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I missed my alarm but both my picks lost so maybe its good. XDGo go squirtle!!
[Code S] Semi-Final 2012 GSL Season 2 - Page 148
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
I missed my alarm but both my picks lost so maybe its good. XDGo go squirtle!! | ||
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awwnuts07
United States621 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:31 Garnet wrote: Mvp milking as much money as possible before the elephants come. He will try to achieve the unthinkable: winning 6 GSL before getting his wrist fixed, and transcend to a godhood.  | ||
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Giga
United Kingdom114 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:31 Garnet wrote: Mvp milking as much money as possible before the elephants come. You talking about ForGG/July/NaDa/BoxeR type Elephants? | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:32 FairForever wrote: I hate when balance is brought up, because I think the game is pretty okay. But you could use different methodologies rather than just "GSL Champ" to figure out if one race is better than the others. There are games that matter other than the championship match - in fact the championship match is statistically a TERRIBLE way to determine the best race, even if you had a large enough population. Why? Let's say there's one player who would, hypothetically, beat everyone else, regardless of his skill level. If you use Champions as a way to determine, you would say his race is imbalanced. You really should be using top 16 or top 8 or something, in which case, as each race should theoretically get 1/3 of the representation, you could probably make a sample after 5 or 6 GSLs. That being said, 5 to 6 GSLs is a long time so it wouldn't be very relevant, but it would be better than using only champions/ You are actually NOT RIGHT. If you had a large enough population (e.g. 5-10 years of GSL finals) you SHOULD have the same ammount of races taking the title. PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF WITH SC1 HISTORY. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4830 Posts
Protoss has two GSL gold medals and two silvers. Protoss has to beat MVP in this finals, just to tie a single Terran player for medals... | ||
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Censor
United States122 Posts
On May 10 2012 22:43 liberate71 wrote: You talking about ForGG/July/NaDa/BoxeR type Elephants? No, he's talking about the real elephants. TBLS and the other top broodwar players like Fantasy, Jangbi, etc. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4830 Posts
On May 10 2012 22:43 liberate71 wrote: You talking about ForGG/July/NaDa/BoxeR type Elephants? No, and you betray your ignorance. July and Boxer were not remotely competitive when they quit Broodwar. Nada and ForGG were average at best. | ||
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong744 Posts
On May 10 2012 20:52 HolyArrow wrote: That's a fine point, but that just annoys me by principle. I'm a pretty empathetic person - I can understand that people really get into the game and root massively for a certain player or race. But I also believe that all fans deserve the satisfaction of seeing their favorite race win a fair amount. If the situations were magically reversed and Protoss switched places with Terran in terms of big-picture GSL success, I'd be extremely okay with a Terran champion or two, because it's about time - I'd say it's only fair to the Terran fans to see more Terran winners. But, that's not reality. The reality is that Terran has had the most champions and Protoss has had by far the least, and it just annoys me that despite all this, some people really want to see yet another Terran Code S win. Don't get me wrong - I clearly have no greater moral basis for my stance on this, and people who really want to see another Terran win aren't objectively wrong in any way. It's just my personal philosophy that all fans should see ideally their race win a roughly proportionate amount of times, because everyone deserves to be satisfied as viewers. Damn, that's a high quality post right there - well said. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 10 2012 22:46 pms wrote: You are actually NOT RIGHT. If you had a large enough population (e.g. 5-10 years of GSL finals) you SHOULD have the same ammount of races taking the title. PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF WITH SC1 HISTORY. No you shouldn't. What a bizzare opinion. Why would you assume that all three races are played by absolutely equally skilled players and the same number of players? | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On May 10 2012 22:46 Censor wrote: No, he's talking about the real elephants. TBLS and the other top broodwar players like Fantasy, Jangbi, etc. I haven't followed the SC2 scene in a while. I do know that Kespa and Blizzard reconciled and SC2 will be run by them, but have players like Fantasy/Jangbi been confirmed to play SC2 or is that just an assumption? | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
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n3gative
Canada369 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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-TesteR-
Canada1165 Posts
On May 10 2012 22:43 liberate71 wrote: You talking about ForGG/July/NaDa/BoxeR type Elephants? I read somewhere even flash said himself he expects to get spanked in the first year of sc2, this whole elephant business is just desperate bw fans :/ | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 10 2012 20:52 HolyArrow wrote: That's a fine point, but that just annoys me by principle. I'm a pretty empathetic person - I can understand that people really get into the game and root massively for a certain player or race. But I also believe that all fans deserve the satisfaction of seeing their favorite race win a fair amount. If the situations were magically reversed and Protoss switched places with Terran in terms of big-picture GSL success, I'd be extremely okay with a Terran champion or two, because it's about time - I'd say it's only fair to the Terran fans to see more Terran winners. But, that's not reality. The reality is that Terran has had the most champions and Protoss has had by far the least, and it just annoys me that despite all this, some people really want to see yet another Terran Code S win. Don't get me wrong - I clearly have no greater moral basis for my stance on this, and people who really want to see another Terran win aren't objectively wrong in any way. It's just my personal philosophy that all fans should see ideally their race win a roughly proportionate amount of times, because everyone deserves to be satisfied as viewers. People don't want a Protoss to win because most people (including Blizzard) know that right now Protoss is too good and while Squirtle/Parting/Hero/Oz are good players it's no coincidence they just all became instantly top of the world players the second Blizzard nerfed ghosts, buffed Immortals and buffed Protoss upgrades. I don't really have any racial preference but I want Mvp to crush this kid into the floor to show that overall skill and greatness like Mvp has transcends Blizzard flavour of the month balance patches. When another Protoss wins a Star League I want it to be a real legit win, not a 70% legit win with Blizzard giving them a nice helping hand. | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:32 shadymmj wrote: i would not say it's imbalance but ludicrous volatility in all parts of the matchup. it's just not very fun watching one army melt completely in about 10 secs after waiting for 15 minutes, or a 1/1/1 all-in. When Browder said terrible terrible damage he was absolutely right for TvP and ZvP. I think that this is the REAL problem of SC2. But I think it's not only about TvP and ZvP. Also it's about TvZ. And I think there are two main causes of it: 1. Medivacs, which make bio balls extremelly resilient. 2. Collosus, which are meant to kill the bio ball, but themselves they are the backbone of toss death-ball. I think medivacs heal too fast, and collosus are basicaly the worst unit in the game, even though I'm a toss user. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 10 2012 22:56 vndods wrote: Though I am quite happy that MVP stopped the Parting hype train dead in it's tracks. Best PvT in the world, hilarious. He is the best PvT in the world, easily. That doesn't mean he has a 100% chance to beat a great player like Mvp. DRG doesn't stop being the best ZvP in the world when he loses to MC. When great player play, someone has to lose. | ||
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