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Killerkrack
Profile Joined August 2010
664 Posts
April 09 2012 07:05 GMT
#15681
Great tournament but god damn was it long. I loved every second of it though <3
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
April 09 2012 07:05 GMT
#15682
On April 09 2012 15:56 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy


ahhahaha you're soooo mad, aLive is by far the more accomplished player.



You're not wrong... I am bitter about the results ... especially at how many of the games went (I normally don't watch either player but I didn't want to watch a final plagued with BO win/losses)

That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy

On April 09 2012 15:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy

haters gonna hate

Alive played excellent in the second best of 3. Congrats to Alive!


If you count BO wins and marauders as good games you need to get out more.... wait I don't think I did that right ....

On April 09 2012 15:57 Tehs Tehklz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy


The money he won, however, is very useful.


I never denied that.... I just think the trophy itself was awarded to the lesser skilled player in the context of the tournament...
Yes he technically won the money and that's gonna take him a long way... but to me a trophy is supposed to be a representation that one is undeniably the champion at the event... and I honestly can't say aLive was a true champion (from a quality perspective)
fcb10
Profile Joined February 2012
113 Posts
April 09 2012 07:05 GMT
#15683
who wouldve thought before the tourney top 3 would be alive, squirtle, nestea?
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:06:08
April 09 2012 07:05 GMT
#15684
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want a protoss to win one big event, just one. Its starting to feel like a long time since huk won MLG.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:06:27
April 09 2012 07:05 GMT
#15685
On April 09 2012 16:04 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:03 skeldark wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:02 liberate71 wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:01 Drigger wrote:
So what would you rate this IPL on a scale from 1 to 10?


Production Value was probably 5/10 but the games were like a 9/10 - so many epic games.

The observer alone is good for 6 points. I wish every tournament have him now.
Before you fly in casters fly him in!


Yeah I think it's amazing that people have started to realize how great ST_Legend is at observing too, even pointing out upgrade advantages mid game, etc. I hope more tournaments like IPL, MLG, etc will fly him out to do observing for them too.

He should just make a training house in order to train observers.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 09 2012 07:05 GMT
#15686
On April 09 2012 16:04 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:03 skeldark wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:02 liberate71 wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:01 Drigger wrote:
So what would you rate this IPL on a scale from 1 to 10?


Production Value was probably 5/10 but the games were like a 9/10 - so many epic games.

The observer alone is good for 6 points. I wish every tournament have him now.
Before you fly in casters fly him in!


Yeah I think it's amazing that people have started to realize how great ST_Legend is at observing too, even pointing out upgrade advantages mid game, etc. I hope more tournaments like IPL, MLG, etc will fly him out to do observing for them too.

I thought Adebisi did an excellent job observing at MLG Winter Championships. Legend is a legend in obsing though
www.superbeerbrothers.com
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 09 2012 07:06 GMT
#15687
On April 09 2012 16:05 HuHEN wrote:
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want one protoss to win a big event, just one.

DreamHack Summer and Winter?
www.superbeerbrothers.com
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:06:46
April 09 2012 07:06 GMT
#15688
On April 09 2012 16:04 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:03 skeldark wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:02 liberate71 wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:01 Drigger wrote:
So what would you rate this IPL on a scale from 1 to 10?


Production Value was probably 5/10 but the games were like a 9/10 - so many epic games.

The observer alone is good for 6 points. I wish every tournament have him now.
Before you fly in casters fly him in!


Yeah I think it's amazing that people have started to realize how great ST_Legend is at observing too, even pointing out upgrade advantages mid game, etc. I hope more tournaments like IPL, MLG, etc will fly him out to do observing for them too.

yeah he's like the first obs that hasn't managed to piss me off over the course of a tournament since TSL3 and hot_bid
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
April 09 2012 07:06 GMT
#15689
On April 09 2012 16:05 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:04 Lunareste wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:03 skeldark wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:02 liberate71 wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:01 Drigger wrote:
So what would you rate this IPL on a scale from 1 to 10?


Production Value was probably 5/10 but the games were like a 9/10 - so many epic games.

The observer alone is good for 6 points. I wish every tournament have him now.
Before you fly in casters fly him in!


Yeah I think it's amazing that people have started to realize how great ST_Legend is at observing too, even pointing out upgrade advantages mid game, etc. I hope more tournaments like IPL, MLG, etc will fly him out to do observing for them too.

He should just make a training house just in order to train observers.


oh....my.....god!

If this happened I would finally know what I want to do with the rest of my life, lol.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
April 09 2012 07:06 GMT
#15690
On April 09 2012 16:05 HuHEN wrote:
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want a protoss to win one big event, just one. Its starting to feel like a long time since huk won MLG.


IEM World ??
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 09 2012 07:07 GMT
#15691
On April 09 2012 16:06 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:05 HuHEN wrote:
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want one protoss to win a big event, just one.

DreamHack Summer and Winter?


i guess MC winning IEM doesn't count for anything
The Show of a Lifetime
Drigger
Profile Joined November 2011
254 Posts
April 09 2012 07:07 GMT
#15692
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
1%

3 (0)
 
0%

107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
(Vote): 10



skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:09:31
April 09 2012 07:07 GMT
#15693
On April 09 2012 16:04 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:03 skeldark wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:02 liberate71 wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:01 Drigger wrote:
So what would you rate this IPL on a scale from 1 to 10?


Production Value was probably 5/10 but the games were like a 9/10 - so many epic games.

The observer alone is good for 6 points. I wish every tournament have him now.
Before you fly in casters fly him in!


Yeah I think it's amazing that people have started to realize how great ST_Legend is at observing too, even pointing out upgrade advantages mid game, etc. I hope more tournaments like IPL, MLG, etc will fly him out to do observing for them too.


I have all streams always muted.
No caster diss, but i like to see strategies part of the game and not the hype / exciting part.
Some good tournaments have so awful observers ( most if some special casters do it).
So observer is very important for me. And Legend is the best of all! Allways said so.


If you concentrate on his mousecourser, his "cast" is better than any of the popular guys who talk.
Save gaming: kill esport
mjf
Profile Joined April 2010
United States436 Posts
April 09 2012 07:08 GMT
#15694
On April 09 2012 16:05 HuHEN wrote:
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want a protoss to win one big event, just one. Its starting to feel like a long time since huk won MLG.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments

yeah i guess it would feel like a long time when you ignore 3 events.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 09 2012 07:08 GMT
#15695
On April 09 2012 16:06 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:05 HuHEN wrote:
Honestly im really fucking sad right now, I just want one protoss to win a big event, just one.

DreamHack Summer and Winter?


Dreamhack isn't really on the same level as MLG and IPL when it comes to overall skill present at the tournament.

Still a good event but you can't really compare when it comes to talent.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 09 2012 07:08 GMT
#15696
Sniper, are you serious? We should judge qualitatively? So we have judges like figure skating?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 09 2012 07:08 GMT
#15697
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:56 AxionSteel wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy


ahhahaha you're soooo mad, aLive is by far the more accomplished player.



You're not wrong... I am bitter about the results ... especially at how many of the games went (I normally don't watch either player but I didn't want to watch a final plagued with BO win/losses)

That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy

haters gonna hate

Alive played excellent in the second best of 3. Congrats to Alive!


If you count BO wins and marauders as good games you need to get out more.... wait I don't think I did that right ....

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:57 Tehs Tehklz wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy


The money he won, however, is very useful.


I never denied that.... I just think the trophy itself was awarded to the lesser skilled player in the context of the tournament...
Yes he technically won the money and that's gonna take him a long way... but to me a trophy is supposed to be a representation that one is undeniably the champion at the event... and I honestly can't say aLive was a true champion (from a quality perspective)

Of course Squirtle had the tougher road, he didn't qualify for groups like Alive did. And that game was so much more than marauders. If thats all you saw it as, well thats just sad. And for BO wins to work, it means Squirtle chose bad builds too. Nexus first on a 2 player map? Are you serious bro? DT's against Terran? Come on thats just a terrible choice. Squirtle did not play well in the second bo5. Alive did. End of story.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 09 2012 07:09 GMT
#15698
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
1%

3 (0)
 
0%

107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
(Vote): 10





7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
April 09 2012 07:09 GMT
#15699
On April 09 2012 16:00 elwoodng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:57 lbmaian wrote:
TvP

Why can't you be as good as TvT or TvZ?

T_P

Are you talking about Alive? Because I thought his TvP was by far his weakest matchup up to this tournament. He obviously improved a fuckton since getting crushed by Genius at the last GSL.


No I mean the matchup, not Alive's ability. (Not to take away from Alive's victory)

Plus, the games weren't the highest caliber I've seen - both players were obviously really tired. I was more hyped up by the Korean commentators than the gameplay itself.
Blade Fox
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States215 Posts
April 09 2012 07:09 GMT
#15700
Im just glad the top 3 weren't MKP is that bad? I was rooting for squirtle but in the end they both deserved it.

I think squirtle fought hard and deserved every penny he won tonight and alive deserved the win for just playing solid all-around.

Besides they both had a hand in removing the worst player from the tournament so they both rock!

Great tournament IPL worth the subscription.
Blame it on my A.D.D
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