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dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
April 25 2012 11:47 GMT
#2101
If you rush to 3 CC's, you need to at least see the army coming.

Loading up his marines for a drop was just too much of a risk without knowing what his opponent was doing. Parting showed this.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
April 25 2012 11:47 GMT
#2102
On April 25 2012 20:46 SwampFox808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:44 architecture wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:42 NHY wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:37 FakeDeath wrote:
This was just a build order win. Parting went for a 7 gateway timing all-in.
MKP went for 3 base and was teching and had literally no units.


Yeah sure... except

1) 3rd oc =/= 3rd base
2) no units at mkp's base because he went for drop
3) did I mention that he failed to scout, with scan or scv, for 3rd nexus or timing attack.


Hi, how do you scout with scan or scv for 3rd nexus or timing reliably?



uh you scan for gate count and u use an scv to see if the army is moving out...


?
What timing do you scan at?

Where do you scan?

Gates and army can be anywhere.

Or do you like to just put them in the middle of your base where scans go?
tpfkan
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
April 25 2012 11:47 GMT
#2103
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out?


It was luck. It was a good bet but he blindly bet that MKP would go for a build to deal with fast 3 base protoss as opposed to 2 gate pressure. Both of them were blind and while Parting did have some basis to go off of he did basically in the end guess.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
April 25 2012 11:47 GMT
#2104
On April 25 2012 20:45 Poopi wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:43 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 25 2012 19:00 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:59 Hall0wed wrote:
lol'ing hard at the kids over this past weekend saying Parting's PvT was overrated just because of his MLG performance.

I really want to go and find every post about Parting being overrated now and quote it or PM the person that said it and just laugh in their face. ^_^

Kids can be so silly sometimes. ~_^

Calm down it's only 2 games so far .


Sup son? Like I said Parting got through that easy. ^_~

Lol he didn't look very good in this series anyways, so his PvT is still overrated.


First PvT balance whine, now you're not giving credit to Parting? Are you just trolling or something?
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Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
April 25 2012 11:47 GMT
#2105
Wolf and his fascination for hair! lol
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 25 2012 11:47 GMT
#2106
Dear god Wolf don't copy his hair
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2107
On April 25 2012 20:44 Belisarius wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:40 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:39 tuestresfat wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:35 Fubi wrote:
Terran has better early games guys

What?
Everyone knows that protoss is the strongest early game and late game.

uhhh... wat

What what?
Ask Jinro even he said it.


Jinro was vocal about having trouble with toss even during the days of the sad zealot fanclub. I wouldn't consider him a great judge of the matchup.


True. More generally, it's always funny when people quote a pro of race X complaining that race Y or Z is too strong. Yeah... pros may know a lot about the game, but the way they complain about balance almost always falls along racial lines. It's funny when people try to make arguments from authority because the "authorities" often disagree with each other depending on what race they play.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2108
On April 25 2012 20:44 kyllinghest wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:40 Doublemint wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:39 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-

That's daybreak for you, whatever the protoss do (play passive with fast third or be agressive) the terran will lose.
I can't wait till they get rid of this map in the GSL


I just keep quoting you until others start calling you(r bs) out as well - this is fun for me now

I'll quote this aswell, but I agree with Poopi on this. Have you not seen the PvTs on this map Doublemint? There is a reason every protoss picks it. Well played by Parting though.


Yes because it is a rather good map for Toss...?

The map seems pretty balanced in PvT and makes for great macro games if players choose to do so - naturals are easy to take and drops can be quite good on that map as well. It was an important map and that´s why BOTH players chose something gimmicky - it was mainly luck for parting and bad timing/decision making by MKP imho... They are both insanely good players.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2109
On April 25 2012 20:41 KaRath_ wrote:
I love it how people just go "OMG PARTING WON SUCK IT MKP FANBOYS" or "GSTL REVENGE".

Seriously, a set of good matches only strengthens a healthy rivalry. I won't be surprised if ST_Parting and MarineKingPrime become like what Bisu and Flash become (except in SC2, and maybe less legendary. Because Flash and Bisu are more legendary)


Considering BW pros will probably be playing SC2 full time in a few months, Flash and Bisu will probably be the the Flash and Bisu of SC2
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2110
On April 25 2012 20:45 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:43 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:41 Kiyo. wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:40 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:39 tuestresfat wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:35 Fubi wrote:
Terran has better early games guys

What?
Everyone knows that protoss is the strongest early game and late game.

uhhh... wat

What what?
Ask Jinro even he said it.


Because he clearly has an unbiased viewpoint...

Ask any protoss then LOL.
You really do think that they fear the "terran early game" more than... the medivacs / stim timings? Which are midgame.
What's so hard to understand.

Why are you so aggressive? Don't get your jimmies rustled man, there's a place for your banter, it isn't here.


ignorants are boring that's all.
Zest fanboy.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2111
On April 25 2012 20:47 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out?


It was luck. It was a good bet but he blindly bet that MKP would go for a build to deal with fast 3 base protoss as opposed to 2 gate pressure. Both of them were blind and while Parting did have some basis to go off of he did basically in the end guess.

Luck doesn't exist in this world only odds play some poker ^.^
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2112
Poll: Who do you want to win?

TaeJa (13)
 
59%

TheStC (9)
 
41%

22 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): TheStC
(Vote): TaeJa

CursivE
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia317 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2113
On April 25 2012 20:45 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:43 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 25 2012 19:00 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:59 Hall0wed wrote:
lol'ing hard at the kids over this past weekend saying Parting's PvT was overrated just because of his MLG performance.

I really want to go and find every post about Parting being overrated now and quote it or PM the person that said it and just laugh in their face. ^_^

Kids can be so silly sometimes. ~_^

Calm down it's only 2 games so far .


Sup son? Like I said Parting got through that easy. ^_~

Lol he didn't look very good in this series anyways, so his PvT is still overrated.


In this case, he'll never impress you. The best PvT player in the world is overrated against T??

I don't see how you could rate him any different.
MC || HuK || MMA || Squirtle || TLO || Sea || HerO || MarineKing || MVP || NesTea
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2114
oGsTL vs oGsTL, rooting for a tie!
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2115
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out?


Parting did a BLIND 7 Gateway all-in.It was a coinflip build.

Play your best
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 11:49:42
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2116
On April 25 2012 20:48 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:47 Adreme wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out?


It was luck. It was a good bet but he blindly bet that MKP would go for a build to deal with fast 3 base protoss as opposed to 2 gate pressure. Both of them were blind and while Parting did have some basis to go off of he did basically in the end guess.

Luck doesn't exist in this world only odds play some poker ^.^


Starcraft is a game of odds.

It's all about accumulating advantages by taking odds and forcing mistakes.

There's no mythic pure "skill" where two players just sit and macro and micro armies until the game is over.
tpfkan
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
April 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#2117
On April 25 2012 20:48 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:47 Adreme wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out?


It was luck. It was a good bet but he blindly bet that MKP would go for a build to deal with fast 3 base protoss as opposed to 2 gate pressure. Both of them were blind and while Parting did have some basis to go off of he did basically in the end guess.

Luck doesn't exist in this world only odds play some poker ^.^


When you bet blind in poker its luck.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 11:49:10
April 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#2118
On April 25 2012 20:47 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:45 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:43 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 25 2012 19:00 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:59 Hall0wed wrote:
lol'ing hard at the kids over this past weekend saying Parting's PvT was overrated just because of his MLG performance.

I really want to go and find every post about Parting being overrated now and quote it or PM the person that said it and just laugh in their face. ^_^

Kids can be so silly sometimes. ~_^

Calm down it's only 2 games so far .


Sup son? Like I said Parting got through that easy. ^_~

Lol he didn't look very good in this series anyways, so his PvT is still overrated.


First PvT balance whine, now you're not giving credit to Parting? Are you just trolling or something?

Just a big MKP fan. 1-1-1 and 7 gate wins brings out the worst in comments from the opposing races.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#2119
TheStC! GOGOGOGO, Can't wait to come home and catch the VODs TT
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
April 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#2120
On April 25 2012 20:45 sAsImre wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:41 nt-rAven wrote:
Parting going to get metagamed next time with ghosts~ any kind of ghost play and he gets owned but no terran does it early enough~ MKP didn't play well at all, but im happy a Protoss is actually going through well faught series and well worth watching~


time to use again the 4rax ghost timing :D


Actually wtf are you saying MKP didn't play well till his retarded drop timing game 3. Anyway the strength of ghost timing punishes a toss relying heavily on sentry for defense but Parting gets out tons of just units, not sentry really. And then chargelots, so with fast medivacs you can't stim a lot. Have to see timings I guess in an actual game.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
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