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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1361
Why would Leenock run in there with 25% of his army? Now his big push is gonna be waaay weaker.
Razakel
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland466 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1362
Dat sentry micro
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1363
On April 19 2012 19:49 FidoDido wrote:
I just realized, TvT mech vs mech on this map would take forever.


The 3 gaz base allows a quicker transition into sky terran and you can still move around.

0 ff left for hero, pretty grim...
Zest fanboy.
hugedong
Profile Joined June 2010
United States510 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1364
holy fuck
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1365
On April 19 2012 19:49 liberate71 wrote:
12 Minute Max Time?

No, Hero already delayed the timing because he forced a lot of units :p
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1366
On April 19 2012 19:45 Cereb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 19:43 Fabsi wrote:
On April 19 2012 19:39 BuzZoo wrote:
I still think queens should be able to stomp FF. Would make very little difference to the game except for stopping this kind of stuff. Queens are too slow off creep for it to be of much use offensively.


fully agreed. the ramp FF tactics remind me of the 3 pylon/canon rush on ladder maps w/o the neutral depot. similar mechanics and equally hard to deal with.



That would make them massive wouldn't it? Which would make voids alot better vs queens right? So air play would become insanely strong.

Queen being massive would kill air strategies since they couldn't been picked up by phoenixes.


FF should just have health, a lot of health so it would never be a good idea to fire at them outside of that strategy.
That way you would force the protoss to burn the ff faster if the zerg wasn't greedy, which is good.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1367
my god, herO is so good. OO
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1368
That micro...


DO WANT!
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1369
On April 19 2012 19:49 Asha` wrote:
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On April 19 2012 19:47 GreyKnight wrote:
im not sure why people think queens should be able to crush forcefields, it is not the solution if that strat was imbalanced. that means protoss would never be able to pressure or do timings vs zerg with queens crushing everything.


I think you overestimate Queen speed and positioning in typical circumstances. You could make it cost energy too I suppose if you're worried people would just make a bunch more queens.

I believe someone proposed this exact idea. An energy based special trait that allows them to stomp forcefields.
Long live the King of Wings
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1370
Map with the easiest fourth and fifth to take? Time to three base!

Silly Leenock.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1371
actually Artosis he said it was like watching someone fish.

So it was a simile
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1372
On April 19 2012 19:44 rothsbury wrote:
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On April 19 2012 19:41 Kommander wrote:
On April 19 2012 19:40 rothsbury wrote:
On April 19 2012 19:39 Scila wrote:
Hero is another level of Protoss. Making all the foreign Protoss who sit on 3 base and mass Colossus or do 2 base all-ins look like a joke. Very smart and impressive play, especially for a race where it's hard to show the difference between good players and REALLY good players.

Yeah, knowing how to press f and click must have taken days off practice... not to mention blinking his army into banelings.


Oh please stop it with the butthurt attitude.

I've got nothing against hero, but i'm sick of all the stupid mindless fans who are like "oh wow that was amazing, he's the best player in the world, showing anohter level of protoss". He got a lucky forcefield off, and there's not much more to it than that. When he did engage leenock directly he derped and lost everything, but that one forcefield had put him so far ahead. That sort of build doesn't take much skill to execute; if you're lucky enough to get that ff down it's basically over.


Yeah, that's why we see foreign Tosses having so much success against top Korean Zergs like Leenock... I don't really understand the argument that "blah blah doesn't take much skill to execute" because many effective, powerful things in SC2 don't take that much skill to execute in terms of micro. Dropping stimmed marines and killing a shitton of workers? Baneling bust? Mass roach bust? Forcefields? The point is not that stuff like that is hard to execute, it's more about a player keeping up his multitasking, doing other important things while doing stuff like that, while controlling well. Only yesterday I saw Lure vs. Shine, with Lure trying a warp prism + sentry drop into the main like HerO did, and it got completely shut down thanks to Lure's miscontrol. So, either Lure is a terrible noob for screwing up something that "doesn't take much skill to execute", or it's a bit harder to execute than you give it credit for.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
April 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#1373
meh does evey single forcefield have to be "WOW OMG BEST FF EVER!"..
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 19 2012 10:51 GMT
#1374
man that was so much more impressive defending the 3rd than the whole last game total.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
April 19 2012 10:51 GMT
#1375
"HerO's on another level" blah blah :p
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 19 2012 10:51 GMT
#1376
gg TT
eXeHephaistas
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands144 Posts
April 19 2012 10:51 GMT
#1377
GO Leenock crush that abusing protoss
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 19 2012 10:51 GMT
#1378
don't know if this is the best map for this TT
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
April 19 2012 10:51 GMT
#1379
On April 19 2012 19:50 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 19:45 Cereb wrote:
On April 19 2012 19:43 Fabsi wrote:
On April 19 2012 19:39 BuzZoo wrote:
I still think queens should be able to stomp FF. Would make very little difference to the game except for stopping this kind of stuff. Queens are too slow off creep for it to be of much use offensively.


fully agreed. the ramp FF tactics remind me of the 3 pylon/canon rush on ladder maps w/o the neutral depot. similar mechanics and equally hard to deal with.



That would make them massive wouldn't it? Which would make voids alot better vs queens right? So air play would become insanely strong.

Queen being massive would kill air strategies since they couldn't been picked up by phoenixes.


FF should just have health, a lot of health so it would never be a good idea to fire at them outside of that strategy.
That way you would force the protoss to burn the ff faster if the zerg wasn't greedy, which is good.

Yeah I think health on FF is a great idea, and not just for the ramp blocking situation.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
April 19 2012 10:52 GMT
#1380
Leenock showing off his sick micro as well!
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