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Man with a Plan
Profile Joined January 2012
United States401 Posts
May 19 2012 19:42 GMT
#801
Stephano vs. MC is going to be earth shaterring.
Yo!
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 19:43 GMT
#802
On May 20 2012 04:41 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 04:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:38 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:37 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:36 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:35 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:34 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Bly vs HuK game 3 on TDA, bly went for an early pool (8 or 10?) huk has a cannon up and a full wall in with a nexus 50% done, bly has a natural on the way, but with i think a smaller drone count (its only POV no observer)

8:00 a fast lair from bly, huk on 2gas pushing out with a zealot/stalker. no more gates or tech from him, still on 2 gas.bly now going up to 4gas.

9:00 huk now on 4gates 4 gas and a robo, bly with a macro hatch but no third yet, positions are huk top right bly bottom right (TDA) so hard third for bly to take

11:00 huk getting blink and hallu scouting, walling off his natural ramp with gates to take his third and turtle up it looks like. bly has teched to infestors and is finally taking a third

12:00 bly doing well with creep spread, has infestors out, huk taking his third i cant tell if collosus tech yet, dont think so, bly has scouted huks third and is moving out to attack it it seems

13:00 bly tries to burrow his infestors into the third, but huk has an observer and blinks onto them and kills 6 infestors for free ! with similar timed thirds huk has a HUGE lead in this deciding game 3

15:00 huk adding on a lot of gates, and he does have collouss tech, and i assume +3 attack on the way, huk with a 10 supply lead (130-120) moves out to clear some creep while taking a 4th, bly still on 3 base (might have hive tech, didnt get a good look)

17:00 okay yup hive is done, and broodlords will be here soon a burrowed ling denies huks fourth, but huk has map control, not sure if he has seen the BL tech yet, no sign of a stargate.

19:00 huk sees the broods ! he has a fleat beacon on the way, and +3 is done. also his fourth is up and he denies blys fourth mothership is started and more gates added on.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 19:43:35
May 19 2012 19:43 GMT
#803
I'm glad Socke won! I like Thorzain as well however, and a rematch against DRG would be cool, but I'm hoping Socke can pull off the upset against DRG now.

Edit: And Grubby beat Goody? :D Great stuff.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 19 2012 19:44 GMT
#804
On May 20 2012 04:39 Azarkon wrote:
Huk playing a macro game vs. Bly.


Ugh, these games, I'm getting really sick of Tal'darim in tournaments, I just don't want to see it anymore.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
May 19 2012 19:44 GMT
#805
On May 20 2012 04:39 Dosey wrote:
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On May 20 2012 04:37 xrapture wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:32 Jaegeru wrote:
According to the community as soon as a newly signed EG player doesn't have a 100% record it's the EG curse or is slumping :p


Jyp was almost immediately knocked into Code B upon signing. Puma has not matched his aura that he had when he won NASL S1. Idra has a 30% winrate this year, incontrol and machine aren't very good frankly (no knock on them, just compared to other foreigners, and since Thorzain's acquistion from EG he has gotten 4-0ed by Lucifron and now had a poor showing for someone considered (king of the north, best foreigner in the world).

Idk if it's a curse or what, but EG is in a free fall.

Or how about an extremely skilled EU protoss on a hot streak was simply the better player today?


Thorzain has only won two major tournaments - Dreamhack and TSL3. It really isn't that surprising to me that he didn't get that far here. He's an excellent player, but not a consistent tournament winner.

As for the "EG curse", maybe it applies to other members, but a lot of their pickups just aren't that phenomenal. Both JYP and PuMa aren't that well rounded compared to other Korean players. IdrA and HuK thrived when the scene and metagame were still developing. I don't see it so much as a curse, but more of that they just don't have a very strong roster compared to other teams. Other teams certainly lack EG's depth, but they also have players that consistently make the finals or semi-finals - look at SK and MC.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 19:44 GMT
#806
On May 20 2012 04:43 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 04:41 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:38 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:37 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:36 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:35 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:34 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Bly vs HuK game 3 on TDA, bly went for an early pool (8 or 10?) huk has a cannon up and a full wall in with a nexus 50% done, bly has a natural on the way, but with i think a smaller drone count (its only POV no observer)

8:00 a fast lair from bly, huk on 2gas pushing out with a zealot/stalker. no more gates or tech from him, still on 2 gas.bly now going up to 4gas.

9:00 huk now on 4gates 4 gas and a robo, bly with a macro hatch but no third yet, positions are huk top right bly bottom right (TDA) so hard third for bly to take

11:00 huk getting blink and hallu scouting, walling off his natural ramp with gates to take his third and turtle up it looks like. bly has teched to infestors and is finally taking a third

12:00 bly doing well with creep spread, has infestors out, huk taking his third i cant tell if collosus tech yet, dont think so, bly has scouted huks third and is moving out to attack it it seems

13:00 bly tries to burrow his infestors into the third, but huk has an observer and blinks onto them and kills 6 infestors for free ! with similar timed thirds huk has a HUGE lead in this deciding game 3

15:00 huk adding on a lot of gates, and he does have collouss tech, and i assume +3 attack on the way, huk with a 10 supply lead (130-120) moves out to clear some creep while taking a 4th, bly still on 3 base (might have hive tech, didnt get a good look)

17:00 okay yup hive is done, and broodlords will be here soon a burrowed ling denies huks fourth, but huk has map control, not sure if he has seen the BL tech yet, no sign of a stargate.

19:00 huk sees the broods ! he has a fleat beacon on the way, and +3 is done. also his fourth is up and he denies blys fourth mothership is started and more gates added on.

22:00 archons and a mothership out for huk, bly takes a hidden fourth but huk scouts it and zealots are on the way and will surely kill it. bly starting a spine crawler/creep march towards huks side of the map.

*Stehano and MC are setting up
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
May 19 2012 19:45 GMT
#807
On May 20 2012 04:39 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 04:37 xrapture wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:32 Jaegeru wrote:
According to the community as soon as a newly signed EG player doesn't have a 100% record it's the EG curse or is slumping :p


Jyp was almost immediately knocked into Code B upon signing. Puma has not matched his aura that he had when he won NASL S1. Idra has a 30% winrate this year, incontrol and machine aren't very good frankly (no knock on them, just compared to other foreigners, and since Thorzain's acquistion from EG he has gotten 4-0ed by Lucifron and now had a poor showing for someone considered (king of the north, best foreigner in the world).

Idk if it's a curse or what, but EG is in a free fall.

Puma hasn't been as good since the 1-1-1 lost it's heat and I be;ieve Naniwa and Stephano are probably better contenders for best foreigner than Thorzain.

Puma is one of the most consistent sc2 players in the scene right now...>_> He basically always does well at every international event he goes into.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 19:45 GMT
#808
On May 20 2012 04:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 04:43 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:41 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:38 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:37 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:36 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:35 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:34 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Bly vs HuK game 3 on TDA, bly went for an early pool (8 or 10?) huk has a cannon up and a full wall in with a nexus 50% done, bly has a natural on the way, but with i think a smaller drone count (its only POV no observer)

8:00 a fast lair from bly, huk on 2gas pushing out with a zealot/stalker. no more gates or tech from him, still on 2 gas.bly now going up to 4gas.

9:00 huk now on 4gates 4 gas and a robo, bly with a macro hatch but no third yet, positions are huk top right bly bottom right (TDA) so hard third for bly to take

11:00 huk getting blink and hallu scouting, walling off his natural ramp with gates to take his third and turtle up it looks like. bly has teched to infestors and is finally taking a third

12:00 bly doing well with creep spread, has infestors out, huk taking his third i cant tell if collosus tech yet, dont think so, bly has scouted huks third and is moving out to attack it it seems

13:00 bly tries to burrow his infestors into the third, but huk has an observer and blinks onto them and kills 6 infestors for free ! with similar timed thirds huk has a HUGE lead in this deciding game 3

15:00 huk adding on a lot of gates, and he does have collouss tech, and i assume +3 attack on the way, huk with a 10 supply lead (130-120) moves out to clear some creep while taking a 4th, bly still on 3 base (might have hive tech, didnt get a good look)

17:00 okay yup hive is done, and broodlords will be here soon a burrowed ling denies huks fourth, but huk has map control, not sure if he has seen the BL tech yet, no sign of a stargate.

19:00 huk sees the broods ! he has a fleat beacon on the way, and +3 is done. also his fourth is up and he denies blys fourth mothership is started and more gates added on.

22:00 archons and a mothership out for huk, bly takes a hidden fourth but huk scouts it and zealots are on the way and will surely kill it. bly starting a spine crawler/creep march towards huks side of the map.

*Stehano and MC are setting up

23:00 mothership is out, bly still has no fourth, looks like he has a oneshot army that is a lot weaker than his opponents, even if he kills huks army somehow huk has a lot more econ to reinforce with.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 19 2012 19:45 GMT
#809
On May 20 2012 04:32 Malinor wrote:
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On May 20 2012 04:31 Logros wrote:
What a shame, Thorzain has a lot more potential to take down Koreans.


Honestly, I don't think it makes much of a difference if Thorzain or Socke has to play DRG now. Both would be 1:20 underdogs there. Though both have slayed a lot of koreans lately, but DRG is not just another level of player.


That's my only complaint about the entire event. I'm fine with the PPV concept its just spring arena 1 player at spring arena 2. Consider this, those who were seeded into this event via spring arena 1 were seeded because theyre REALLY FUCKING GOOD. To get to spring arena 1 in the first place a player needed to be in top 8 at the winter championship, and to be seeded from 1 to 2 a player needed to be top 4 of those players. That would be fine if those players weren't ALSO granted pool play into spring championship. This means that this tournament is irrelevent to DRG/Heart/Ganzi because should they lose outside top 12, they still have pool spots for the championship. However, as mentioned earlier these players are REALLY fucking good, meaning they should still most likely place very highly in this arena (at this point Ganzi is out, Heart would have qualified for pool play, and DRG is a socke away). Now it is nice and all that should DRG/Heart/Ganzi fall within "pool play" qualifications at this tournament the spots would go to the next placed person (assuming for the sake of an example they came 1-3rd then 4th-15th would get the seeds instead of 1-12), but this is (in my opinion) unfair to the players they face along the way. Take Bling and Socke for examples. They both met/meeting DRG in the tournament, Bling in winners, Socke in losers. Do I believe either are at DRGs level everyday? No not at all, however I do believe either COULD pull off the upset. DRG beating both of them drastically changes their respective runs (Bling falls to losers, Socke exits the tournament) AND it potentially keeps them out of pool play that they may have been able to earn without spring arena 1 players there.

My solution (sorry for the wall of text) is to either have only spring arena 1 qualifiy a player for spring arena 2 and have the top 16 of spring arena 2 be the pool play players, or have top 4 spring arena 1 players qualify for pools but not have them participate in spring arena 2
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
May 19 2012 19:46 GMT
#810
Stephanos last matches vs. MC always looked like he was taking too much damage from the stargate shenanigans and then always lost. If he manages to not take too much damage he's in pretty good shape i hope
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 19:46 GMT
#811
On May 20 2012 04:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
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On May 20 2012 04:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:43 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:41 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:38 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:37 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:36 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:35 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:34 L3g3nd_ wrote:
[quote]
8:00 a fast lair from bly, huk on 2gas pushing out with a zealot/stalker. no more gates or tech from him, still on 2 gas.bly now going up to 4gas.

9:00 huk now on 4gates 4 gas and a robo, bly with a macro hatch but no third yet, positions are huk top right bly bottom right (TDA) so hard third for bly to take

11:00 huk getting blink and hallu scouting, walling off his natural ramp with gates to take his third and turtle up it looks like. bly has teched to infestors and is finally taking a third

12:00 bly doing well with creep spread, has infestors out, huk taking his third i cant tell if collosus tech yet, dont think so, bly has scouted huks third and is moving out to attack it it seems

13:00 bly tries to burrow his infestors into the third, but huk has an observer and blinks onto them and kills 6 infestors for free ! with similar timed thirds huk has a HUGE lead in this deciding game 3

15:00 huk adding on a lot of gates, and he does have collouss tech, and i assume +3 attack on the way, huk with a 10 supply lead (130-120) moves out to clear some creep while taking a 4th, bly still on 3 base (might have hive tech, didnt get a good look)

17:00 okay yup hive is done, and broodlords will be here soon a burrowed ling denies huks fourth, but huk has map control, not sure if he has seen the BL tech yet, no sign of a stargate.

19:00 huk sees the broods ! he has a fleat beacon on the way, and +3 is done. also his fourth is up and he denies blys fourth mothership is started and more gates added on.

22:00 archons and a mothership out for huk, bly takes a hidden fourth but huk scouts it and zealots are on the way and will surely kill it. bly starting a spine crawler/creep march towards huks side of the map.

*Stehano and MC are setting up

23:00 mothership is out, bly still has no fourth, looks like he has a oneshot army that is a lot weaker than his opponents, even if he kills huks army somehow huk has a lot more econ to reinforce with.

25:00 bly NP's the mothership and vortex's huks army !
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
May 19 2012 19:46 GMT
#812
stephano!!
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
May 19 2012 19:47 GMT
#813
TIME FOR THE BEST GAME OF THE NIGHT GET HYPHY
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 19 2012 19:47 GMT
#814
Camera staying on Stephano's face the whole time. He's a bit nervous.
zemi
Profile Joined May 2012
France57 Posts
May 19 2012 19:47 GMT
#815
It's gonna be really hard for Stephano... but why not?
"You can cut our wings, but we will always remember what it was like to fly"
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 19:47 GMT
#816
On May 20 2012 04:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 04:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:43 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:41 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:38 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:37 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:36 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:35 L3g3nd_ wrote:
[quote]
9:00 huk now on 4gates 4 gas and a robo, bly with a macro hatch but no third yet, positions are huk top right bly bottom right (TDA) so hard third for bly to take

11:00 huk getting blink and hallu scouting, walling off his natural ramp with gates to take his third and turtle up it looks like. bly has teched to infestors and is finally taking a third

12:00 bly doing well with creep spread, has infestors out, huk taking his third i cant tell if collosus tech yet, dont think so, bly has scouted huks third and is moving out to attack it it seems

13:00 bly tries to burrow his infestors into the third, but huk has an observer and blinks onto them and kills 6 infestors for free ! with similar timed thirds huk has a HUGE lead in this deciding game 3

15:00 huk adding on a lot of gates, and he does have collouss tech, and i assume +3 attack on the way, huk with a 10 supply lead (130-120) moves out to clear some creep while taking a 4th, bly still on 3 base (might have hive tech, didnt get a good look)

17:00 okay yup hive is done, and broodlords will be here soon a burrowed ling denies huks fourth, but huk has map control, not sure if he has seen the BL tech yet, no sign of a stargate.

19:00 huk sees the broods ! he has a fleat beacon on the way, and +3 is done. also his fourth is up and he denies blys fourth mothership is started and more gates added on.

22:00 archons and a mothership out for huk, bly takes a hidden fourth but huk scouts it and zealots are on the way and will surely kill it. bly starting a spine crawler/creep march towards huks side of the map.

*Stehano and MC are setting up

23:00 mothership is out, bly still has no fourth, looks like he has a oneshot army that is a lot weaker than his opponents, even if he kills huks army somehow huk has a lot more econ to reinforce with.

25:00 bly NP's the mothership and vortex's huks army !

26:00 after the vortex huk throws down some storms and picks of some BL with blink before both players retreat. it seems bly finally has a fourth, b
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
May 19 2012 19:47 GMT
#817
On May 20 2012 04:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 04:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:43 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:41 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:38 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:37 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:36 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:35 L3g3nd_ wrote:
[quote]
9:00 huk now on 4gates 4 gas and a robo, bly with a macro hatch but no third yet, positions are huk top right bly bottom right (TDA) so hard third for bly to take

11:00 huk getting blink and hallu scouting, walling off his natural ramp with gates to take his third and turtle up it looks like. bly has teched to infestors and is finally taking a third

12:00 bly doing well with creep spread, has infestors out, huk taking his third i cant tell if collosus tech yet, dont think so, bly has scouted huks third and is moving out to attack it it seems

13:00 bly tries to burrow his infestors into the third, but huk has an observer and blinks onto them and kills 6 infestors for free ! with similar timed thirds huk has a HUGE lead in this deciding game 3

15:00 huk adding on a lot of gates, and he does have collouss tech, and i assume +3 attack on the way, huk with a 10 supply lead (130-120) moves out to clear some creep while taking a 4th, bly still on 3 base (might have hive tech, didnt get a good look)

17:00 okay yup hive is done, and broodlords will be here soon a burrowed ling denies huks fourth, but huk has map control, not sure if he has seen the BL tech yet, no sign of a stargate.

19:00 huk sees the broods ! he has a fleat beacon on the way, and +3 is done. also his fourth is up and he denies blys fourth mothership is started and more gates added on.

22:00 archons and a mothership out for huk, bly takes a hidden fourth but huk scouts it and zealots are on the way and will surely kill it. bly starting a spine crawler/creep march towards huks side of the map.

*Stehano and MC are setting up

23:00 mothership is out, bly still has no fourth, looks like he has a oneshot army that is a lot weaker than his opponents, even if he kills huks army somehow huk has a lot more econ to reinforce with.

25:00 bly NP's the mothership and vortex's huks army !



rofl!
Man with a Plan
Profile Joined January 2012
United States401 Posts
May 19 2012 19:47 GMT
#818
Lets just do this already
Yo!
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 19:48:01
May 19 2012 19:47 GMT
#819
Edit
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 19 2012 19:47 GMT
#820
it must be so awe inspiring to play there, with that background.
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