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Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
April 29 2012 02:58 GMT
#861
amazing 18k viewers ( or more ) btw
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 29 2012 02:59 GMT
#862
On April 29 2012 11:50 SomeONEx wrote:
Foreign hope losing to a player that got knocked out of ro16!


so? amazing players get knocked out of GSL all the time, and PvZ is MC's best matchup
beep boop
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
April 29 2012 03:03 GMT
#863
On April 29 2012 11:59 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 11:50 SomeONEx wrote:
Foreign hope losing to a player that got knocked out of ro16!


so? amazing players get knocked out of GSL all the time, and PvZ is MC's best matchup

tbh i think he's making a reference to people who say stephano will dominate code s whether or not it is a good reference
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
April 29 2012 03:03 GMT
#864
On April 29 2012 11:48 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 11:42 MilesTeg wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:38 Rulker wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:36 MilesTeg wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:27 jnsjr wrote:
Great set of games. I was hoping that Stephano would win, as I lean more towards Zerg. I must admit though that losing to MC after saying protoss needs a buff in the matchup is quite ironic and hilarious.


No, it's not ironic, unless you didn't pay attention to what he was saying... He didn't say "Protoss absolutely cannot win and I expect to have a 100% win rate against them", he said "Protoss are forced into risky play while Zerg can play much safer". So losing to the King of gimmicky bullshit does nothing to disprove what he said.

your stupid, MC pvz is solid as a rock, and im not commenting on the disprove/prove thing you guys are posting on, but MC metagamed and outplayed Stephano, showing his series and gameplay is better, with hte only real gimick he did was the 3 gate which tricked the zerg who doesnt scout and doesn't get gas


No your stupid.


Haha, posts like this are always ironic.


Look at the message I'm answering before jumping to conclusions...
jnsjr
Profile Joined February 2011
United States461 Posts
April 29 2012 03:06 GMT
#865
On April 29 2012 11:36 MilesTeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 11:27 jnsjr wrote:
Great set of games. I was hoping that Stephano would win, as I lean more towards Zerg. I must admit though that losing to MC after saying protoss needs a buff in the matchup is quite ironic and hilarious.


No, it's not ironic, unless you didn't pay attention to what he was saying... He didn't say "Protoss absolutely cannot win and I expect to have a 100% win rate against them", he said "Protoss are forced into risky play while Zerg can play much safer". So losing to the King of gimmicky bullshit does nothing to disprove what he said.


Ok, I'll bite. I did pay attention to what he said. He has said that Blizzard should fix the matchup because its imbalanced towards zerg. If he proceeds to lose every series against a top Korean protoss, that would be ironic no? We will have to see how the next few ZvP series against top Korean protosses go for him. He is going to Korea soon, so I am sure that we will get to see some amazing ZvP matches. My guess is that its not as imbalanced as Stephano's comments would seem to imply.

MC didn't win this BO9 with gimmicky bullshit. MAYBE you could consider 1 or 2 strategies gimmicky, but come on man. Give credit where credit is due.

Z: Idra #1 Stephano JD Scarlett Dimaga Life Violet DRG Sen; T: Demuslim Puma Illusion Bomber Polt TSpoon Strelok; P: Hasuobs Huk; Casters: Apollo #1 Axslav DJWheat Tasteless Bitter Artosis Incontrol RSimpson Psy Team: Let's GO EG!!
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 29 2012 03:08 GMT
#866
On April 29 2012 12:03 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 11:59 7mk wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:50 SomeONEx wrote:
Foreign hope losing to a player that got knocked out of ro16!


so? amazing players get knocked out of GSL all the time, and PvZ is MC's best matchup

tbh i think he's making a reference to people who say stephano will dominate code s whether or not it is a good reference


tbh i think those ppl are dumb as fuck.
best foreigner barely means top 15 overall nowadays, and thats what he has shown today.
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HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
April 29 2012 03:11 GMT
#867
Certainly not best ZvP in the world...as it was shown
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 29 2012 03:16 GMT
#868
On April 29 2012 12:11 HuKPOWA wrote:
Certainly not best ZvP in the world...as it was shown


I don't think anyone in their right mind would have thought that Stephano had better ZvP than DRG. Stephano is obviously quite good when it comes to taking out certain playstyles, but he cannot adapt easily and has poor game sense. DRG is on another level really.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
April 29 2012 03:27 GMT
#869
On April 29 2012 12:03 MilesTeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 11:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:42 MilesTeg wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:38 Rulker wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:36 MilesTeg wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:27 jnsjr wrote:
Great set of games. I was hoping that Stephano would win, as I lean more towards Zerg. I must admit though that losing to MC after saying protoss needs a buff in the matchup is quite ironic and hilarious.


No, it's not ironic, unless you didn't pay attention to what he was saying... He didn't say "Protoss absolutely cannot win and I expect to have a 100% win rate against them", he said "Protoss are forced into risky play while Zerg can play much safer". So losing to the King of gimmicky bullshit does nothing to disprove what he said.

your stupid, MC pvz is solid as a rock, and im not commenting on the disprove/prove thing you guys are posting on, but MC metagamed and outplayed Stephano, showing his series and gameplay is better, with hte only real gimick he did was the 3 gate which tricked the zerg who doesnt scout and doesn't get gas


No your stupid.


Haha, posts like this are always ironic.


Look at the message I'm answering before jumping to conclusions...


Well original poster was correct. Also, all I need to do is see a user's origin and see France to know what agenda is.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
jpark4g
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States101 Posts
April 29 2012 03:28 GMT
#870
On April 29 2012 12:11 HuKPOWA wrote:
Certainly not best ZvP in the world...as it was shown

i agree with above poster that drg prolly has the best zvp in the world.. but i'd have to say stepano is a close 2nd. losing 5-3 to the best pvz'er in the world is no slouch. mc himself has been quoted saying he will not lose to zerg.... ever. only zerg i recall mc losing to is drg himself. and according to mc, best pvt = parting, pvp = huk, pvz = mc.... which i actually agree with 100%.
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
April 29 2012 03:32 GMT
#871
Crazy that Stephano could win with pure roach/ling like that after the third got sniped. It barely slowed down Stephanos max.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 03:50:42
April 29 2012 03:47 GMT
#872
I think this series was good practice for Stephano to see a few of MC's plays. Now that he can recognise them he should be able to cope better. I am talking about Stephano's decision to make 7 drones during MC's attack on Antigua. If he makes units instead it would have really helped him hold off that one base all-in. Also, in the Ohana game, I guess Stephano will know to scout for that pylon that allowed MC to warp in those sentries into Stephano's main after getting high ground vision from the void-ray. Also I guess he knows he should have sniped that nexus after that baneling bust rather than following the probes into the natural. Plus sticking with Mutas for so long against blink stalkers was not such a good idea.

So some valuable lessons to be learnt there. Stephano seemed a lot closer to MC than in their previous meetings. MC is still setting the standard though.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 29 2012 03:48 GMT
#873
Thank you IPL for organizing this, but please be sure to put all matches such as these on cloaked maps so assholes can't ruin the viewing experience for all of us. This issue is imperative and needs to be implemented ASAP. IPL has been very good in responding to community concerns, and I have high hopes that the necessary changes will be made.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
April 29 2012 03:49 GMT
#874
On April 29 2012 12:48 Bagration wrote:
Thank you IPL for organizing this, but please be sure to put all matches such as these on cloaked maps so assholes can't ruin the viewing experience for all of us. This issue is imperative and needs to be implemented ASAP. IPL has been very good in responding to community concerns, and I have high hopes that the necessary changes will be made.


I second that.
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
April 29 2012 03:50 GMT
#875
Were these games played on EU or KOR server?
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
April 29 2012 03:51 GMT
#876
On April 29 2012 12:50 -TesteR- wrote:
Were these games played on EU or KOR server?


North American. Still some lag issues though.
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
April 29 2012 03:58 GMT
#877
On April 29 2012 12:27 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 12:03 MilesTeg wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:42 MilesTeg wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:38 Rulker wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:36 MilesTeg wrote:
On April 29 2012 11:27 jnsjr wrote:
Great set of games. I was hoping that Stephano would win, as I lean more towards Zerg. I must admit though that losing to MC after saying protoss needs a buff in the matchup is quite ironic and hilarious.


No, it's not ironic, unless you didn't pay attention to what he was saying... He didn't say "Protoss absolutely cannot win and I expect to have a 100% win rate against them", he said "Protoss are forced into risky play while Zerg can play much safer". So losing to the King of gimmicky bullshit does nothing to disprove what he said.

your stupid, MC pvz is solid as a rock, and im not commenting on the disprove/prove thing you guys are posting on, but MC metagamed and outplayed Stephano, showing his series and gameplay is better, with hte only real gimick he did was the 3 gate which tricked the zerg who doesnt scout and doesn't get gas


No your stupid.


Haha, posts like this are always ironic.


Look at the message I'm answering before jumping to conclusions...


Well original poster was correct. Also, all I need to do is see a user's origin and see France to know what agenda is.


No, he was not correct, he made a mistake that even a non native speaker think is ridiculous while trying to insult me, so I was making fun of him.

As for Stephano he's actually not that popular in France so you're wrong to think that (or you should I say your wrong?).

Also my original point is still correct, Stephano says Zerg is favoured, he never said he would win everything. People who say "lol but he lost one game" are the ones who are ridiculous.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 29 2012 04:04 GMT
#878
I would like to see LosirA next ty !
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
April 29 2012 04:07 GMT
#879
On April 29 2012 13:04 Lysanias wrote:
I would like to see LosirA next ty !


That would actually be awesome. Let's see it!
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
April 29 2012 04:08 GMT
#880
On April 29 2012 13:04 Lysanias wrote:
I would like to see LosirA next ty !

Well it seems Polt is the next opponent. But Losira would be good choice for the following one in my opinion as well.
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