[IPL] FC15: MC vs Stephano - Page 6

On April 28 2012 08:57 ninjamyst wrote:
will stephano even show up? lol

On April 28 2012 09:04 Azarkon wrote:


Oh, you mean people who were in Code S at the time he played them.

Well, Polt's still there, because was seeded into Code S right before Lone Star.

Instead of HerO, put Zenio.



He's not better than MC.

On April 28 2012 09:19 Otolia wrote:

Good, let me bring some more infos. We can't take GSL into account because it's a preparation based league where Stephano didn't play yet. Results are very dependent from coaching and build orders so we have to measure things in an equal field. HSC was more of a party for most foreigners. And even though we consider it premier in LP, it's only due to the innovation and the entertainment value. Still I included it.

International Stats for MC in 2012: 2-0 TheStC, 1-2 PartinG, 0-2 GanZi, 3-0 viOlet, 3-2 PuMa, 0-2 MKP, 1-2 GanZi, 2-1 crazymovING, 2-1 Polt, 2-0 Symbol, 2-0 MVP, 2-0 PuMa, 0-2 Polt, 1-2 Squirtle, 0-2 Creator, 2-3 aLive, 3-0 DRG, 1-2 Heart, 0-3 GanZi, 1-2 viOlet, 2-1 MKP, 2-1 PartinG, 1-3 DRG

Total : 31 - 33

HSC IV : 0-2 MKP, 3-2 JYP, 4-0 Sound -> 7-4

International Stats for Stephano in 2012 : 3-2 Polt, 3-2 viOlet, 2-0 HyuN, 3-0 PuMa, 1-4 Polt, 2-0 Zenio, 0-2 Polt, 5-2 Polt, 1-2 Polt, 1-2 Inori, 1-2 Life, 1-2 MKP, 2-1 JYP, 2-1 Curious, 1-2 NesTea, 0-2 MMA

Total : 28 - 26

HSC : 0-2 Sound, 0-2 MKP, 0-2 MC

And I'm not even removing online games which are different from offline ones (though I guess it would work in MC's favor)

Conclusion : Results are very similar. You cannot based your conclusion on that unless you want to win an internet argument. Without HSC, Stephano has a winning record and MC a losing one, with it it's reversed.

On April 28 2012 09:37 1Eris1 wrote:


Is this some kind of joke? I linked the 2012 games for you and you managed to miscount them, jesus christ.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=640&part=games&league=standard
MC's vs Koreans in foreign tournaments:
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40-37. Looks like I was off by a couple here. You were off by 10+.

Stephano vs Koreans, 2012, http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standard#tblt-4105-4-1-DESC
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32-36. I accidently counted the Dream games wrong. Where the fuck are you getting 28-26 from?

And how the fuck are you not going to count GSL games? What a bullshit excuse. It seems the only way you can make an arguement is by cherrypicking results or falsifying stats.

On April 28 2012 09:12 Lasbike wrote:

Well, here is one of his tweet from 12 hours ago :

"I have some "important" matches to prepare today so I don't think i'll be able to stream, sorry"

At least, he's taking this thing a little bit seriously, and therefore, will probably show up :p

On April 28 2012 10:01 Redox wrote:

I was already wondering why Stephano did not play ladder the last 2 days and played custom games instead.

Does anyone know with whom he practiced?

On April 28 2012 10:33 Otolia wrote:

As planned, you are more looking to impose your point of view. I'm going to walk away now but I'm sure we'll meet again. Until then I recommend you get a scientific education which could allow you to understand why comparison between things needs to have equivalent (or if it's impossible very similar) system.

PS : You pretend to know stuff but you don't know ReaL ?! And I am the ignorant fanboy ... This is glorious.

On April 28 2012 11:10 revel8 wrote:
1Eris1, your figures have some errors, please correct in the interests of accuracy.

Stephano beat Bomber 2-0 not 2-1 at IPL4. He also beat Polt 5-2 not 4-2 at Lone Star Clash. He also lost 1-2 to Life, not 0-2 in Iron Squid. So your amended figures for Stephano vs Koreans in 2012 should read 34-35.

My amendments can be verified in the liquipedia records for IPL4, Lone Star Clash and Iron Squid.

I have not checked your MC stats but unless you did better research than for your Stephano figures then they are probably inaccurate too. I agree with the point you are making about MC having better results against Koreans in 2012, but supplying stats to support your argument will have the effect of reducing your credibility if you supply incorrect data.

Stephano is on the record as saying MC is one of the 3 players he fears the most, the others are MKP and MMA. So Stephano is aware that MC is a big challenge for him.

On April 28 2012 10:35 HolyArrow wrote:


I warned you, Eris. I warned you. Why didn't you listen?

On April 28 2012 10:28 Rayjin wrote:
In my opinion Stephano has the best ZvP at the moment ( Yes, i would put him above DRG in this Matchup ^^ ).

Overall MC is the better player, but i think he'll lose this battle.

On April 28 2012 09:15 Bagration wrote:
MC wins. He crushed Violet last week so convincingly I have to give him the advantage. But this will be a great series.