[GSL] 2012 Season 2 Code S Ro32 Group E - Page 100

On April 14 2012 19:09 roym899 wrote:
But the question is WHY are there so many more Top Terrans then Top Zergs and Protosses since the Release of the game? In the ladder the races are splitted very equally.

On April 14 2012 21:29 ydeer1993 wrote:
Isn't it guna be Genius MC Parting ( because they have the highest points ) then because the rest tied will revert to 2011 so MVP will be chosen?

On April 15 2012 00:17 Mythra wrote:


Well what if lets say sc2 just started and all the tier 1 bw pros eg flash,jaedong,bisu, etc choose to play terran and then the worse bw people choose zerg and protoss. Wouldnt you expect that terran would be doing better in code s just because the players are actually better. I dont see why people think that there should be a perfectly even number of terran,protoss and zerg at the top. There are a lot of other factors ie more of the pros picked terran and maybe the "best gamers" picked terran.

So if blizzard did nerf terran to even up the distribution the race would be worse than zerg and protoss in general even if you got 33% players for each race in code s.

On April 15 2012 00:16 kubiks wrote:
Welll Virus f*** you, because of you we will have only 2 zerg in the ro16 -_-


ps : well in fact I can't really blame a player for winning...but still I am annoyed :'(

On April 15 2012 00:47 Femari wrote:

This.

I don't know why everyone just assumed the race was always OP and is still OP but not the player. Mvp broke ghosts, MKP is friggin Houdini, MMA still destroys in TvZ with nerfs. Yes there were always imbalances in the game, that happens when a game is young. It's not that one race is the best race, it's that certain people are playing that race. Lesser players cannot handle these things that pros handle. They're pro for a reason.

When 4/5 bonjwas are Terran, when the best player in the world is Terran (Flash is still best), when one of the most popular players ever is Terran, wouldn't it make sense for a lot of younger players to start playing Terran?

On April 15 2012 01:29 iamthedave wrote:


And this has nothing to do with the fact Terran has more tools at its disposal than anyone else?

The problems with z v t have been there since the beginning. Zerg are pathetically easy to rush, harass, cheese and generally defeat.

It's not that Zerg is 'hard to play' it's that Zerg can lose easily. You don't see Zerg holding on for dear life and squeezing out a win after a horrible engagement the way Terrans often do, you see them get roflstomped because Zerg are incredibly fragile and their economy is nowhere near as strong as Terrans. Terrans can lose half their SCVs and still mine equally to a 3 base Zerg thanks to MULEs while Zerg can... er... die?

Yes, different players in different times can make either race seem overpowered, but there are structural weaknesses in the Zerg race that make them easier to lose with. Hence why so many pros are 'making mistakes'. Terran are incredibly forgiving to play unless you go for certain risky builds (Thor rush in particular) where one engagement legitimately loses you the game, and of course the dreaded bad unsiege timing. Zerg are incredibly unforgiving in almost every scenario at every stage of the game with the exception of the very very late game where you can go god mode with infestors and broodlords.

Protoss I'm not sure about. I think more than the other races it genuinely depends on who's piloting Protoss. They have so many powerful tools but they're all awkward to use right with the exception of the old 4 gate cheeses. I think Protoss are the most strategical race over all, you really need to think ahead to what you intend to build and how you intend to get the most out of them.

Overall I do think the T v Z matchup is unbalanced against Zerg, not because x unit beats y unit but because of Terran's far greater ability to come back from losses and superior ability to dictate the pace of the game. Any aggressive Terran forces the Zerg onto the back foot up until they make a serious screw up, as Virus demonstrated today and MMA used to demonstrate all the time when he was playing godly or pretty much any top Terran. Even the classic anti-marine unit, the baneling, depends far more on how good the Terran is than the zerg, because proper splitting drastically reduces or even nullfies them in extreme cases.

How often do you see Zerg micro genuinely swing the tide of a battle?

On April 15 2012 01:48 Denzil wrote:
when is it time for the sad zergling fanclub?