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On April 27 2012 02:16 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 00:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 27 2012 00:27 forsooth wrote:On April 27 2012 00:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 23:52 Derez wrote:On April 26 2012 23:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 22:56 vthree wrote:
Do Protoss players have selective memory. Why are People saying that
there hasn't been a p>t ro8 in so long when it happened LAST season. And
MADNESS? It occurs just as much as p>t ro8 seasons... It was called GomTvT for a reason. Nothing was worse than GomTvT. People could stay in Code S for seasons on a single matchup. As Artosis says - the best players atm are playing protoss and I agree. There's exceptions but overall there's a sick good protoss lineup of players who are sick good overall. Doesn't change the fact that TvT is a great match-up, while any match-up involving protoss ends up in a massive AoE fest that's absolutely terrible from a spectators point of view. Endgame PvP is just two blobs with lasers everywhere for 20 seconds until someone wins, endgame PvT is ghosts being effective or not followed by 20 seconds of blobs fighting and then going in favor of one of the players. The only variation is when someone tries to all-in early. As a spectator, the fewer protosses in a tournament the more entertaining it is. Now that's where I see that all you really want is terrans advancing because you're biased. Guess that ends the conversation. You clearly don't care about who the better players are. All Terrans advancing isn't as interesting as a good mix of Terrans and Zergs. What I want in a tournament is the best games, and Protoss does not provide that. Protoss is boring to play and worse to watch, painful though it is to state as a former BW Protoss player. I agree with the above sentiment that fewer Protoss pretty much always yields better entertainment from a spectator's point of view. The "best games" as you call it are games where the best players, regardless of their race, display the best skill with what they have at their disposal. Your argument is horribly biased. If you think that TvZ is entertaining then fine, go watch TvZ. That's your opinion and has absolutely nothing to do with balance or general entertainment. That's an exceptionally flawed way of looking at things because it assumes that all the races are well designed and interact with each other in interesting and dynamic ways. If the design of one or all of them sucks, it doesn't matter if you have the best players in the world practice them to death and use them to their fullest potential. The design has to be good to begin with. I feel, as I have felt since I first picked up SC2 and started playing Protoss and started watching GSL, that Protoss is neither well designed on its own or in the way it works in the vT and vZ matchups. That's why SC2 is more entertaining when Protoss is absent, and I think that's a shame.
How is it flawed? You feel like protoss is not entertaining or well designed. Umm... cool? Too bad for you I guess. The races are unique in their mechanics and thus offer the players a lot of different ways to approach the game, based on their race, matchup, strategy and just overall style they wanna play. Only thing you're saying is that you dislike the race and the way protoss is generally played. So? I think all matchups are interesting and entertaining, sure I have favorites. But saying a race is poorly designed and not entertaining is something else. That's your opinion.
I for my part like watching starcraft to enjoy the extreme skill these players put in, not because I wanna see certain matchups. So I respect whichever players are playing the best at the moment, using their uniquely designed race to the best of their abilities. Sure I'm a protoss player and I love seeing protoss do well, but I'm not saying there should be no terrans or zergs in a tournament because they're not entertaining. That's disrespecting the game and the players.
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o mc. atleast squirtle is through
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Argh damnit. Really afraid of Parting OZ t.t Parting needs to make it through. Otherwise I think Taeja and Nani have a decent chance to make the finals (with the qualifier that I have no clue how nani mvp should turn out).
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On April 27 2012 02:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 02:16 forsooth wrote:On April 27 2012 00:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 27 2012 00:27 forsooth wrote:On April 27 2012 00:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 23:52 Derez wrote:On April 26 2012 23:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 22:56 vthree wrote:
Do Protoss players have selective memory. Why are People saying that
there hasn't been a p>t ro8 in so long when it happened LAST season. And
MADNESS? It occurs just as much as p>t ro8 seasons... It was called GomTvT for a reason. Nothing was worse than GomTvT. People could stay in Code S for seasons on a single matchup. As Artosis says - the best players atm are playing protoss and I agree. There's exceptions but overall there's a sick good protoss lineup of players who are sick good overall. Doesn't change the fact that TvT is a great match-up, while any match-up involving protoss ends up in a massive AoE fest that's absolutely terrible from a spectators point of view. Endgame PvP is just two blobs with lasers everywhere for 20 seconds until someone wins, endgame PvT is ghosts being effective or not followed by 20 seconds of blobs fighting and then going in favor of one of the players. The only variation is when someone tries to all-in early. As a spectator, the fewer protosses in a tournament the more entertaining it is. Now that's where I see that all you really want is terrans advancing because you're biased. Guess that ends the conversation. You clearly don't care about who the better players are. All Terrans advancing isn't as interesting as a good mix of Terrans and Zergs. What I want in a tournament is the best games, and Protoss does not provide that. Protoss is boring to play and worse to watch, painful though it is to state as a former BW Protoss player. I agree with the above sentiment that fewer Protoss pretty much always yields better entertainment from a spectator's point of view. The "best games" as you call it are games where the best players, regardless of their race, display the best skill with what they have at their disposal. Your argument is horribly biased. If you think that TvZ is entertaining then fine, go watch TvZ. That's your opinion and has absolutely nothing to do with balance or general entertainment. That's an exceptionally flawed way of looking at things because it assumes that all the races are well designed and interact with each other in interesting and dynamic ways. If the design of one or all of them sucks, it doesn't matter if you have the best players in the world practice them to death and use them to their fullest potential. The design has to be good to begin with. I feel, as I have felt since I first picked up SC2 and started playing Protoss and started watching GSL, that Protoss is neither well designed on its own or in the way it works in the vT and vZ matchups. That's why SC2 is more entertaining when Protoss is absent, and I think that's a shame. How is it flawed? You feel like protoss is not entertaining or well designed. Umm... cool? Too bad for you I guess. The races are unique in their mechanics and thus offer the players a lot of different ways to approach the game, based on their race, matchup, strategy and just overall style they wanna play. Only thing you're saying is that you dislike the race and the way protoss is generally played. So? I think all matchups are interesting and entertaining, sure I have favorites. But saying a race is poorly designed and not entertaining is something else. That's your opinion. I for my part like watching starcraft to enjoy the extreme skill these players put in, not because I wanna see certain matchups. So I respect whichever players are playing the best at the moment, using their uniquely designed race to the best of their abilities. Sure I'm a protoss player and I love seeing protoss do well, but I'm not saying there should be no terrans or zergs in a tournament because they're not entertaining. That's disrespecting the game and the players.
to be fair, it's pretty widely considered that TvZ, or TvT are the best matchups.
Many toss have said PvP is the worst matchup in the game.
Did you see the statistics that Playhem posted-- detailing the "Pros rate of losses to scrubs."
PvP was the worst by far with 25%. How is that skill? You say you want to " enjoy the extreme skill these players put in."
TvT was at 9.6%. Doesn't that mean that TvT is the most skill intensive matchup in the game? If the better player wins in TvT more than any other matchup?
Wait, you probably think TvT is boring. So stop lying about the fact you want to see the most skill, you are no different than the guy with whom you're arguing.
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On April 27 2012 02:53 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 02:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 27 2012 02:16 forsooth wrote:On April 27 2012 00:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 27 2012 00:27 forsooth wrote:On April 27 2012 00:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 23:52 Derez wrote:On April 26 2012 23:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 22:56 vthree wrote:
Do Protoss players have selective memory. Why are People saying that
there hasn't been a p>t ro8 in so long when it happened LAST season. And
MADNESS? It occurs just as much as p>t ro8 seasons... It was called GomTvT for a reason. Nothing was worse than GomTvT. People could stay in Code S for seasons on a single matchup. As Artosis says - the best players atm are playing protoss and I agree. There's exceptions but overall there's a sick good protoss lineup of players who are sick good overall. Doesn't change the fact that TvT is a great match-up, while any match-up involving protoss ends up in a massive AoE fest that's absolutely terrible from a spectators point of view. Endgame PvP is just two blobs with lasers everywhere for 20 seconds until someone wins, endgame PvT is ghosts being effective or not followed by 20 seconds of blobs fighting and then going in favor of one of the players. The only variation is when someone tries to all-in early. As a spectator, the fewer protosses in a tournament the more entertaining it is. Now that's where I see that all you really want is terrans advancing because you're biased. Guess that ends the conversation. You clearly don't care about who the better players are. All Terrans advancing isn't as interesting as a good mix of Terrans and Zergs. What I want in a tournament is the best games, and Protoss does not provide that. Protoss is boring to play and worse to watch, painful though it is to state as a former BW Protoss player. I agree with the above sentiment that fewer Protoss pretty much always yields better entertainment from a spectator's point of view. The "best games" as you call it are games where the best players, regardless of their race, display the best skill with what they have at their disposal. Your argument is horribly biased. If you think that TvZ is entertaining then fine, go watch TvZ. That's your opinion and has absolutely nothing to do with balance or general entertainment. That's an exceptionally flawed way of looking at things because it assumes that all the races are well designed and interact with each other in interesting and dynamic ways. If the design of one or all of them sucks, it doesn't matter if you have the best players in the world practice them to death and use them to their fullest potential. The design has to be good to begin with. I feel, as I have felt since I first picked up SC2 and started playing Protoss and started watching GSL, that Protoss is neither well designed on its own or in the way it works in the vT and vZ matchups. That's why SC2 is more entertaining when Protoss is absent, and I think that's a shame. How is it flawed? You feel like protoss is not entertaining or well designed. Umm... cool? Too bad for you I guess. The races are unique in their mechanics and thus offer the players a lot of different ways to approach the game, based on their race, matchup, strategy and just overall style they wanna play. Only thing you're saying is that you dislike the race and the way protoss is generally played. So? I think all matchups are interesting and entertaining, sure I have favorites. But saying a race is poorly designed and not entertaining is something else. That's your opinion. I for my part like watching starcraft to enjoy the extreme skill these players put in, not because I wanna see certain matchups. So I respect whichever players are playing the best at the moment, using their uniquely designed race to the best of their abilities. Sure I'm a protoss player and I love seeing protoss do well, but I'm not saying there should be no terrans or zergs in a tournament because they're not entertaining. That's disrespecting the game and the players. to be fair, it's pretty widely considered that TvZ, or TvT are the best matchups. Many toss have said PvP is the worst matchup in the game. Did you see the statistics that Playhem posted-- detailing the "Pros rate of losses to scrubs." PvP was the worst by far with 25%. How is that skill? You say you want to " enjoy the extreme skill these players put in." TvT was at 9.6%. Doesn't that mean that TvT is the most skill intensive matchup in the game? If the better player wins in TvT more than any other matchup? Wait, you probably think TvT is boring. So stop lying about the fact you want to see the most skill, you are no different than the guy with whom you're arguing.
wow, pretty much everyone i know dislike TvZ (from a spectator POV). Again, its probably the most static matchup. PvZ and PvT has a lot mor variety than TvZ wich is essentialy reactor hellion into bio tank ghost viking VS ling baneling muta into broodlords in EVERY SINGLE GAME. 1/20 games the Zerg goes ultralisks, but thats pretty much the only variety you will ever see.
on GSL level PvP is extremley skill-based, there are so many aspects that play into the matchup from the very early game to late game; Mind games, Micro, Build Order, Positioning. The reason Pros lose to lesser players is probably because the matchup is so hard that even pros can make those small mistakes that can cost you the game.
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One other thing about the days of "gomtvt" was the format back then made it way too forgiving for players to stay in code S. So all those terrans that were already in code S had so many chances to remain there.
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Well these results make me sad. Watching Maru play, he's nowhere near the skill level of MKP who has far better micro, macro, timings, reinforcements, rally-points, etc. If MKP was in this group, he would've crushed through all these guys and we'd have a championship-caliber player to slay the Protosses. Too bad he went on tilt and lost to Taeja who only had to play TvT's to get through the group. Who will save us from the Protosses now??
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Austria24422 Posts
On April 27 2012 02:53 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 02:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 27 2012 02:16 forsooth wrote:On April 27 2012 00:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 27 2012 00:27 forsooth wrote:On April 27 2012 00:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 23:52 Derez wrote:On April 26 2012 23:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 22:56 vthree wrote:
Do Protoss players have selective memory. Why are People saying that
there hasn't been a p>t ro8 in so long when it happened LAST season. And
MADNESS? It occurs just as much as p>t ro8 seasons... It was called GomTvT for a reason. Nothing was worse than GomTvT. People could stay in Code S for seasons on a single matchup. As Artosis says - the best players atm are playing protoss and I agree. There's exceptions but overall there's a sick good protoss lineup of players who are sick good overall. Doesn't change the fact that TvT is a great match-up, while any match-up involving protoss ends up in a massive AoE fest that's absolutely terrible from a spectators point of view. Endgame PvP is just two blobs with lasers everywhere for 20 seconds until someone wins, endgame PvT is ghosts being effective or not followed by 20 seconds of blobs fighting and then going in favor of one of the players. The only variation is when someone tries to all-in early. As a spectator, the fewer protosses in a tournament the more entertaining it is. Now that's where I see that all you really want is terrans advancing because you're biased. Guess that ends the conversation. You clearly don't care about who the better players are. All Terrans advancing isn't as interesting as a good mix of Terrans and Zergs. What I want in a tournament is the best games, and Protoss does not provide that. Protoss is boring to play and worse to watch, painful though it is to state as a former BW Protoss player. I agree with the above sentiment that fewer Protoss pretty much always yields better entertainment from a spectator's point of view. The "best games" as you call it are games where the best players, regardless of their race, display the best skill with what they have at their disposal. Your argument is horribly biased. If you think that TvZ is entertaining then fine, go watch TvZ. That's your opinion and has absolutely nothing to do with balance or general entertainment. That's an exceptionally flawed way of looking at things because it assumes that all the races are well designed and interact with each other in interesting and dynamic ways. If the design of one or all of them sucks, it doesn't matter if you have the best players in the world practice them to death and use them to their fullest potential. The design has to be good to begin with. I feel, as I have felt since I first picked up SC2 and started playing Protoss and started watching GSL, that Protoss is neither well designed on its own or in the way it works in the vT and vZ matchups. That's why SC2 is more entertaining when Protoss is absent, and I think that's a shame. How is it flawed? You feel like protoss is not entertaining or well designed. Umm... cool? Too bad for you I guess. The races are unique in their mechanics and thus offer the players a lot of different ways to approach the game, based on their race, matchup, strategy and just overall style they wanna play. Only thing you're saying is that you dislike the race and the way protoss is generally played. So? I think all matchups are interesting and entertaining, sure I have favorites. But saying a race is poorly designed and not entertaining is something else. That's your opinion. I for my part like watching starcraft to enjoy the extreme skill these players put in, not because I wanna see certain matchups. So I respect whichever players are playing the best at the moment, using their uniquely designed race to the best of their abilities. Sure I'm a protoss player and I love seeing protoss do well, but I'm not saying there should be no terrans or zergs in a tournament because they're not entertaining. That's disrespecting the game and the players. to be fair, it's pretty widely considered that TvZ, or TvT are the best matchups. Many toss have said PvP is the worst matchup in the game. Did you see the statistics that Playhem posted-- detailing the "Pros rate of losses to scrubs." PvP was the worst by far with 25%. How is that skill? You say you want to " enjoy the extreme skill these players put in." TvT was at 9.6%. Doesn't that mean that TvT is the most skill intensive matchup in the game? If the better player wins in TvT more than any other matchup? Wait, you probably think TvT is boring. So stop lying about the fact you want to see the most skill, you are no different than the guy with whom you're arguing.
This post made little to no sense to me. PvP is considered one of the worst matchups, sure. Are you really arguing that because these statistics favor TvT, that's the matchup that's the most skill based and therefore only that matchup shows true skill? If yes then I will absolutely not reply to your posts.
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ugh i dont want a pvp finals. will be very disappointing. i hope one of the terran pulls through to the finals
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On April 27 2012 03:00 IMPrime wrote:
One other thing about the days of "gomtvt" was the format back then made it way too forgiving for players to stay in code S. So all those terrans that were already in code S had so many chances to remain there.
Except that if you look at the numbers the proportion of Terrans in Code S actually INCREASED over that time, at the expense of P and Z.
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On April 27 2012 03:10 vnlegend wrote:
Well these results make me sad. Watching Maru play, he's nowhere near the skill level of MKP who has far better micro, macro, timings, reinforcements, rally-points, etc. If MKP was in this group, he would've crushed through all these guys and we'd have a championship-caliber player to slay the Protosses. Too bad he went on tilt and lost to Taeja who only had to play TvT's to get through the group. Who will save us from the Protosses now??
Honestly, I don't see how we could avoid a PvP finals this time. (Not that I'm really complaining, it would be the final matchup to be played in a GSL Final) There's no way Mvp will come out on top on his side of the bracket, unless he manages to edge out NaNi while Oz snipes PartinG in a PvP, and Mvp can then edge out Oz, but that feels pretty far fetched. As for the bottom half, HerO is a bit of a wild card, but more importantly; I don't see either him, SuperNoVa or Taeja taking out Squirtle right now: kid is playing sooo good right now. Which, given that it would probably be a Squirtle vs "some Protoss" final, I think Squirtle is right now the favourite to win this Code S due to having the best PvP out of the remaining tosses right now. It feels very strange to give him the benefit of favoritism, but quite frankly that's where my money lies right now. Regardless, if either he or PartinG comes out on top in the end, it'll be my biggest bias-GSL moment in seemingly forever... the future is looking pretty bright, although it would have been even brighter if Maru had just come out on top in that final game. Still, I'm optimistic.
Edit: Actually I like everyone of the remaining players except Oz and SuperNoVa, so it's definitely an amazing bracket imo, although the lack of Zergs is a little depressing.
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I find it funny how people just asume that PartinG is a one trick pony because he has displayed an outstanding PvT. If you watched the day9 daily today, we got a small taste of his PvZ where he dominated Leenock with incredible game sense and decision making. I feel like this guy really understands the game in all of its aspects, so he can pretty much dominate in any matchup if he gets enough practice.
I think right now, he probably has the best micro in the world (StalkerKing), so PvP shouldnt be a too hard nut for him to crack.
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On April 27 2012 03:40 sc2holar wrote:
I find it funny how people just asume that PartinG is a one trick pony because he has displayed an outstanding PvT. If you watched the day9 daily today, we got a small taste of his PvZ where he dominated Leenock with incredible game sense and decision making. I feel like this guy really understands the game in all of its aspects, so he can pretty much dominate in any matchup if he gets enough practice.
I think right now, he probably has the best micro in the world (StalkerKing), so PvP shouldnt be a too hard nut for him to crack.
His PvZ is also very solid, that much is known, but that's fairly irrelevant right now since, well, there are no more Zergs :/
His PvP however is still relatively unknown. From the little I've seen I think it's very good, but I would still call it his weakest matchup. Whether that will be enough to triumph over Oz and Nani is unclear, but I think it is. I highly doubt he'd be able to take down Squirtle though. (Although they're teammates, so anything could happen)
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On April 27 2012 03:10 vnlegend wrote:
Well these results make me sad. Watching Maru play, he's nowhere near the skill level of MKP who has far better micro, macro, timings, reinforcements, rally-points, etc. If MKP was in this group, he would've crushed through all these guys and we'd have a championship-caliber player to slay the Protosses. Too bad he went on tilt and lost to Taeja who only had to play TvT's to get through the group. Who will save us from the Protosses now??
Noone will save you now, this GSL belongs to Aiur!
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Oh man Maru deserved to advance so badly  Oz didn't look that strong at all.
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On April 27 2012 02:58 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 02:53 xrapture wrote:On April 27 2012 02:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 27 2012 02:16 forsooth wrote:On April 27 2012 00:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 27 2012 00:27 forsooth wrote:On April 27 2012 00:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 23:52 Derez wrote:On April 26 2012 23:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 26 2012 22:56 vthree wrote:
Do Protoss players have selective memory. Why are People saying that
there hasn't been a p>t ro8 in so long when it happened LAST season. And
MADNESS? It occurs just as much as p>t ro8 seasons... It was called GomTvT for a reason. Nothing was worse than GomTvT. People could stay in Code S for seasons on a single matchup. As Artosis says - the best players atm are playing protoss and I agree. There's exceptions but overall there's a sick good protoss lineup of players who are sick good overall. Doesn't change the fact that TvT is a great match-up, while any match-up involving protoss ends up in a massive AoE fest that's absolutely terrible from a spectators point of view. Endgame PvP is just two blobs with lasers everywhere for 20 seconds until someone wins, endgame PvT is ghosts being effective or not followed by 20 seconds of blobs fighting and then going in favor of one of the players. The only variation is when someone tries to all-in early. As a spectator, the fewer protosses in a tournament the more entertaining it is. Now that's where I see that all you really want is terrans advancing because you're biased. Guess that ends the conversation. You clearly don't care about who the better players are. All Terrans advancing isn't as interesting as a good mix of Terrans and Zergs. What I want in a tournament is the best games, and Protoss does not provide that. Protoss is boring to play and worse to watch, painful though it is to state as a former BW Protoss player. I agree with the above sentiment that fewer Protoss pretty much always yields better entertainment from a spectator's point of view. The "best games" as you call it are games where the best players, regardless of their race, display the best skill with what they have at their disposal. Your argument is horribly biased. If you think that TvZ is entertaining then fine, go watch TvZ. That's your opinion and has absolutely nothing to do with balance or general entertainment. That's an exceptionally flawed way of looking at things because it assumes that all the races are well designed and interact with each other in interesting and dynamic ways. If the design of one or all of them sucks, it doesn't matter if you have the best players in the world practice them to death and use them to their fullest potential. The design has to be good to begin with. I feel, as I have felt since I first picked up SC2 and started playing Protoss and started watching GSL, that Protoss is neither well designed on its own or in the way it works in the vT and vZ matchups. That's why SC2 is more entertaining when Protoss is absent, and I think that's a shame. How is it flawed? You feel like protoss is not entertaining or well designed. Umm... cool? Too bad for you I guess. The races are unique in their mechanics and thus offer the players a lot of different ways to approach the game, based on their race, matchup, strategy and just overall style they wanna play. Only thing you're saying is that you dislike the race and the way protoss is generally played. So? I think all matchups are interesting and entertaining, sure I have favorites. But saying a race is poorly designed and not entertaining is something else. That's your opinion. I for my part like watching starcraft to enjoy the extreme skill these players put in, not because I wanna see certain matchups. So I respect whichever players are playing the best at the moment, using their uniquely designed race to the best of their abilities. Sure I'm a protoss player and I love seeing protoss do well, but I'm not saying there should be no terrans or zergs in a tournament because they're not entertaining. That's disrespecting the game and the players. to be fair, it's pretty widely considered that TvZ, or TvT are the best matchups. Many toss have said PvP is the worst matchup in the game. Did you see the statistics that Playhem posted-- detailing the "Pros rate of losses to scrubs." PvP was the worst by far with 25%. How is that skill? You say you want to " enjoy the extreme skill these players put in." TvT was at 9.6%. Doesn't that mean that TvT is the most skill intensive matchup in the game? If the better player wins in TvT more than any other matchup? Wait, you probably think TvT is boring. So stop lying about the fact you want to see the most skill, you are no different than the guy with whom you're arguing. wow, pretty much everyone i know dislike TvZ (from a spectator POV). Again, its probably the most static matchup. PvZ and PvT has a lot mor variety than TvZ wich is essentialy reactor hellion into bio tank ghost viking VS ling baneling muta into broodlords in EVERY SINGLE GAME. 1/20 games the Zerg goes ultralisks, but thats pretty much the only variety you will ever see. on GSL level PvP is extremley skill-based, there are so many aspects that play into the matchup from the very early game to late game; Mind games, Micro, Build Order, Positioning. The reason Pros lose to lesser players is probably because the matchup is so hard that even pros can make those small mistakes that can cost you the game.
? Stephano style mass ling infestor has arose too. TvZ is by far my favorite matchup to watch, but that could just be because of the great matchups that have come up (MMA v DRG, Jjakji v Leenock). It's only recently that PvT has become interesting to watch; in the past it was always my blob vs. your blob. Oh and I dropped once in early game. TvZ has by far the mots interesting moments IMO, with hellion pressure, drops, muta harass, baneling v marine micro, etc etc.
That's one of the reasons I'm missing all the deceased zergs T_T
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On April 27 2012 03:48 tuho12345 wrote:Oh man Maru deserved to advance so badly Oz didn't look that strong at all.
Well in that case PartinG shouldn't have a problem with him, so it's all good, right? 
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On April 27 2012 03:54 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 03:48 tuho12345 wrote:Oh man Maru deserved to advance so badly Oz didn't look that strong at all. Well in that case PartinG shouldn't have a problem with him, so it's all good, right?
Parting's PvP is worse than Oz's. Squirtle is just on another level and made him look bad.
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On April 27 2012 03:56 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 03:54 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 27 2012 03:48 tuho12345 wrote:Oh man Maru deserved to advance so badly Oz didn't look that strong at all. Well in that case PartinG shouldn't have a problem with him, so it's all good, right? Parting's PvP is worse than Oz's. Squirtle is just on another level and made him look bad.
Again, how can we know that for sure? we have seen very little of Partings PvP, you cant judge his skill in a matchup just based on a handful of games. maybe he completley owns the matchup on the Ladder/in practice house games? hes gonna have a lot of time to practice and i honestly think that PartinG is the overall better player, but its hard to predict how that translates into PvP since pretty much anything can happen in that matchup. But im positive PartinG has the better Micro, wich should give him a small edge. Also, dont forget that PartinG is gonna be able to practice his PvP with Squirtle, who will probably teach him alot.
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