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LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
April 18 2012 14:32 GMT
#2921
On April 18 2012 23:24 Farone wrote:
1/4 on my LB today with only Virus winning over SN.... but I dont mind, NaNiWa won~!


I'm 3/4 for the very same reason!
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
April 18 2012 14:33 GMT
#2922
On April 18 2012 22:31 coloursheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 22:13 Exarl25 wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:10 coloursheep wrote:
On April 18 2012 21:58 Misoza wrote:
On April 18 2012 21:56 Heouf wrote:
Well Naniwa is so lucky with his free code S spot. He couldnt even get through code A a couple of times. And even now it maybe be even difficult. I really hope he doesnt win GSL. Cause he doesnt deserve it because of the invite. You should fight your way into code S. The same for all those guys who got in through MLG. They were very lucky. The easiest way to get back.

Wel gl in round of 8. Hope you win. Cause my predications never come true.



stfu.


Real constructive comment to a genuine problem with giving Seeds into GSL, especially for players like Naniwa and Huk that have never qualified. Because of this, compared to MC, MMA or DRG who received seeds after they had already qualified in previous seasons, there will always be the taint of illegitimacy to their results and the feeling that they were unearned. Any argument that performing well proves that they were earned seeds goes against logic, if they were good enough in the first place then they would not need seeds to qualify. I too hope that Naniwa does not win this GSL because if a foreigner is going to win it should not be because of GOM's charity but because they qualified, worked their way up through Code A and then finally won. Take oGsTheStc as an example, if he wins this GSL it will mean so much more because he fought his way through all the stages of GSL finally to make it to Code S and win, his excitement at making it through the up and downs clearly shows how much more meaningful results are when you know that you achieved them yourself.



Are you serious? Winning Code S is much tougher, and a much greater achievement than qualifying for it. If Naniwa
wins GSL Code S, by far the hardest and most prestigious tournament in the world you think it will be illegitimate?

That's hilarious.


Winning GSL is only an achievement because of how hard it is to qualify and work your way through Code A to even give yourself a shot at winning Code S. By allowing players, particularly players that have not previously gone through the qualifiers, to skip most of that process not only weakens the prestige of the tournament but also the results of the seeded players. Naniwa has won four games and is in the round of 8, compare that to the players that go through the qualifiers and Code A. They have to play and win a lot more matches and it is these achievements that make winning a GSL so special. Maybe you would feel fine about winning a title that way and maybe Naniwa would too but if he did then dropped off the map in GSL forever do you think anyone, even Naniwa himself, would not think that his win was based upon him being fortunate enough to receive a seed allowing him into Code S?


I don't even really like MMA but invalidating his GSL win as well as DRG's just because they couldn't make it out of Code A seems a bit ridiculous. Code S is still the hardest tournament with the best players in the world.
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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 18 2012 14:35 GMT
#2923
i hate naniwa
i hate his face
i hate his attitude
i hate his seed

but DAMN he really did good right now
i wish he got kicked out in the next round
but i hoped the same this round too

i hate him
but he did good this time
-Terran-
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
April 18 2012 14:36 GMT
#2924
Naniwa. I wish there was a log of posts by the haters about you getting GSL seeds. It would be like a one thousand page thread of irony.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 18 2012 14:36 GMT
#2925
Fuck yeah! Naniwaaaa!!

Best news to come home to.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 14:38:33
April 18 2012 14:37 GMT
#2926
On April 18 2012 23:31 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 23:28 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:17 0ne wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:00 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:30 Aunvilgod wrote:
In my opinion Naniwa did not deserve the seed until his latest results. In other words: GOM got fuckin lucky that they picked the right guy and should avoid stuff like these seeds into Code S in the future. I am okay with Code A seeds though.

U mean like when Idra got invited for no good reason except that he was popular? That was BAD, at least Nani has some results, all Idra has to show for his career is he has a lot of people watching his stream..

It's so sick how people can ignore everything a player has acomplished when he doesn't play good for a couple of months

A couple of months? what? he has never won anything that was worth winning, he won that IEM vs Puma and that's it. He has never won an MLG with koreans in it or even get to the finals, he completely wasted his seed for code S by getting pwnd and then getting pwnd to code A, what a waste to invite that guy. He had ONE good showing at one mlg where he beat bomber but that's not enough to hype him to the levels he gets hyped.


You forget he WAS code S before he left Korea, finished in Ro8.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Code_S

All i said was that he never WON anything worth winning, I never said he never placed well or ignored his code s thing he did when everyone was a noob at the game. I'm very much aware, all i'm saying he didnt deserve a seed based on popularity and the way he gets hyped is like he won every gsl from then till now. Now a decent showing would be he gets back on code s without a seed and wins it , or AT LEAST get to the finals.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 18 2012 14:38 GMT
#2927
On April 18 2012 23:36 Trowa127 wrote:
Naniwa. I wish there was a log of posts by the haters about you getting GSL seeds. It would be like a one thousand page thread of irony.

The biggest is from HuK who was BM over Twitter about NaNi's seed.

Humble pie.
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
April 18 2012 14:43 GMT
#2928
On April 18 2012 23:38 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 23:36 Trowa127 wrote:
Naniwa. I wish there was a log of posts by the haters about you getting GSL seeds. It would be like a one thousand page thread of irony.

The biggest is from HuK who was BM over Twitter about NaNi's seed.

Humble pie.


Humble pie indeed. Respect to Naniwa, he obviously takes the game very seriously and I think everyone should appreciate that.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
April 18 2012 14:43 GMT
#2929
Omegad. I'm going to have to give my monies to the GSL now :O
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
April 18 2012 14:44 GMT
#2930
Naniwaaah? Damn.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 14:44:52
April 18 2012 14:44 GMT
#2931
Amasing played by Naniwa. He only lost a single map this GSL.

Go go Naniwa win GSL
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
April 18 2012 14:55 GMT
#2932
YEEES NANIWAAAA!! \o/

He not only won his games to advance to top8 but he fucking 2-0'd both of his opponents. I really like that and I'm so glad to see Nani do so well and finally gets to show some of his true potential in the GSL arena as well.

Btw, it's really nerve-wrecking when you haven't watched the games to slowly click open those spoiler tag results one by one. Aargh.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
April 18 2012 14:57 GMT
#2933
On April 18 2012 23:37 TanKLoveR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 23:31 BluePanther wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:28 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:17 0ne wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:00 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:30 Aunvilgod wrote:
In my opinion Naniwa did not deserve the seed until his latest results. In other words: GOM got fuckin lucky that they picked the right guy and should avoid stuff like these seeds into Code S in the future. I am okay with Code A seeds though.

U mean like when Idra got invited for no good reason except that he was popular? That was BAD, at least Nani has some results, all Idra has to show for his career is he has a lot of people watching his stream..

It's so sick how people can ignore everything a player has acomplished when he doesn't play good for a couple of months

A couple of months? what? he has never won anything that was worth winning, he won that IEM vs Puma and that's it. He has never won an MLG with koreans in it or even get to the finals, he completely wasted his seed for code S by getting pwnd and then getting pwnd to code A, what a waste to invite that guy. He had ONE good showing at one mlg where he beat bomber but that's not enough to hype him to the levels he gets hyped.


You forget he WAS code S before he left Korea, finished in Ro8.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Code_S

All i said was that he never WON anything worth winning, I never said he never placed well or ignored his code s thing he did when everyone was a noob at the game. I'm very much aware, all i'm saying he didnt deserve a seed based on popularity and the way he gets hyped is like he won every gsl from then till now. Now a decent showing would be he gets back on code s without a seed and wins it , or AT LEAST get to the finals.


No one has been hyping him like hes a GSL champion worthy player. I hate these invisible boogey men arguments because im sure yes one person on these forums thinks he can win a GSL code S right now but that in no way represents an opinion worth forming a worldview over. I would say he probably did deserve the seed purely because he was never eliminated from it in first place. I would also say his handful of event wins since then would not qualify him for code S were he not otherwise in it previously.
HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
April 18 2012 14:57 GMT
#2934
On April 18 2012 23:31 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 23:28 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:17 0ne wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:00 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:30 Aunvilgod wrote:
In my opinion Naniwa did not deserve the seed until his latest results. In other words: GOM got fuckin lucky that they picked the right guy and should avoid stuff like these seeds into Code S in the future. I am okay with Code A seeds though.

U mean like when Idra got invited for no good reason except that he was popular? That was BAD, at least Nani has some results, all Idra has to show for his career is he has a lot of people watching his stream..

It's so sick how people can ignore everything a player has acomplished when he doesn't play good for a couple of months

A couple of months? what? he has never won anything that was worth winning, he won that IEM vs Puma and that's it. He has never won an MLG with koreans in it or even get to the finals, he completely wasted his seed for code S by getting pwnd and then getting pwnd to code A, what a waste to invite that guy. He had ONE good showing at one mlg where he beat bomber but that's not enough to hype him to the levels he gets hyped.


You forget he WAS code S before he left Korea, finished in Ro8.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Code_S

He's also finished top 8 at 6 MLG's.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IdrA/Results

Sure, he struggles now, but everyone goes through funks.

Good place at MLG is not that hard if player attended MLGs before Koreans MLGs and gather enough points. Then u get high seed, win 2-3 Bo3 and u have good place.

His Code S Ro8.. wasn´t it tournament where Jinro made Ro4? That player in Code B, who can get do Code A nowadays..

Yea but he totally deserved it.. Idra is next bonjwa.
Ancient-Hunter
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)142 Posts
April 18 2012 14:59 GMT
#2935
Naniwa goes through baby!!!!!

Man what a day, i was actually at the event with my girlfriend, what a time we had... Virus Battle Cruiser's??? HELL YEAH!

It is awesome that a foreigner went on to the Bracket stage, and he rollllleedddd at that, I didnt have time to go back through the whole thread but what were the haters saying this time? Genius and Virus having bad days? Easy group (lol)? Hahahaha man this guy has paid his dues over here, he's lost and he's learned AND NOW HE'S WINNING!

Love it, well my gf not so much, she's Korean and could not accept that fact that there are 15 other contestants who are KOREAN, the whole way back she was rotted with me "Why don't you hold Naniwa hand" - "Why dont you have sex with Naniwa tonight" - "Why dont you make Naniwa your girlfriend"

LOL it was awesome, well not the fact that I wont be getting any tonight but you get the idea
Let's fly!
Vanishes
Profile Joined January 2011
19 Posts
April 18 2012 15:03 GMT
#2936
<3 NANIWA yay!
Moderately annoyed at the extremely outraged
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
April 18 2012 15:03 GMT
#2937
On April 18 2012 23:57 HaXeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 23:31 BluePanther wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:28 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:17 0ne wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:00 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:30 Aunvilgod wrote:
In my opinion Naniwa did not deserve the seed until his latest results. In other words: GOM got fuckin lucky that they picked the right guy and should avoid stuff like these seeds into Code S in the future. I am okay with Code A seeds though.

U mean like when Idra got invited for no good reason except that he was popular? That was BAD, at least Nani has some results, all Idra has to show for his career is he has a lot of people watching his stream..

It's so sick how people can ignore everything a player has acomplished when he doesn't play good for a couple of months

A couple of months? what? he has never won anything that was worth winning, he won that IEM vs Puma and that's it. He has never won an MLG with koreans in it or even get to the finals, he completely wasted his seed for code S by getting pwnd and then getting pwnd to code A, what a waste to invite that guy. He had ONE good showing at one mlg where he beat bomber but that's not enough to hype him to the levels he gets hyped.


You forget he WAS code S before he left Korea, finished in Ro8.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Code_S

He's also finished top 8 at 6 MLG's.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IdrA/Results

Sure, he struggles now, but everyone goes through funks.

Good place at MLG is not that hard if player attended MLGs before Koreans MLGs and gather enough points. Then u get high seed, win 2-3 Bo3 and u have good place.

His Code S Ro8.. wasn´t it tournament where Jinro made Ro4? That player in Code B, who can get do Code A nowadays..

Yea but he totally deserved it.. Idra is next bonjwa.


Well "that player in code B" also happend to beat MC in that tournament who happens to be in code S right now.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 18 2012 15:07 GMT
#2938
Life doesn't even make sense any more... Naniwa going 4-0 while Genius goes 0-4? I'm tempted to put this down to PvP, but I think that would be silly.

Damn, Naniwa. You good.

Damn, Genius. You let go after that run last season.
HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
April 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#2939
On April 19 2012 00:03 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 23:57 HaXeR wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:31 BluePanther wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:28 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:17 0ne wrote:
On April 18 2012 23:00 TanKLoveR wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:30 Aunvilgod wrote:
In my opinion Naniwa did not deserve the seed until his latest results. In other words: GOM got fuckin lucky that they picked the right guy and should avoid stuff like these seeds into Code S in the future. I am okay with Code A seeds though.

U mean like when Idra got invited for no good reason except that he was popular? That was BAD, at least Nani has some results, all Idra has to show for his career is he has a lot of people watching his stream..

It's so sick how people can ignore everything a player has acomplished when he doesn't play good for a couple of months

A couple of months? what? he has never won anything that was worth winning, he won that IEM vs Puma and that's it. He has never won an MLG with koreans in it or even get to the finals, he completely wasted his seed for code S by getting pwnd and then getting pwnd to code A, what a waste to invite that guy. He had ONE good showing at one mlg where he beat bomber but that's not enough to hype him to the levels he gets hyped.


You forget he WAS code S before he left Korea, finished in Ro8.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Code_S

He's also finished top 8 at 6 MLG's.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IdrA/Results

Sure, he struggles now, but everyone goes through funks.

Good place at MLG is not that hard if player attended MLGs before Koreans MLGs and gather enough points. Then u get high seed, win 2-3 Bo3 and u have good place.

His Code S Ro8.. wasn´t it tournament where Jinro made Ro4? That player in Code B, who can get do Code A nowadays..

Yea but he totally deserved it.. Idra is next bonjwa.


Well "that player in code B" also happend to beat MC in that tournament who happens to be in code S right now.

Yes, in that tournament 1 year ago..
hackertitan
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore105 Posts
April 18 2012 15:11 GMT
#2940
Best news today !!! Naniwa fighting get that championship man
Working hard to be a game designer !!!!!
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