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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 09 2012 07:09 GMT
#15701
On April 09 2012 16:05 HuHEN wrote:
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want a protoss to win one big event, just one. Its starting to feel like a long time since huk won MLG.

better get used to it - protoss win like 10% of the time.
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MC for president
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
April 09 2012 07:09 GMT
#15702
Btw screw u all saying ur going to sleep, im downloading the new Game of Thrones episode and watch it, then sleep :D
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
April 09 2012 07:09 GMT
#15703
On April 09 2012 16:05 HuHEN wrote:
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want a protoss to win one big event, just one. Its starting to feel like a long time since huk won MLG.

MC won IEM.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 09 2012 07:09 GMT
#15704
On April 09 2012 16:07 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:06 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:05 HuHEN wrote:
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want one protoss to win a big event, just one.

DreamHack Summer and Winter?


i guess MC winning IEM doesn't count for anything

haha so true, completely forgot about it, I'm a Puma fan.
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skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
April 09 2012 07:10 GMT
#15705
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fizzy wrote:
Btw screw u all saying ur going to sleep, im downloading the new Game of Thrones episode and watch it, then sleep :D


i could not resist. Saw it last week
Save gaming: kill esport
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 09 2012 07:10 GMT
#15706
Mc won iem, genius was in gsl finals and Squirtle in these finals... So I think Protoss are doing ok
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:12:21
April 09 2012 07:11 GMT
#15707
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
but to me a trophy is supposed to be a representation that one is undeniably the champion at the event... and I honestly can't say aLive was a true champion (from a quality perspective)


But aLive IS the true champion; he won the tournament. That's the only way to become the champion.
ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 09 2012 07:12 GMT
#15708
considering squirtle went nexus first twice and 1 gate dt expand, i think the people qqing about build order losses need to get a clue.
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Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
April 09 2012 07:12 GMT
#15709
On April 09 2012 16:10 vthree wrote:
Mc won iem, genius was in gsl finals and Squirtle in these finals... So I think Protoss are doing ok


Protoss players whining is pretty funny.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:13:10
April 09 2012 07:12 GMT
#15710
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
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1 (1)
 
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107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
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7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.


Player pool at lone star was too poor for me to consider it anywhere close to the best. Honestly don't know how you can even put it in contention. I only watched the finals of lone star because it wasn't an interesting tournament.

IPL 4 was the best foreign tourney this year, followed by MLG columbus.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:13:28
April 09 2012 07:12 GMT
#15711
I'd rate it a 6 or probably a 7. But neither, because ratings don't mean anything. I'm a person who doesn't care much about things like this but i can objectively say that a few things were poor. The sound was very poor in the first two days, better today. Especially like the interview feed being linked into the main feed, and well, the sound , game sound and casting sounds were totally out of whack.

Secondly, the camera switching during big important battles?`Who authorized that? Who does that? Why is that a good idea? ST Legend was amazing again as the observor which has to be said. I feel there were too many amateur mistakes made.

The games however were a good point, that was obviously the good point of the tournament, high quality all round imo. Then we move onto the fact there were adverts every 2 god damn seconds. I don't mind ads but it was borderline excessive.

Casting was mostly great all round and i don't understand some of the pitchforks. Guys should remember it's real human beings they are attacking and hurting.

Lastly, the swiftness of the closing/award ceremony was a farce. I mean what? They gave 3 trophies out in 30 seconds. Then that was it. No interview, no real words from anyone of note? Was just another poor blemish on the production and they must up their game at ipl 5.
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
April 09 2012 07:13 GMT
#15712
On April 09 2012 16:06 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:05 HuHEN wrote:
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want one protoss to win a big event, just one.

DreamHack Summer and Winter?


Ah forgot about that, DH didnt really have the same volume of high level Korean players though. The point is well taken, I still think protoss's record in major tournaments (the obvious elephant in the room is GSL) can be depressing at times, its not something which can really be marked down to balance though IMO.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:13:57
April 09 2012 07:13 GMT
#15713
On April 09 2012 16:12 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
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107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
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7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.


Player pool at lone star was too poor for me to consider it anywhere close to the best. Honestly don't know how you can even put it in contention. I only watched the finals of lone star because it wasn't an interesting tournament.

Despite the lower quality player pool it still had excellent production and was mad entertaining.

MLG > Lone Star > IPL4 for me so far.
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
April 09 2012 07:13 GMT
#15714
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy


oh hell no

aLive's IPL4 run:

2-0 Crank
2-0 Heart
2-1 Life
2-1 DRG
2-0 Ganzi
2-0 Puma
0-2 NesTea
2-0 Tails
2-0 Ganzi
2-1 Parting
2-1 Polt
2-1 MKP
3-1 NesTea
2-3 Squirtle
3-0 Squirtle
R3DT1D3
Profile Joined January 2012
285 Posts
April 09 2012 07:13 GMT
#15715
While I wanted Alive to win as a Terran player, I feel kind of slighted. Squirtle ran through every Terran he played except for Polt and I was waiting for someone to outplay him (ideally to get some help in the matchup) but Alive just got his BO wins and in the only longer game he won was because of a handful of marauders and Squirtle overextending.

Alive certainly deserved the trophy for punishing some of Squirtle's builds and hanging in there in that second BO5, but I can't help but feel he just perpetuated the whole "win early or auto-lose" mentality TvP feels like right now. Every game in the finals made me just sad for both sides of the matchup.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:14:36
April 09 2012 07:13 GMT
#15716
On April 09 2012 16:12 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
1%

3 (0)
 
0%

107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
(Vote): 10





7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.


Player pool at lone star was too poor for me to consider it anywhere close to the best. Honestly don't know how you can even put it in contention. I only watched the finals of lone star because it wasn't an interesting tournament.

IPL 4 was the best foreign tourney this year, followed by MLG columbus.


So you're saying I can't consider it the best and you didn't even watch the event except the final?

I thought Lone Star was the best all-around tournament. No real problems. Entertaining throughout. Good games. Nothing really to harp about.
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LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
April 09 2012 07:14 GMT
#15717
good effort Squirtle.
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
April 09 2012 07:14 GMT
#15718
On April 09 2012 16:08 vthree wrote:
Sniper, are you serious? We should judge qualitatively? So we have judges like figure skating?



You could've just quoted to make it easier to address who you're speaking to.

To address your point... should we judge only quantitatively? If that's the case what's the point of IPL top 5/10 plays... or for that matter why do people want polls for recommended games... let's just look at the results page and spoil ourselves...

My point is that to some degree we need both.... quantitative to address winnings but qualitative to address.... well quality and other aspects.... so I have valid reason to voice my concerns the way I did.
ReadySetFire
Profile Joined October 2011
Kuwait545 Posts
April 09 2012 07:14 GMT
#15719
alive very much deserved this win. He's a very solid player
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
April 09 2012 07:15 GMT
#15720
On April 09 2012 16:13 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:12 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
1%

3 (0)
 
0%

107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
(Vote): 10





7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.


Player pool at lone star was too poor for me to consider it anywhere close to the best. Honestly don't know how you can even put it in contention. I only watched the finals of lone star because it wasn't an interesting tournament.

IPL 4 was the best foreign tourney this year, followed by MLG columbus.


So you're saying I can't consider it the best and you didn't even watch the event except the final?

I thought Lone Star was the best all-around tournament. No real problems. Entertaining throughout. Good games. Nothing really to harp about.


Correct. It was an amateur run tourney, which can't compare to the professional tourneys, so stating it as the best tournament of 2012 is hyperbole to the max.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
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