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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1061
Let's gogogo Seed! Need an LG-IM toss in Code S, buddy.
Long live the King of Wings
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1062
Just to clarify, Virus got combat shields at ~25:30. If he had gotten it earlier, he probably would have won.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1063
On May 24 2012 21:32 nkr wrote:
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On May 24 2012 21:29 Killmouse wrote:
glad for zenio, but so hard to watch as terran .... fungals so cost effectiv


fungal is pretty good against marines without combat shields ye


He had combat shields at 25mins but he got it very very very late that i can say cost him the game
Play your best
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1064
GOGO SEED

FunkQue
Profile Joined October 2010
United States165 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1065
Blast Beats = Hype
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1066
On May 24 2012 21:10 Tsubbi wrote:
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On May 24 2012 21:07 MrCon wrote:
Dat ferrarilord.


i always wonder what kind of ferraris the creator of that term has seen in his life Oo

That's the joke !
Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1067
OMG I just now looked at the results, why did Hack get such bad results? I was hoping that he would absolutely tear up Nerve issues I guess.
Rooting for Tree now I guess, I just love those new "up-and-coming" aggressive Terrans
"Good luck." "I don't need luck. I have ammo."
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1068
On May 24 2012 21:31 Drazerk wrote:
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On May 24 2012 21:31 hewley wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:29 Drazerk wrote:
and at the end of the day Virus lost because he didn't build ravens


or click on the combat shields button


He got it 30 mins in


Part of his build... I'm pretty sure... No way that could be a mistake xD
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1069
On May 24 2012 21:31 Thrombozyt wrote:
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On May 24 2012 21:30 clusen wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:28 s3rp wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:26 Drazerk wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:25 s3rp wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:23 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:22 s3rp wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:21 raga4ka wrote:
Virus build some ravens with that gas !!


For what ? Ravens are only useful is the opponent has mass air...


Morrow disagrees..


Maybe to hit Infestors anything else does way too much friendly fire with Seeker since those units are melee and super fast . PDD is completely useless against anything but Corrupters and Autoturrets are pretty gimmicky.


PDD beats everything zerg has?


PDD ? Against what ? Queens , Hydras and Corruptors are all units that are effected ...

And mutas/spores, so everything except infested terrans that can actually shoot air.


Uhm.. those vikings dieing to fungal beg to differ...

No, they beg you to spread them, you need 4 fungals to kill a single viking.

Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 24 2012 12:33 GMT
#1070
On May 24 2012 21:32 nkr wrote:
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On May 24 2012 21:29 Killmouse wrote:
glad for zenio, but so hard to watch as terran .... fungals so cost effectiv


fungal is pretty good against marines without combat shields ye

he had combat shield later on
yo
Yipsta
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom40 Posts
May 24 2012 12:34 GMT
#1071
On May 24 2012 21:32 bigbeau wrote:
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On May 24 2012 21:23 Drazerk wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:22 bigbeau wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:21 Thrillz wrote:
So much for BCs/Terran T3 being good


Yeah because 4 unprotected tier 3 units from any race are so good.


Four unprotected mother ships are pretty good


>.> first off, cheater. second off, not really lol. unless they cloak each other...do they? even so, 10 corruptors would take them out. which would be 1600/1600 of resources vs 1500/1000. Tier 3 units are awful unprotected. Colossus, brood lords, ultras, carriers, battlecruisers, thors are all taken out extremely cost efficiently if theyre by themselves.


In fact i would say Thors are the best self sufficient tier 3 unit in that list
zelgadissan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States389 Posts
May 24 2012 12:34 GMT
#1072
I don't understand the logic of getting a Fusion Core/Battlecruisers but not a Ghost Academy against so many infestors. Virus knows the game a lot better than me of course, just still boggles my mind.

Gogo Zenio, finish strong and get that S
"It's like Detroit in there" "Lots of shootings and damaged buildings" - Artosis/Tasteless
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
May 24 2012 12:34 GMT
#1073
On May 24 2012 21:31 tree.hugger wrote:
Man, Zenio's map vision was so superb that game. Those burrowed zerglings never got any mention from Wolf and Khaldor, but they saved the game for Zenio on countless occasions. I was going to punch a duck if Z lost after spotting so many drops.


Eh, not really. He spotted the ground movement of the Terran army by burrowed zerglings, which was awesome. But his drop awareness was underwhelming because he got no overlord spread to provide vision around his bases.
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
May 24 2012 12:34 GMT
#1074
On May 24 2012 21:33 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:32 nkr wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:29 Killmouse wrote:
glad for zenio, but so hard to watch as terran .... fungals so cost effectiv


fungal is pretty good against marines without combat shields ye

he had combat shield later on

Plus they need the same amount of fungals to die regardless if they have the shield or not.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 24 2012 12:34 GMT
#1075
On May 24 2012 21:33 LimitSEA wrote:
Let's gogogo Seed! Need an LG-IM toss in Code S, buddy.


Might have LG-IMSeed and LG-IM-SK_MC!
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
May 24 2012 12:35 GMT
#1076
On May 24 2012 21:34 Yipsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:32 bigbeau wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:23 Drazerk wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:22 bigbeau wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:21 Thrillz wrote:
So much for BCs/Terran T3 being good


Yeah because 4 unprotected tier 3 units from any race are so good.


Four unprotected mother ships are pretty good


>.> first off, cheater. second off, not really lol. unless they cloak each other...do they? even so, 10 corruptors would take them out. which would be 1600/1600 of resources vs 1500/1000. Tier 3 units are awful unprotected. Colossus, brood lords, ultras, carriers, battlecruisers, thors are all taken out extremely cost efficiently if theyre by themselves.


In fact i would say Thors are the best self sufficient tier 3 unit in that list


They also probably offer the least if you sprinkle in just a few.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
May 24 2012 12:35 GMT
#1077
On May 24 2012 21:34 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:33 LimitSEA wrote:
Let's gogogo Seed! Need an LG-IM toss in Code S, buddy.


Might have LG-IMSeed and LG-IM-SK_MC!



only for GSTL I think
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 12:44:35
May 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#1078
On May 24 2012 21:34 Thrombozyt wrote:
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On May 24 2012 21:33 Killmouse wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:32 nkr wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:29 Killmouse wrote:
glad for zenio, but so hard to watch as terran .... fungals so cost effectiv


fungal is pretty good against marines without combat shields ye

he had combat shield later on

Plus they need the same amount of fungals to die regardless if they have the shield or not.


Don't have math or anything to back me up, but I would bet that it would take an extra fungal with medivacs healing per second. It might not but seems likely.

Edit: Yeah, medivacs heal 9 hp/sec. Fungals do 30 damage over 4 secs. Marines have 45 health w/o combat and 55 with.

An issue arises in that medivacs heal 9 hp/sec focusing a single marine, but they spread out their healing over the army. They do heal 3 hp every 'heal', so lets assume the marines getting healed for 3 hp/3 sec or 1 hp/sec since thats about the time it takes for a medivac to heal all the other marines.

Without combat shield: Marine gets fungaled, takes 30 damage, gets healed for 4 hp. Has 19 Health Remaining. Gets fungaled again, dies.

With combat shield: Marines gets fungaled, takes 30 damage, gets healed for 4 hp. Has 29 Health remaining. Gets fungaled again,Has 3 health remaining, thats an extra fungal.

Obviously some crude math with the medivac healing rate, but the medivac would only have to heal the marine twice within the 8 seconds ( Each heal is 3 HP) to live with 1 life with combat shield.
Butterz
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
688 Posts
May 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#1079
On May 24 2012 21:33 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:32 nkr wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:29 Killmouse wrote:
glad for zenio, but so hard to watch as terran .... fungals so cost effectiv


fungal is pretty good against marines without combat shields ye

he had combat shield later on


he had BCs out before he started researching combat shield .
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#1080
On May 24 2012 21:33 Plague1503 wrote:
OMG I just now looked at the results, why did Hack get such bad results? I was hoping that he would absolutely tear up Nerve issues I guess.
Rooting for Tree now I guess, I just love those new "up-and-coming" aggressive Terrans


He went to kill MC's Nexus. Went well, but he didn't prepare enough for the obvious counterattack...
He went bio/tank vs heavy mech and kept having bad trades and semi-awkward positions.

Didn't see the game against Seed :'/
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
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