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ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
May 21 2012 07:49 GMT
#41
On May 21 2012 14:12 Walitgon wrote:
My views on what will happen in the games tonight!

JYP ASSESSMENT

Against v ZERG. JYP is competent vs zerg, having recently beaten July and Fruitdealer. But most of his wins are against lesser zergs such as Seal and Life. Notably, he has performed against the aggressive zergs, July and Fruitdealer.

Against v TERRAN. JYP has 8-28 record against Terran, and of his last 22 games against Terran, he has lost 20. That’s less than a 10% winrate over the last 22 games against Terran.

Against v PROTOSS. JYP has a strong record against protoss. He has recently beaten Hero, SaSe, HongUn, anypro, Vines and Tester. However, he loses against the best, such as Alicia and Oz (and has lost to Hero in as many games as he’s beat him).




Seal and life are "lesser" than July and Fruitdealer??

not many zergs are ahead of them except symbol, nestea, leenock and drg maybe curious??

neither of them have much exposure but they are seriously highly rated among korean players
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 21 2012 08:01 GMT
#42
Aww gotta purchase season 3 ;; its my mates turn to buy it and he wont be up till ermm like 2hours into it xD

GL JYP, sick group though imo would watch in SQ i think it will be that good
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FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
May 21 2012 08:08 GMT
#43
Naming Seal or Life as 'lesser' zergs auto-loses any credibility the rest of that post may have gained you.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 21 2012 08:08 GMT
#44
On May 21 2012 16:43 Fionn wrote:
I wonder if they'll change suit colors. S1 was black with red tie. S2 was gray with green tie.

Khaldor easily looks more badass in black suit red tie.
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Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
May 21 2012 08:08 GMT
#45


Seal and life are "lesser" than July and Fruitdealer??

not many zergs are ahead of them except symbol, nestea, leenock and drg maybe curious??

neither of them have much exposure but they are seriously highly rated among korean players


TBH you're just much more knowledgeable than me :D TT
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 21 2012 08:09 GMT
#46
Hoping for Byun and either JYP or July.



SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 21 2012 08:13 GMT
#47
There isnt a free stream right? You need to buy a ticket?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 21 2012 08:14 GMT
#48
Ghostking, I believe in you! Something must be right if everybody in the Prime team claims that he is one of the top 3 of the team!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 21 2012 08:18 GMT
#49
On May 21 2012 17:13 SupLilSon wrote:
There isnt a free stream right? You need to buy a ticket?


LQ stream is free
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
May 21 2012 08:19 GMT
#50
On May 21 2012 16:43 Fionn wrote:
I wonder if they'll change suit colors. S1 was black with red tie. S2 was gray with green tie.


I think we all know where you're going with this one;

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PradamadeR
Profile Joined February 2012
123 Posts
May 21 2012 08:21 GMT
#51
is there a pregame show for the UnD or is there none just like in code a?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 21 2012 08:25 GMT
#52
On May 21 2012 17:21 PradamadeR wrote:
is there a pregame show for the UnD or is there none just like in code a?


Pretty sure there's none.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 21 2012 08:26 GMT
#53
Think they just air some K-Pop before the show starts.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 21 2012 08:26 GMT
#54
I consider July an easy advance depending on what we see. That said I want to see some of his all ins.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 21 2012 08:27 GMT
#55
Anyways, would be surprised if there is new graphics/theme. They usually save that for the first day of Code S. We'll probably get new music as well.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2012 08:27 GMT
#56
Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg! Zerg!

Nestea needs to advance.
July please advance as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 21 2012 08:30 GMT
#57
On May 21 2012 14:12 Walitgon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
My views on what will happen in the games tonight!

JYP ASSESSMENT

Against v ZERG. JYP is competent vs zerg, having recently beaten July and Fruitdealer. But most of his wins are against lesser zergs such as Seal and Life. Notably, he has performed against the aggressive zergs, July and Fruitdealer.

Against v TERRAN. JYP has 8-28 record against Terran, and of his last 22 games against Terran, he has lost 20. That’s less than a 10% winrate over the last 22 games against Terran.

Against v PROTOSS. JYP has a strong record against protoss. He has recently beaten Hero, SaSe, HongUn, anypro, Vines and Tester. However, he loses against the best, such as Alicia and Oz (and has lost to Hero in as many games as he’s beat him).



GHOSTKING ASSESSMENT

Against v ZERG. Ghostking isn’t the best zerg killer. He’s racked up plenty of losses against pretty poor zergs, including Seal, Terious, and Monster, as well as better zergs, like LosirA, Leenock and Zenio.

Against v PROTOSS. Ghostking has recently been crushing the absolute best of toss. Wins include against Choya, PartinG (best PvTer in the world), AcE, Squirtle (GSL finalist) and Oz (former would-be successor to MC as King of Toss).



JULY ASSESSMENT

Against ZERG. July has a poor record against zerg. I suspect that might be because he plays too aggressive, and that can be exploited by simply getting a spine up early and getting defensive banes. A quick +1 or 1-1 roach timing could kill him off two base.

Against TERRAN. July wins and loses against the best and worse. Wins include against MVP and MKP although he’s lost to top terrans in equal numbers too.

Against PROTOSS. July is pretty solid against protoss with wins against HerO and Genius as of late. Having said that, he also recently lost to JYP.



NESTEA

Against ZERG. Nestea is ridiculously solid against zerg, with a 28-6 record, and recently with wins over DRG, Idra, LosirA and July. Of course, he loses some, but it’s ZvZ.

Against TERRAN. Nestea has immense experience against Code S terrans and has won and lost against the best. Lately he has faltered and made awfully poor decisions, including in his last games against Keen.

Against PROTOSS. Nestea has a great record against protoss too, with a 24-9 record. He’s beaten InCa, Genuis, Naniwa and HongUn lately, although he’s also lost to MC, Genius, HuK and tails.



LURE ASSESSMENT

The guy is new, and has hardly any games on record. He’s lost more than he’s won but that’s no surprise, especially seeing as some of the games are against the best. He recently beat InCa twice, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the mirror is his best matchup.



1. JYP – NESTEA


Although JYP is competent against zerg, he has performed better against cheesy ergs. Against a strong macro zerg, who is resistant to cheese and strong at all stages of the game, and despite Nestea’s slight decline as of late, I favour Nestea.

Prediction: Nestea.
Confidence interval: 75%



2. JULY – LURE


With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to July.

Prediction: July
Confidence interval: 60%



3. JYP – GHOSTKING


Given JYP’s absolutely abysmal record against T, and GhostKing’s absolutely stunning record against P, GhostKing has this without a doubt.

Prediction: Ghostking.
Confidence interval: 90%



4. JULY – NESTEA


July has a shot against Nestea but Nestea is just too good, and solid at ZvZ too. I doubt we’ll see hatch openings and I think Nestea will simply outplay July in ling and potentially bling fights, and squeeze a few extra drones for a win. On top of this, in their last encounter, Nestea beat July.

Prediction: Nestea
Confidence interval: 80%



5. LURE – GHOSTKING


Not only is Lure the natural underdog, but Ghostking is an absolute protoss killer.

Prediction: Ghostking.
Confidence interval: 100%.



6. JULY – JYP


JYP is competent vs zerg and has recently beaten July. Yet July is also solid against protoss. I marginally give the edge to JYP, with little confidence:

Prediction: JYP
Confidence interval: 25%



7. LURE – NESTEA


With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to Nestea.

Prediction: Nestea
Confidence interval: 80%



8. JULY – GHOSTKING


Although GhostKing isn’t amazing against zerg, July has been playing odd against terran as of late. Silly mutalisk choices, a refusal to get roaches, and excessive banelings instead of lings have lost him games. GhostKing is likely to win.

Prediction: GhostKing.
Confidence interval: 85%



9. LURE – JYP


With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to JYP, and especially considering JYP’s excellent record against protoss.

Prediction: JYP
Confidence interval: 85%



10. NESTEA - GHOSTKING


Although both solid players, Nestea is the favourite, particularly because of Ghostking’s weaker record against zergs. There is a chance that Nestea will falter as against Keen, and get killed by hellions. Yet, I think he’ll have smartened up since that debacle.

Prediction: Nestea
Confidence interval: 70%



Summary by confidence intervals:

1. GK > Lure – 100%
2. GK > JYP – 90%
3. GK > July – 85%
4. JYP > Lure – 85%
5. Nestea > July – 80%
6. Nestea > Lure – 80%
7. Nestea > JYP – 75%
8. Nestea > GK – 70%
9. July > Lure – 60%
10. JYP > July – 25%



...

well shit I guess I have to step my predictions up >_>
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 21 2012 08:30 GMT
#58
JYP <Entombed Valley> NesTea
July <Metropolis> Lure
JYP <Dual Sight> GhostKing
July <Ohana> Nestea
Lure <Atlantis Spaceship> GhostKing
July <Cloud Kingdom> JYP
Lure <Antiga Shipyard> NesTea
July <Daybreak> GhostKing
Lure <Antiga Shipyard> JYP
NesTea <Ohana> GhostKing
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 21 2012 08:30 GMT
#59
Byun and anyone else because it doesnt matter
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 08:33:13
May 21 2012 08:31 GMT
#60
I'm more interested in what maps they add/remove for S3 compared to any production stuff really. Dual Sight needs to go.

I hope they give this map a try, it was fun in the Korean Weekly.

Atlantis Spacebear might be too anti-terran as well, but I think it deserves one more season at least.
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