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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#2121
On April 25 2012 20:47 Kiyo. wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:45 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:43 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 25 2012 19:00 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:59 Hall0wed wrote:
lol'ing hard at the kids over this past weekend saying Parting's PvT was overrated just because of his MLG performance.

I really want to go and find every post about Parting being overrated now and quote it or PM the person that said it and just laugh in their face. ^_^

Kids can be so silly sometimes. ~_^

Calm down it's only 2 games so far .


Sup son? Like I said Parting got through that easy. ^_~

Lol he didn't look very good in this series anyways, so his PvT is still overrated.


First PvT balance whine, now you're not giving credit to Parting? Are you just trolling or something?


He has a crush on MKP :3

Seems like he is the one that needs to calm down in this thread. Atleast there will be no more opportunities for balance whine tonight.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#2122
On April 25 2012 20:48 Doublemint wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:44 kyllinghest wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:40 Doublemint wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:39 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-

That's daybreak for you, whatever the protoss do (play passive with fast third or be agressive) the terran will lose.
I can't wait till they get rid of this map in the GSL


I just keep quoting you until others start calling you(r bs) out as well - this is fun for me now

I'll quote this aswell, but I agree with Poopi on this. Have you not seen the PvTs on this map Doublemint? There is a reason every protoss picks it. Well played by Parting though.


Yes because it is a rather good map for Toss...?

The map seems pretty balanced in PvT and makes for great macro games if players choose to do so - naturals are easy to take and drops can be quite good on that map as well. It was an important map and that´s why BOTH players chose something gimmicky - it was mainly luck for parting and bad timing/decision making by MKP imho... They are both insanely good players.


Terran don't win often on daybreak cause toss can force lategame... it happens but it's just a bad map like antiga in TvZ or Entombed in PvZ. Autopick which often results in autowin.
Zest fanboy.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38136 Posts
April 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#2123
On April 25 2012 20:46 SwampFox808 wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:44 architecture wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:42 NHY wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:37 FakeDeath wrote:
This was just a build order win. Parting went for a 7 gateway timing all-in.
MKP went for 3 base and was teching and had literally no units.


Yeah sure... except

1) 3rd oc =/= 3rd base
2) no units at mkp's base because he went for drop
3) did I mention that he failed to scout, with scan or scv, for 3rd nexus or timing attack.


Hi, how do you scout with scan or scv for 3rd nexus or timing reliably?



uh you scan for gate count and u use an scv to see if the army is moving out...


Who on earth builds all their gates in somewhere easily scannable if they're going for a huge 2 base timing xD

===

Taeja hwaiting.

Looks like we'll get a classic FE vs tech build in game 1!

et
Profile Joined September 2010
Switzerland367 Posts
April 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#2124
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out?


That he dropped 3-0 to ... Heart?
Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. -- H. L. Mencken
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2174 Posts
April 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#2125
MKP showing his one big flaw once again: overconfidence. It's like he makes his mind up to do something from an assumption and also assumes that if he is wrong it won't matter because he has the best micro. He really needs to start taking his opponents seriously and be aware of what they are doing more.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#2126
On April 25 2012 20:48 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:48 sc14s wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:47 Adreme wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out?


It was luck. It was a good bet but he blindly bet that MKP would go for a build to deal with fast 3 base protoss as opposed to 2 gate pressure. Both of them were blind and while Parting did have some basis to go off of he did basically in the end guess.

Luck doesn't exist in this world only odds play some poker ^.^


When you bet blind in poker its luck.

you mean odds
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
April 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#2127
On April 25 2012 20:48 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:48 sc14s wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:47 Adreme wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out?


It was luck. It was a good bet but he blindly bet that MKP would go for a build to deal with fast 3 base protoss as opposed to 2 gate pressure. Both of them were blind and while Parting did have some basis to go off of he did basically in the end guess.

Luck doesn't exist in this world only odds play some poker ^.^


When you bet blind in poker its luck.


Can bet blind to bully weaker hands out.

Everything is odds and "luck".
tpfkan
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#2128
"Hey guys, mech is the beeeest"

Oh god that killed me
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#2129
On April 25 2012 20:48 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:44 kyllinghest wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:40 Doublemint wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:39 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-

That's daybreak for you, whatever the protoss do (play passive with fast third or be agressive) the terran will lose.
I can't wait till they get rid of this map in the GSL


I just keep quoting you until others start calling you(r bs) out as well - this is fun for me now

I'll quote this aswell, but I agree with Poopi on this. Have you not seen the PvTs on this map Doublemint? There is a reason every protoss picks it. Well played by Parting though.


Yes because it is a rather good map for Toss...?

The map seems pretty balanced in PvT and makes for great macro games if players choose to do so - naturals are easy to take and drops can be quite good on that map as well. It was an important map and that´s why BOTH players chose something gimmicky - it was mainly luck for parting and bad timing/decision making by MKP imho... They are both insanely good players.

Lets agree to disagree. Gogo Taeja now!
"NO" -Has
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4452 Posts
April 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#2130
On April 25 2012 20:48 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out?


Parting did a BLIND 7 Gateway all-in.It was a coinflip build.


Woah woah woah, now you're implying he had no basis to 7 gate. Boy if you were a pro-gamer for a day..
hi. big fan.
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
April 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#2131
Artosis: "Hay guiz mech is da bess!"
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
April 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#2132
Lol Artosis trolling his mech obssesion !
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
April 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#2133
On April 25 2012 20:49 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:47 Kiyo. wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:45 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:43 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 25 2012 19:00 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:59 Hall0wed wrote:
lol'ing hard at the kids over this past weekend saying Parting's PvT was overrated just because of his MLG performance.

I really want to go and find every post about Parting being overrated now and quote it or PM the person that said it and just laugh in their face. ^_^

Kids can be so silly sometimes. ~_^

Calm down it's only 2 games so far .


Sup son? Like I said Parting got through that easy. ^_~

Lol he didn't look very good in this series anyways, so his PvT is still overrated.


First PvT balance whine, now you're not giving credit to Parting? Are you just trolling or something?


He has a crush on MKP :3

Seems like he is the one that needs to calm down in this thread. Atleast there will be no more opportunities for balance whine tonight.


But MKP's TvT is pretty imbalanced. Needs a nerf imo.
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dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 11:52:10
April 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#2134
On April 25 2012 20:50 Hollow wrote:
MKP showing his one big flaw once again: overconfidence. It's like he makes his mind up to do something from an assumption and also assumes that if he is wrong it won't matter because he has the best micro. He really needs to start taking his opponents seriously and be aware of what they are doing more.


He ALWAYS goes for it..... that's why we love him. Its his greatest strength and his greatest weakness.

Because he "goes for it" so often, he's become very expert at making aggression work, uniquely so almost, but it also makes him beatable.

That's the nature of MKP.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#2135
On April 25 2012 20:49 teamamerica wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:45 sAsImre wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:41 nt-rAven wrote:
Parting going to get metagamed next time with ghosts~ any kind of ghost play and he gets owned but no terran does it early enough~ MKP didn't play well at all, but im happy a Protoss is actually going through well faught series and well worth watching~


time to use again the 4rax ghost timing :D


Actually wtf are you saying MKP didn't play well till his retarded drop timing game 3. Anyway the strength of ghost timing punishes a toss relying heavily on sentry for defense but Parting gets out tons of just units, not sentry really. And then chargelots, so with fast medivacs you can't stim a lot. Have to see timings I guess in an actual game.


hmm, just 2emps on clump zealots and it's a free win. Parting doesn't make a lot of sentries when he's not aiming for a timing.
Zest fanboy.
ReadySetFire
Profile Joined October 2011
Kuwait545 Posts
April 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#2136
triple kill
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
April 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#2137
On April 25 2012 20:37 Maitolasi wrote:
YES
Parting will win Code S.
I also hope that crushed MKPs spirit so that he'll lose the next TvT and Taeja will advance


Agree!
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#2138
(T)oGsTheStC v (T)Liquid_TaeJa
0 - 0

Maps:
Metropolis


5.00
(T)oGsTheStC spawning as the red Terran in the 12 o'cock position.
(T)Liquid_TaeJa spawning as the blue Terran in the 6 o'clock position.

Both players getting their Rax on 12.
Refinery added on for StC on 13.

TaeJa goes for CC after the Rax.
StC proxying a Factory on TaeJa's third!

TaeJa getting his CC in his main while taking two gas.
StC taking the second gas in his main.

Starport added on next to the proxied Factory for Stc.
Factory down for TaeJa.

2 marines v 2 marines outside StC's main, TaeJa manages to win the confrontation with a hero marine.

@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 25 2012 11:52 GMT
#2139
STC channelling coL.Heart
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
April 25 2012 11:52 GMT
#2140
On April 25 2012 20:46 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:43 Megabuster123 wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:41 sc14s wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:40 Megabuster123 wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:38 architecture wrote:
The issue is like Idra said for the game in general.

Theres no way to scout or determine builds before having to react to them. Builds hit too fast and you are locked into them too long.

Obviously he meant this in context of ZvT, but Z have essentially learned that practically all early T timings can be blocked with similar responses. Additional tech like roach warren/bane nest aren't too much of a cost and Z production is more explosive than T.

In contrast, P is far more explosive than T. You can play super safe every game and survive to mid game, but you will manhandled when P greeds instead. The issue of course is that the greed is practically undetectable, which could be manageable except for the explosiveness of warpin when he doesn't greed.

Except MKP could've held that if he didn't have a dropship worth of marines not in the fight at the beginning...>_>



But he didn't and lost so it doesn't matter.

What does that even mean?

apparently english is hard for you to read.

you were stating MKP could've held that and i was stating he didn't so your bitching of what ifs is irrelevant.

Apparently you didn't even pay attention to what I was responding to so your response doesn't even make any sense. I'm not bitching about MKP losing. or Protoss timings or anything like that. I'm responding to that person's criticism of the game...>_>
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