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On May 21 2012 14:12 Walitgon wrote: My views on what will happen in the games tonight!
JYP ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. JYP is competent vs zerg, having recently beaten July and Fruitdealer. But most of his wins are against lesser zergs such as Seal and Life. Notably, he has performed against the aggressive zergs, July and Fruitdealer.
Against v TERRAN. JYP has 8-28 record against Terran, and of his last 22 games against Terran, he has lost 20. That’s less than a 10% winrate over the last 22 games against Terran.
Against v PROTOSS. JYP has a strong record against protoss. He has recently beaten Hero, SaSe, HongUn, anypro, Vines and Tester. However, he loses against the best, such as Alicia and Oz (and has lost to Hero in as many games as he’s beat him).
Seal and life are "lesser" than July and Fruitdealer??
not many zergs are ahead of them except symbol, nestea, leenock and drg maybe curious??
neither of them have much exposure but they are seriously highly rated among korean players
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Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
Aww gotta purchase season 3 ;; its my mates turn to buy it and he wont be up till ermm like 2hours into it xD
GL JYP, sick group though imo would watch in SQ i think it will be that good
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Naming Seal or Life as 'lesser' zergs auto-loses any credibility the rest of that post may have gained you.
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Norway25712 Posts
On May 21 2012 16:43 Fionn wrote: I wonder if they'll change suit colors. S1 was black with red tie. S2 was gray with green tie. Khaldor easily looks more badass in black suit red tie.
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Seal and life are "lesser" than July and Fruitdealer??
not many zergs are ahead of them except symbol, nestea, leenock and drg maybe curious??
neither of them have much exposure but they are seriously highly rated among korean players
TBH you're just much more knowledgeable than me :D TT
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Hoping for Byun and either JYP or July.
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There isnt a free stream right? You need to buy a ticket?
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Ghostking, I believe in you! Something must be right if everybody in the Prime team claims that he is one of the top 3 of the team!
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On May 21 2012 17:13 SupLilSon wrote: There isnt a free stream right? You need to buy a ticket?
LQ stream is free
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On May 21 2012 16:43 Fionn wrote: I wonder if they'll change suit colors. S1 was black with red tie. S2 was gray with green tie.
I think we all know where you're going with this one;
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is there a pregame show for the UnD or is there none just like in code a?
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On May 21 2012 17:21 PradamadeR wrote: is there a pregame show for the UnD or is there none just like in code a?
Pretty sure there's none.
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Norway25712 Posts
Think they just air some K-Pop before the show starts.
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I consider July an easy advance depending on what we see. That said I want to see some of his all ins.
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United States23455 Posts
Anyways, would be surprised if there is new graphics/theme. They usually save that for the first day of Code S. We'll probably get new music as well.
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Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg!
Nestea needs to advance. July please advance as well.
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On May 21 2012 14:12 Walitgon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +My views on what will happen in the games tonight!
JYP ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. JYP is competent vs zerg, having recently beaten July and Fruitdealer. But most of his wins are against lesser zergs such as Seal and Life. Notably, he has performed against the aggressive zergs, July and Fruitdealer.
Against v TERRAN. JYP has 8-28 record against Terran, and of his last 22 games against Terran, he has lost 20. That’s less than a 10% winrate over the last 22 games against Terran.
Against v PROTOSS. JYP has a strong record against protoss. He has recently beaten Hero, SaSe, HongUn, anypro, Vines and Tester. However, he loses against the best, such as Alicia and Oz (and has lost to Hero in as many games as he’s beat him).
GHOSTKING ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. Ghostking isn’t the best zerg killer. He’s racked up plenty of losses against pretty poor zergs, including Seal, Terious, and Monster, as well as better zergs, like LosirA, Leenock and Zenio.
Against v PROTOSS. Ghostking has recently been crushing the absolute best of toss. Wins include against Choya, PartinG (best PvTer in the world), AcE, Squirtle (GSL finalist) and Oz (former would-be successor to MC as King of Toss).
JULY ASSESSMENT
Against ZERG. July has a poor record against zerg. I suspect that might be because he plays too aggressive, and that can be exploited by simply getting a spine up early and getting defensive banes. A quick +1 or 1-1 roach timing could kill him off two base.
Against TERRAN. July wins and loses against the best and worse. Wins include against MVP and MKP although he’s lost to top terrans in equal numbers too.
Against PROTOSS. July is pretty solid against protoss with wins against HerO and Genius as of late. Having said that, he also recently lost to JYP.
NESTEA
Against ZERG. Nestea is ridiculously solid against zerg, with a 28-6 record, and recently with wins over DRG, Idra, LosirA and July. Of course, he loses some, but it’s ZvZ.
Against TERRAN. Nestea has immense experience against Code S terrans and has won and lost against the best. Lately he has faltered and made awfully poor decisions, including in his last games against Keen.
Against PROTOSS. Nestea has a great record against protoss too, with a 24-9 record. He’s beaten InCa, Genuis, Naniwa and HongUn lately, although he’s also lost to MC, Genius, HuK and tails.
LURE ASSESSMENT
The guy is new, and has hardly any games on record. He’s lost more than he’s won but that’s no surprise, especially seeing as some of the games are against the best. He recently beat InCa twice, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the mirror is his best matchup.
1. JYP – NESTEA
Although JYP is competent against zerg, he has performed better against cheesy ergs. Against a strong macro zerg, who is resistant to cheese and strong at all stages of the game, and despite Nestea’s slight decline as of late, I favour Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea. Confidence interval: 75%
2. JULY – LURE
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to July.
Prediction: July Confidence interval: 60%
3. JYP – GHOSTKING
Given JYP’s absolutely abysmal record against T, and GhostKing’s absolutely stunning record against P, GhostKing has this without a doubt.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 90%
4. JULY – NESTEA
July has a shot against Nestea but Nestea is just too good, and solid at ZvZ too. I doubt we’ll see hatch openings and I think Nestea will simply outplay July in ling and potentially bling fights, and squeeze a few extra drones for a win. On top of this, in their last encounter, Nestea beat July.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
5. LURE – GHOSTKING
Not only is Lure the natural underdog, but Ghostking is an absolute protoss killer.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 100%.
6. JULY – JYP
JYP is competent vs zerg and has recently beaten July. Yet July is also solid against protoss. I marginally give the edge to JYP, with little confidence:
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 25%
7. LURE – NESTEA
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
8. JULY – GHOSTKING
Although GhostKing isn’t amazing against zerg, July has been playing odd against terran as of late. Silly mutalisk choices, a refusal to get roaches, and excessive banelings instead of lings have lost him games. GhostKing is likely to win.
Prediction: GhostKing. Confidence interval: 85%
9. LURE – JYP
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to JYP, and especially considering JYP’s excellent record against protoss.
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 85%
10. NESTEA - GHOSTKING
Although both solid players, Nestea is the favourite, particularly because of Ghostking’s weaker record against zergs. There is a chance that Nestea will falter as against Keen, and get killed by hellions. Yet, I think he’ll have smartened up since that debacle.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 70%
Summary by confidence intervals:
1. GK > Lure – 100% 2. GK > JYP – 90% 3. GK > July – 85% 4. JYP > Lure – 85% 5. Nestea > July – 80% 6. Nestea > Lure – 80% 7. Nestea > JYP – 75% 8. Nestea > GK – 70% 9. July > Lure – 60% 10. JYP > July – 25%
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well shit I guess I have to step my predictions up >_>
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Norway25712 Posts
JYP <Entombed Valley> NesTea July <Metropolis> Lure JYP <Dual Sight> GhostKing July <Ohana> Nestea Lure <Atlantis Spaceship> GhostKing July <Cloud Kingdom> JYP Lure <Antiga Shipyard> NesTea July <Daybreak> GhostKing Lure <Antiga Shipyard> JYP NesTea <Ohana> GhostKing
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United States97274 Posts
Byun and anyone else because it doesnt matter
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I'm more interested in what maps they add/remove for S3 compared to any production stuff really. Dual Sight needs to go.
I hope they give this map a try, it was fun in the Korean Weekly.
Atlantis Spacebear might be too anti-terran as well, but I think it deserves one more season at least.
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