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Bleb
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia278 Posts
April 18 2012 16:36 GMT
#2981
Finaly seeded foreigner that didnt make me feel like crap
gj nani!
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
April 18 2012 16:37 GMT
#2982
If Naniwa makes it past the next round, or at least puts up a very good fight he will have me sold. The player he faces next round will be much tougher than any he's faced in Code S this season.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
April 18 2012 16:47 GMT
#2983
On April 19 2012 01:36 Bleb wrote:
Finaly seeded foreigner that didnt make me feel like crap
gj nani!

It gives me a warm feeling that HuK made it to the ro8 code S on his own merit, with no seed. However, grats Nani.
oGsMc - EGHuK - White-Ra - SlayerSBoxeR - STBomber Fighting!~
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
April 18 2012 16:47 GMT
#2984
On April 19 2012 01:37 xrapture wrote:
If Naniwa makes it past the next round, or at least puts up a very good fight he will have me sold. The player he faces next round will be much tougher than any he's faced in Code S this season.


I've seen him beat some good zergs in the last few months.. hopefully he can go up vs Leenock or July I think he would have a good chance then.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
April 18 2012 16:48 GMT
#2985
On April 19 2012 01:47 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 01:36 Bleb wrote:
Finaly seeded foreigner that didnt make me feel like crap
gj nani!

It gives me a warm feeling that HuK made it to the ro8 code S on his own merit, with no seed. However, grats Nani.


If you want to get technical Huk got a seed into GSL, and managed to stick around for a while, before getting into the Ro8. He might never have qualified if not for the original seed
Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
April 18 2012 16:51 GMT
#2986
On April 19 2012 01:48 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 01:47 Ventor wrote:
On April 19 2012 01:36 Bleb wrote:
Finaly seeded foreigner that didnt make me feel like crap
gj nani!

It gives me a warm feeling that HuK made it to the ro8 code S on his own merit, with no seed. However, grats Nani.


If you want to get technical Huk got a seed into GSL, and managed to stick around for a while, before getting into the Ro8. He might never have qualified if not for the original seed

Going through code A was actually harder back then to be honest.
oGsMc - EGHuK - White-Ra - SlayerSBoxeR - STBomber Fighting!~
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 16:58:20
April 18 2012 16:53 GMT
#2987
Genius made a bad decision picking Naniwa. Naniwa's PvP is around the same level as HuK, and HuK's PvP is >= every top Protoss in Korea - Parting, Oz, Hero, MC, Puzzle, etc.

Genius's PvP, meanwhile, isn't that great. He's beaten Seed, MC, and Sage, but he's lost to Naniwa, Hero, and Puzzle. That's not a record to wager against Naniwa, who hasn't lost a series to a Protoss other than HuK in 2012, and who's beaten every top Korean Protoss he's come up against this year.

Naniwa's managed to dodge top ZvPers thus far, which is good for him, but he's also managed to dodge very solid TvPers. Virus has great wins under his belt, but he's not super solid and experienced. But then again, that's where Squirtle comes in.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
April 18 2012 16:55 GMT
#2988
let's look at players Naniwa beat to advance to ro8:

2-1 Puzzle
2-0 Ryung
2-0 Genius
2-0 Virus

Besides Genius, the other opponents were borderline Code A / Code S players. It's great that Naniwa advanced, but his groups been pretty easy so far and played to his PvP strength. The real test will come in ro8. Let's hope it's not another coinflip PvP.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 18 2012 16:57 GMT
#2989
The Genius who played today was not the same Genius who played last season. You could tell in his games against SuperNova that his hot streak has ended.

Naniwa has taken over as the "hot streak" contender.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
April 18 2012 16:58 GMT
#2990
On April 19 2012 01:55 ninjamyst wrote:
let's look at players Naniwa beat to advance to ro8:

2-1 Puzzle
2-0 Ryung
2-0 Genius
2-0 Virus

Besides Genius, the other opponents were borderline Code A / Code S players. It's great that Naniwa advanced, but his groups been pretty easy so far and played to his PvP strength. The real test will come in ro8. Let's hope it's not another coinflip PvP.

PvP is NOT coinflip. When will people leearn to accept this?
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 18 2012 17:03 GMT
#2991
On April 19 2012 01:55 ninjamyst wrote:
let's look at players Naniwa beat to advance to ro8:

2-1 Puzzle
2-0 Ryung
2-0 Genius
2-0 Virus

Besides Genius, the other opponents were borderline Code A / Code S players. It's great that Naniwa advanced, but his groups been pretty easy so far and played to his PvP strength. The real test will come in ro8. Let's hope it's not another coinflip PvP.


I agree that he didn't beat the absolutely best players in Code-S, but Virus is no slouch. He took out MC and Nestea to advance from the Ro32. So the Ro8 is the real test of what? Code-S level? You don't have to knock out MKP to be Code-S level. Getting to Ro8 with this new format that's a lot harder means you can hang with those players.
BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
April 18 2012 17:04 GMT
#2992
On April 19 2012 01:55 ninjamyst wrote:
let's look at players Naniwa beat to advance to ro8:

2-1 Puzzle
2-0 Ryung
2-0 Genius
2-0 Virus

Besides Genius, the other opponents were borderline Code A / Code S players. It's great that Naniwa advanced, but his groups been pretty easy so far and played to his PvP strength. The real test will come in ro8. Let's hope it's not another coinflip PvP.

You are trying too hard. You are the perfect example for the types of people who will look for reasons to downplay, foreigners, every single time. It's always "NEXT time is a real test, unless he wins next time.. then next time AGAIN is the real test"

This was really karma on Genius, imo, he was pretty awkward to listen too during picks.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 18 2012 17:07 GMT
#2993
On April 19 2012 01:48 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 01:47 Ventor wrote:
On April 19 2012 01:36 Bleb wrote:
Finaly seeded foreigner that didnt make me feel like crap
gj nani!

It gives me a warm feeling that HuK made it to the ro8 code S on his own merit, with no seed. However, grats Nani.


If you want to get technical Huk got a seed into GSL, and managed to stick around for a while, before getting into the Ro8. He might never have qualified if not for the original seed


He did go through Code-A and the up & downs in order to get to Code-S though.
He played, Code-A:
Curious: 2-0
Revival: 2-1
Losira: 0-2

Up & Down:
InCa: 0-2
Choya: 2-1

I remember not being super impressed with his run at the time, but qualifying through Code-A is still more legitimate than getting a Code-S seed. On the other hand, Naniwa took out DRG and Nestea to earn that first Code-S seed he then got denied.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 18 2012 17:08 GMT
#2994
On April 19 2012 00:23 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 23:08 Meatloaf wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:30 Aunvilgod wrote:
In my opinion Naniwa did not deserve the seed until his latest results. In other words: GOM got fuckin lucky that they picked the right guy and should avoid stuff like these seeds into Code S in the future. I am okay with Code A seeds though.


I actually was thinking... what about GOM organizing a "foreigner qualifier tournament" with one or two seeds for code A as the prize?

at least this would end the "he not deserved it" feeling , and we would have some kind of qualifier for the foreigners to get there so GOM would have their "foreigner spots" filled.

im so happy that Naniwa make it through ,but i also dont agree with code S seeds , im ok with code A.

If he actually gets the GSL... that would be HUGE even with the seeding.




I actually really like this idea.
Maybe something like three qualifiers, one for EU, one for SEA and one for NA, have the top 12 players (top four from each) compete in a mini-tournament and if they want to give a code S seed give it to the winner while the second place gets up/downs and third gets code A. Or however they want to do it, I liked when the seeds were for MLG, those were earned and there was a lot less argument over how legitimate the guys who got them were.

Well, the code S seed is basically that, except they don't organize a qualifier themselves but instead use the results of all foreign tournaments between season to choose. So it's the same thing, in fact if they made a foreign only qualifier the arguments for/against would be exactly the same, with no Korean allowed to play in the qualifier.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 18 2012 17:09 GMT
#2995
On April 19 2012 01:55 ninjamyst wrote:
let's look at players Naniwa beat to advance to ro8:

2-1 Puzzle
2-0 Ryung
2-0 Genius
2-0 Virus

Besides Genius, the other opponents were borderline Code A / Code S players. It's great that Naniwa advanced, but his groups been pretty easy so far and played to his PvP strength. The real test will come in ro8. Let's hope it's not another coinflip PvP.


It's true he didn't play his weakest matchup, but that's how it goes. Most of the people who advance tend to do so by playing their strong matchups.
phaib
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany156 Posts
April 18 2012 17:10 GMT
#2996
On April 19 2012 01:02 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 00:16 RmoteCntrld wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:38 Ruscour wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:36 Trowa127 wrote:
Naniwa. I wish there was a log of posts by the haters about you getting GSL seeds. It would be like a one thousand page thread of irony.

The biggest is from HuK who was BM over Twitter about NaNi's seed.

Humble pie.


Rofl HuK has got seeded its not Naniwa's fault HuK never did anything with it... he sounds jealous.


If I'm correct HuK has got more Code S seeds than Naniwa? Or at least more seeds overall, why hate on someone especially when it's going good for him. t.t


Huk never got a single Code S seed. Back then he got seeded for Code A, qualified for Code S and sticked it out there for quite some time. In the end it doesn't matter how you got in. The only important thing is how you play in Code S. Naniwa showed that he is good enough for Code S.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 17:13:27
April 18 2012 17:11 GMT
#2997
o.o

lol they actually played girl's day - oh my god

Also congrats to naniwa and supernova oo

EDIT: Rofl
and I tune into MKP and he's playing oh my god.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
April 18 2012 17:12 GMT
#2998
I'm not his fan but it feels awesome to know that a foreigner finally doing well

I believe quarter final is 1v1 format? Looking at potential match ups, it will only get harder for him but I hope he analyze his opponent real well.
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
April 18 2012 17:15 GMT
#2999
Great job Naniwa. Now you can let your nerves finally send all the signals to your brain that in 2 more matches you'll be in the most significant best of 7 of your entire life...

HE HE HE. Don't worry Nani. You're a boss.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
April 18 2012 17:17 GMT
#3000
On April 19 2012 01:58 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 01:55 ninjamyst wrote:
let's look at players Naniwa beat to advance to ro8:

2-1 Puzzle
2-0 Ryung
2-0 Genius
2-0 Virus

Besides Genius, the other opponents were borderline Code A / Code S players. It's great that Naniwa advanced, but his groups been pretty easy so far and played to his PvP strength. The real test will come in ro8. Let's hope it's not another coinflip PvP.

PvP is NOT coinflip. When will people leearn to accept this?


Even Huk said PvP is the worst match in the game. And how on earth can you say it's not coinflip. There are so many build order insta losses.

In TvT 1 rax expand can hold everything. In PvP there is a lot of chance involved.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
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