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BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
May 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#1101
On May 08 2012 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:55 BuzZoo wrote:
This isn't a balance whine, but is there any way zerg can really punish a fast 3rd cc with fast siege mode? Seems to me the best option is to just take your own 3rd and drone up like crazy. But they can still do a scary tank/marine push that you have to be ready for. Thoughts?

2base muta/ling/bling all in is quite good.


2base muta/ling/bling all-in? Not familiar with that. I was thinking the July 2base ling/bane would be good because it hits so early, and then he often would follow a few minutes later with surprisingly fast muta. Is that what you meant?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#1102
this is exatly where the queen range buff will come into play
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
May 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#1103
On May 08 2012 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:55 BuzZoo wrote:
This isn't a balance whine, but is there any way zerg can really punish a fast 3rd cc with fast siege mode? Seems to me the best option is to just take your own 3rd and drone up like crazy. But they can still do a scary tank/marine push that you have to be ready for. Thoughts?

2base muta/ling/bling all in is quite good.


I thought the point of the 3OC is to provide mules + scv's which cancels out muta mineral line harass?
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
May 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#1104
On May 08 2012 20:57 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:55 BuzZoo wrote:
This isn't a balance whine, but is there any way zerg can really punish a fast 3rd cc with fast siege mode? Seems to me the best option is to just take your own 3rd and drone up like crazy. But they can still do a scary tank/marine push that you have to be ready for. Thoughts?

You could maybe get off a quick 2 base ling/bane bust, but the roach/ling/bane bust is too late to work.


Yeah I agree with this completely.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#1105
On May 08 2012 20:58 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:55 tomatriedes wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:54 samurai80 wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:48 Xtreme94 wrote:
Today is not protoss day all toss has fallen...

Not even hoping for a protoss come back in GSL anymore. Of the 3 toss already in code A RO24, 2 of them are coming from code S. And there are only 2 protoss who have not played yet... And man 10 terrans already qualified + 4 who have not played yet (including bomber). This is getting really sad to have this over and over every season in GSL.


And yet the terrans never. Stop. Whining!

Are you just here to shit on terrans? Today I saw so many anti-terran posts of yours. Please stop and talk about the games.


All the BS whining gets on my nerves.
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
May 08 2012 12:00 GMT
#1106
On May 08 2012 20:56 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:55 BuzZoo wrote:
This isn't a balance whine, but is there any way zerg can really punish a fast 3rd cc with fast siege mode? Seems to me the best option is to just take your own 3rd and drone up like crazy. But they can still do a scary tank/marine push that you have to be ready for. Thoughts?


This is why the OL speed up is being looked at. Zerg needs the slightly better scouting.


Also a very good point. Thanks for the feedback guys.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
May 08 2012 12:00 GMT
#1107
On May 08 2012 20:59 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:58 KiNGxXx wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:55 tomatriedes wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:54 samurai80 wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:48 Xtreme94 wrote:
Today is not protoss day all toss has fallen...

Not even hoping for a protoss come back in GSL anymore. Of the 3 toss already in code A RO24, 2 of them are coming from code S. And there are only 2 protoss who have not played yet... And man 10 terrans already qualified + 4 who have not played yet (including bomber). This is getting really sad to have this over and over every season in GSL.


And yet the terrans never. Stop. Whining!

Are you just here to shit on terrans? Today I saw so many anti-terran posts of yours. Please stop and talk about the games.


All the BS whining gets on my nerves.


Whining about whining doesn't help

oh look at what I'm doing, whoops
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
May 08 2012 12:00 GMT
#1108
On May 08 2012 20:55 BuzZoo wrote:
This isn't a balance whine, but is there any way zerg can really punish a fast 3rd cc with fast siege mode? Seems to me the best option is to just take your own 3rd and drone up like crazy. But they can still do a scary tank/marine push that you have to be ready for. Thoughts?

If you hit before siege mode, roach busts work (seen those a few times). Once ~2 tanks are up and sieged, you're probably not going get in ground way though. If you still wanna be agressive at that point you're probably gonna have to get Nydus or drops (watch Forsen-Thorzain at Dreamhack for a successful 2base "allin" against sieged tanks).
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
May 08 2012 12:00 GMT
#1109
You know I think the game is pretty balanced because we keep seeing different race distributions in every tournament instead of it being lopsided towards one race.

But hey that's just me.
aka ilovesharkpeople
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 08 2012 12:01 GMT
#1110
On May 08 2012 20:54 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:54 samurai80 wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:48 Xtreme94 wrote:
Today is not protoss day all toss has fallen...

Not even hoping for a protoss come back in GSL anymore. Of the 3 toss already in code A RO24, 2 of them are coming from code S. And there are only 2 protoss who have not played yet... And man 10 terrans already qualified + 4 who have not played yet (including bomber). This is getting really sad to have this over and over every season in GSL.


Do you not watch Code S? >_>

I do man. There are now more toss for the last rounds of code S, but still you will have seen much more matches with terrans than protoss overall this season. And obviously it's going to continue like this as so few protoss advanced to RO24.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 12:04:10
May 08 2012 12:03 GMT
#1111
On May 08 2012 21:01 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:54 Dodgin wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:54 samurai80 wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:48 Xtreme94 wrote:
Today is not protoss day all toss has fallen...

Not even hoping for a protoss come back in GSL anymore. Of the 3 toss already in code A RO24, 2 of them are coming from code S. And there are only 2 protoss who have not played yet... And man 10 terrans already qualified + 4 who have not played yet (including bomber). This is getting really sad to have this over and over every season in GSL.


Do you not watch Code S? >_>

I do man. There are now more toss for the last rounds of code S, but still you will have seen much more matches with terrans than protoss overall this season. And obviously it's going to continue like this as so few protoss advanced to RO24.


If anything we need more zergs I think the terran/protoss representation in the gsl is fine.

you're also not factoring in up/downs where anything can happen.
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
May 08 2012 12:03 GMT
#1112
On May 08 2012 21:00 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:55 BuzZoo wrote:
This isn't a balance whine, but is there any way zerg can really punish a fast 3rd cc with fast siege mode? Seems to me the best option is to just take your own 3rd and drone up like crazy. But they can still do a scary tank/marine push that you have to be ready for. Thoughts?

If you hit before siege mode, roach busts work (seen those a few times). Once ~2 tanks are up and sieged, you're probably not going get in ground way though. If you still wanna be agressive at that point you're probably gonna have to get Nydus or drops (watch Forsen-Thorzain at Dreamhack for a successful 2base "allin" against sieged tanks).


Yeah. I've used roach/speedling allins vs hellion expand -> fast 3rd CC and it works really well unless they rush siege mode in which case it fails spectacularly. Interesting what you said about nydus/drops with Forsen, will watch it.
Thanks!
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 08 2012 12:04 GMT
#1113
double ebays but not getting armor upgrade? wtf bomber???
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 08 2012 12:04 GMT
#1114
wtf my stream stopped and so did the gom site..
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 08 2012 12:04 GMT
#1115
1 evo for melee 1 for carapace and 1 for spore crawlers.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
May 08 2012 12:05 GMT
#1116
On May 08 2012 21:04 zaii wrote:
wtf my stream stopped and so did the gom site..



same here
Thobrik
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1120 Posts
May 08 2012 12:05 GMT
#1117
mutalisks! long time no see!
"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered, Religion is answers that may never be questioned."
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
May 08 2012 12:06 GMT
#1118
On May 08 2012 21:04 nojok wrote:
1 evo for melee 1 for carapace and 1 for spore crawlers.


Well, range does help Queens I believe stop Medivacs
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 08 2012 12:06 GMT
#1119
On May 08 2012 21:03 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 21:01 samurai80 wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:54 Dodgin wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:54 samurai80 wrote:
On May 08 2012 20:48 Xtreme94 wrote:
Today is not protoss day all toss has fallen...

Not even hoping for a protoss come back in GSL anymore. Of the 3 toss already in code A RO24, 2 of them are coming from code S. And there are only 2 protoss who have not played yet... And man 10 terrans already qualified + 4 who have not played yet (including bomber). This is getting really sad to have this over and over every season in GSL.


Do you not watch Code S? >_>

I do man. There are now more toss for the last rounds of code S, but still you will have seen much more matches with terrans than protoss overall this season. And obviously it's going to continue like this as so few protoss advanced to RO24.


If anything we need more zergs I think the terran/protoss representation in the gsl is fine.

you're also not factoring in up/downs where anything can happen.

Let's say zergs are in an even worse shape than protoss. But it doesn't mean that being able to see half the number of matches with protoss compared to matches with terrans is fine. It's just "not that desperate".
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
May 08 2012 12:07 GMT
#1120
Wolf's gasp LOL
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