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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
April 17 2012 23:46 GMT
#21
I want Nani/Genius but it's more likely to be Supernova/Genius or Supernova/Nani, depending on the Nani vs Genius games. Naniwa beat him in GSTL a few months back and both of them have become a lot better since then. It'll be interesting to see who wins now.

Genius vP = 63.2%; vT = 53.3%
Naniwa vP = 65.2%; vT = 66.2%
Supernova vP = 64.5%; vT = 56.7%
Virus vP = 51.7%; vT = 39.1%
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 17 2012 23:49 GMT
#22
On April 18 2012 08:42 SenorChang wrote:
bit of a shame that nani has to play so soon after his ro32 games. hope he had enough time to prep for it. same with virus, but both have been lookin good lately


I think Korean players might even benefit a bit more from preparation due to coaching and more/better(?) practice partners. Although Nani seems pretty well off in the StarTale house, I don't think playing again so soon is too disadvantageous for him.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4729 Posts
April 17 2012 23:52 GMT
#23
On April 18 2012 08:49 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 08:42 SenorChang wrote:
bit of a shame that nani has to play so soon after his ro32 games. hope he had enough time to prep for it. same with virus, but both have been lookin good lately


I think Korean players might even benefit a bit more from preparation due to coaching and more/better(?) practice partners. Although Nani seems pretty well off in the StarTale house, I don't think playing again so soon is too disadvantageous for him.

yea he used it to his advantage too because in group nominations he said that his reason for picking supernova was that he is better with the more time he has to prep, so limiting his time to a couple days should give him a better chance
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BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
April 17 2012 23:54 GMT
#24
On April 18 2012 08:49 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 08:42 SenorChang wrote:
bit of a shame that nani has to play so soon after his ro32 games. hope he had enough time to prep for it. same with virus, but both have been lookin good lately


I think Korean players might even benefit a bit more from preparation due to coaching and more/better(?) practice partners. Although Nani seems pretty well off in the StarTale house, I don't think playing again so soon is too disadvantageous for him.


Naniwa chose Supernova quoting the fact that he wants to exploit the fact that the weaker Code S players don't play nearly as well with such little preparation.

It think Nani is comfortable knowing the people in his group can't prepare so much for his play style, even though he is suffering the same fate.. But his opponents are pretty good. Happy for Virus for making a great showing in the Ro32.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 17 2012 23:56 GMT
#25
c'mon nani ruin my liquibets!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
April 18 2012 00:00 GMT
#26
KEEP VOTING PPL!

Quick Question guys, I had a guy PM me something interesting, and I was wondering if you guys would look at it and give me your opinion.


hey man,

i'm a habitual lurker and my primary usage of TeamLiquid is looking at the "Recommended Games" subsection of your threads, which helps me to prevent watching terrible cheese games and terrible play. props for all the work you do on this forum!

i just wanted to make a suggestion -- as it currently stands, the Recommended Games subsection is misused by the majority of the forum and is not as useful as it could potentially be. i would recommend either:

A. removing the "If you have time" option. i love that you create a poll for every game regardless of the length of the series, but people are primarily using this option for games which do not exist, which spoils the results.

B. expanding the options -- most people would rate games as either Excellent, Great, Good, Fair, or Avoid -- or something of that nature. or you could just do a star system, 1-5 stars.

option B wouldn't help to relieve spoilers because people would probably vote randomly, but it would provide more useful information about how good the games are. option A would alleviate spoilers and provide basically the same information as does the current system.

considering teamliquid is spoiling games on their front page now, i don't know much anyone gives a shit about that anymore!! but yeah, i think either of the above options with be an improvement over the current system that is in place.

to the future!!


Poll: What do you think?

Go with Idea B (143)
 
83%

Go with Idea A (16)
 
9%

Stick to the original 3 (11)
 
6%

Other (specfiy) (2)
 
1%

172 total votes

Your vote: What do you think?

(Vote): Go with Idea A
(Vote): Go with Idea B
(Vote): Stick to the original 3
(Vote): Other (specfiy)

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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 18 2012 00:06 GMT
#27
nani/genius advance
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 18 2012 00:27 GMT
#28
On April 18 2012 08:54 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 08:49 StarVe wrote:
On April 18 2012 08:42 SenorChang wrote:
bit of a shame that nani has to play so soon after his ro32 games. hope he had enough time to prep for it. same with virus, but both have been lookin good lately


I think Korean players might even benefit a bit more from preparation due to coaching and more/better(?) practice partners. Although Nani seems pretty well off in the StarTale house, I don't think playing again so soon is too disadvantageous for him.


Naniwa chose Supernova quoting the fact that he wants to exploit the fact that the weaker Code S players don't play nearly as well with such little preparation.

It think Nani is comfortable knowing the people in his group can't prepare so much for his play style, even though he is suffering the same fate.. But his opponents are pretty good. Happy for Virus for making a great showing in the Ro32.


It has nothing to do with "weaker Code S players" and everything to do with "Supernova".
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 18 2012 00:48 GMT
#29
On April 18 2012 09:00 SeeKeR wrote:
KEEP VOTING PPL!

Quick Question guys, I had a guy PM me something interesting, and I was wondering if you guys would look at it and give me your opinion.

Show nested quote +

hey man,

i'm a habitual lurker and my primary usage of TeamLiquid is looking at the "Recommended Games" subsection of your threads, which helps me to prevent watching terrible cheese games and terrible play. props for all the work you do on this forum!

i just wanted to make a suggestion -- as it currently stands, the Recommended Games subsection is misused by the majority of the forum and is not as useful as it could potentially be. i would recommend either:

A. removing the "If you have time" option. i love that you create a poll for every game regardless of the length of the series, but people are primarily using this option for games which do not exist, which spoils the results.

B. expanding the options -- most people would rate games as either Excellent, Great, Good, Fair, or Avoid -- or something of that nature. or you could just do a star system, 1-5 stars.

option B wouldn't help to relieve spoilers because people would probably vote randomly, but it would provide more useful information about how good the games are. option A would alleviate spoilers and provide basically the same information as does the current system.

considering teamliquid is spoiling games on their front page now, i don't know much anyone gives a shit about that anymore!! but yeah, i think either of the above options with be an improvement over the current system that is in place.

to the future!!


Poll: What do you think?

Go with Idea B (143)
 
83%

Go with Idea A (16)
 
9%

Stick to the original 3 (11)
 
6%

Other (specfiy) (2)
 
1%

172 total votes

Your vote: What do you think?

(Vote): Go with Idea A
(Vote): Go with Idea B
(Vote): Stick to the original 3
(Vote): Other (specfiy)



Someone, before you used to do LR threads, trialed putting up a 5 star rating system. It got mixed reviews, but I think it was much better.

The complaints were basically that a star rating can "spoil the quality of the game" and some people used the Yes/Ifyouhavetime/No system regardless of game quality. I mean some of the most entertaining games are still only something like a 3 star game.

Definitely don't do A please. I find there are a lot of games that I honestly rate "If you have time" because it was ok to watch, but not necessarily bad or good. Maybe had a moment or two, but wasn't amazing. I think B is preferable, but do note that the purpose of rating will change very slightly. It will go from level of entertainment to the level of game quality. That's sort of just how people perceive stars, and I'm personally ok with it.
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
April 18 2012 00:55 GMT
#30
On April 18 2012 09:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 08:54 BretZ wrote:
On April 18 2012 08:49 StarVe wrote:
On April 18 2012 08:42 SenorChang wrote:
bit of a shame that nani has to play so soon after his ro32 games. hope he had enough time to prep for it. same with virus, but both have been lookin good lately


I think Korean players might even benefit a bit more from preparation due to coaching and more/better(?) practice partners. Although Nani seems pretty well off in the StarTale house, I don't think playing again so soon is too disadvantageous for him.


Naniwa chose Supernova quoting the fact that he wants to exploit the fact that the weaker Code S players don't play nearly as well with such little preparation.

It think Nani is comfortable knowing the people in his group can't prepare so much for his play style, even though he is suffering the same fate.. But his opponents are pretty good. Happy for Virus for making a great showing in the Ro32.


It has nothing to do with "weaker Code S players" and everything to do with "Supernova".


This is how SuperNoVa almost lost to ReaL. It must be weird being a preparation based player.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Snackysnacks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States411 Posts
April 18 2012 01:19 GMT
#31
Yeah ive actually avoided the "recommended games" untill after i watch most of the matches i wished not to be spoiled for, since its kinda obvious why some fans would be mad for "bad" games.

Anyways, on that topic, im calling nani to make it out of the group and this thread filled with 100+ pages of people downplaying him for his opponents making mistakes, giving free wins, or being tilted.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
April 18 2012 01:52 GMT
#32
Stoked for this, hopefully NaNi advances.

Regarding the voting, I think that B would be the best and how it should've been all along.
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 01:55:13
April 18 2012 01:54 GMT
#33
I saw something like this before in a trading card magazine.

5 stars - game of the year candidate
4 stars - epic
3 stars - great
2 stars - good
1 star - ok
Zero - bad

A five star rating system, but only good games get stars. The reason is that nobody cares about differentiations between bad games, they just won't watch, but they do care about the difference between "good" and "great".

Naniwa going to ro8 would be amazing for GOM! I hope it happens, though I am not a fan, I love to see people on the forum happy
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
April 18 2012 01:55 GMT
#34
genius and nani hopefully. if not i'll be satifisfied with just genius
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
April 18 2012 02:02 GMT
#35
mother of god.

this is going to be awesome

btw the 5 star rating system could be good and id say give it a try. as of now people are just voting yes on games where people they like win and no on games where their favorites lose/drop out. its not r eally used properly so yeah 5 stars would probably be best
Maruprime.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
April 18 2012 02:16 GMT
#36
Nani/Virus (arguably the underdogs) to advance.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 02:30:24
April 18 2012 02:28 GMT
#37
Hope a couple games are played on Kulas Ravine today.

Also the PM dude is right, it just never mattered enough to me for me to complain. But the few times that I haven't watched the games live the thing that really annoyed me was having voting on the 3rd map of a series when that game wasn't even played. Really throws me off while browsing on my phone.
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
April 18 2012 02:32 GMT
#38
Virus and Genius to advance.
Play your best
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 18 2012 02:42 GMT
#39
On April 18 2012 08:46 Yonnua wrote:
I want Nani/Genius but it's more likely to be Supernova/Genius or Supernova/Nani, depending on the Nani vs Genius games. Naniwa beat him in GSTL a few months back and both of them have become a lot better since then. It'll be interesting to see who wins now.

Genius vP = 63.2%; vT = 53.3%
Naniwa vP = 65.2%; vT = 66.2%
Supernova vP = 64.5%; vT = 56.7%
Virus vP = 51.7%; vT = 39.1%



You took Naniwa's foreign record. In Korea he has a 33% win rate vs T (6 games) and 75% winrate vs P (4 games). (and a 0-8 rate against zerg -___-)
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
April 18 2012 02:54 GMT
#40
If you're going to use Naniwa's foreign record, at least limit it just the last 6 months since he actually played a lot of Koreans overseas.
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