EPTLoading up his marines for a drop was just too much of a risk without knowing what his opponent was doing. Parting showed this.
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
Loading up his marines for a drop was just too much of a risk without knowing what his opponent was doing. Parting showed this. | ||
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architecture
United States643 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:46 SwampFox808 wrote: uh you scan for gate count and u use an scv to see if the army is moving out... ? What timing do you scan at? Where do you scan? Gates and army can be anywhere. Or do you like to just put them in the middle of your base where scans go? | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote: what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out? It was luck. It was a good bet but he blindly bet that MKP would go for a build to deal with fast 3 base protoss as opposed to 2 gate pressure. Both of them were blind and while Parting did have some basis to go off of he did basically in the end guess. | ||
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Kiyo.
United States2284 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:45 Poopi wrote: Lol he didn't look very good in this series anyways, so his PvT is still overrated. First PvT balance whine, now you're not giving credit to Parting? Are you just trolling or something? | ||
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:44 Belisarius wrote: Jinro was vocal about having trouble with toss even during the days of the sad zealot fanclub. I wouldn't consider him a great judge of the matchup. True. More generally, it's always funny when people quote a pro of race X complaining that race Y or Z is too strong. Yeah... pros may know a lot about the game, but the way they complain about balance almost always falls along racial lines. It's funny when people try to make arguments from authority because the "authorities" often disagree with each other depending on what race they play. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8704 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:44 kyllinghest wrote: I'll quote this aswell, but I agree with Poopi on this. Have you not seen the PvTs on this map Doublemint? There is a reason every protoss picks it. Well played by Parting though. Yes because it is a rather good map for Toss...? The map seems pretty balanced in PvT and makes for great macro games if players choose to do so - naturals are easy to take and drops can be quite good on that map as well. It was an important map and that´s why BOTH players chose something gimmicky - it was mainly luck for parting and bad timing/decision making by MKP imho... They are both insanely good players. | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:41 KaRath_ wrote: I love it how people just go "OMG PARTING WON SUCK IT MKP FANBOYS" or "GSTL REVENGE". Seriously, a set of good matches only strengthens a healthy rivalry. I won't be surprised if ST_Parting and MarineKingPrime become like what Bisu and Flash become (except in SC2, and maybe less legendary. Because Flash and Bisu are more legendary) Considering BW pros will probably be playing SC2 full time in a few months, Flash and Bisu will probably be the the Flash and Bisu of SC2  | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:45 FataLe wrote: Why are you so aggressive? Don't get your jimmies rustled man, there's a place for your banter, it isn't here. ignorants are boring that's all. | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:47 Adreme wrote: It was luck. It was a good bet but he blindly bet that MKP would go for a build to deal with fast 3 base protoss as opposed to 2 gate pressure. Both of them were blind and while Parting did have some basis to go off of he did basically in the end guess. Luck doesn't exist in this world only odds  play some poker ^.^ | ||
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regizer239
Guam327 Posts
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CursivE
Australia317 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:45 Poopi wrote: Lol he didn't look very good in this series anyways, so his PvT is still overrated. In this case, he'll never impress you. The best PvT player in the world is overrated against T?? I don't see how you could rate him any different. | ||
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:45 masterchip27 wrote: what makes you think it was LUCK, and not just amazing timing from somebody who knows this match up inside out? Parting did a BLIND 7 Gateway all-in.It was a coinflip build. | ||
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architecture
United States643 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:48 sc14s wrote: Luck doesn't exist in this world only odds play some poker ^.^Starcraft is a game of odds. It's all about accumulating advantages by taking odds and forcing mistakes. There's no mythic pure "skill" where two players just sit and macro and micro armies until the game is over. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:48 sc14s wrote: Luck doesn't exist in this world only odds play some poker ^.^When you bet blind in poker its luck. | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
On April 25 2012 20:47 Kiyo. wrote: First PvT balance whine, now you're not giving credit to Parting? Are you just trolling or something? Just a big MKP fan. 1-1-1 and 7 gate wins brings out the worst in comments from the opposing races. | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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teamamerica
United States958 Posts
Actually wtf are you saying MKP didn't play well till his retarded drop timing game 3. Anyway the strength of ghost timing punishes a toss relying heavily on sentry for defense but Parting gets out tons of just units, not sentry really. And then chargelots, so with fast medivacs you can't stim a lot. Have to see timings I guess in an actual game. | ||
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