtreme, Line, etc. are really good. Liquid will only need to send HerO and that's it tho  | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
 ((( I predicted him to win a gls in 2012, hope it will happen | ||
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saiyogo
Vietnam136 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:49 S_SienZ wrote: Thought the reason he left FXO was coz he didn't like the idea of staying in KR? Things changed I guess. I do recall hearing that the FXO living conditions were quite tough for a while, so that could have motivated his return. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:50 Yaki wrote: Puzzle why u not play like dat in UnD ? ((( I predicted him to win a gls in 2012, hope it will happencoz it's the... Up and Downs YEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHH | ||
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
You need 5 players to play a Bo9 so I don't see your problem. | ||
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:49 S_SienZ wrote: Thought the reason he left FXO was coz he didn't like the idea of staying in KR? From TL article: For the players not currently living in Korea, can we hope for them to make an appearance if circumstances work out for them to travel there? Victor GoossensBoth Sheth and Ret occasionally express a desire to go to Korea for training, so I could definitely see something being possible in the future. These things are so much about planning and timing that it is hard to say something right now. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:51 Serinox wrote: You need 5 players to play a Bo9 so I don't see your problem. You think you'd need 9 players in this format but okay I guess it's okay to give teams an advantage by having a more concentrated lineup. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On May 28 2012 21:49 S_SienZ wrote: Thought the reason he left FXO was coz he didn't like the idea of staying in KR? He didn't like being in a crammed team-house. The TL house should be reasonable since theres currently TLO, Jinro, HerO, HayprO, SuperNoVa, and HuK (well he's in the US right now) | ||
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