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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:16:18
April 09 2012 07:15 GMT
#15721
alive

Online qualifier
2-0 crank
2-0 heart
2-1 life
2-1 drg
2-0 ganzi
2-0 puma
Pool
2-0 ganzi
2-1 parting
2-0 tails
0-2 Nestea
champ bracket
3-1 nestea
2-0 mkp
2-1 polt
2-3 squirtle
3-0 squirtle

33-7, 82% w/r altogether

holy fuck

+ Show Spoiler [squirtle] +
pool + champ
2-1 creator, 2-1 mc, 1-2 polt, 2-0 puma, 1-2 nestea, 2-0 bomber, 2-0 mkp, 2-0 mma, 3-2 nestea, 3-2 alive, 0-3 alive
open
2-0 unknown, 2-1 tod, 2-1 ghostking, 2-1 sase, 2-0 ace,

30-16


sorry if math wrong
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 09 2012 07:15 GMT
#15722
On April 09 2012 16:11 HolyExlxF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
but to me a trophy is supposed to be a representation that one is undeniably the champion at the event... and I honestly can't say aLive was a true champion (from a quality perspective)


But aLive IS the true champion; he won the tournament. That's the only way to become the champion.


Poor alive get no credit. Even in RO4 GSL ppl were saying he shouldnt be there. He couldnt even get a korean team to like him. lolz
MC for president
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
April 09 2012 07:16 GMT
#15723
Youre right! I just want a damn GSL! Ok ill stop whining, was just frustrated.
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
April 09 2012 07:16 GMT
#15724
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:56 AxionSteel wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy


ahhahaha you're soooo mad, aLive is by far the more accomplished player.



You're not wrong... I am bitter about the results ... especially at how many of the games went (I normally don't watch either player but I didn't want to watch a final plagued with BO win/losses)

That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy

haters gonna hate

Alive played excellent in the second best of 3. Congrats to Alive!


If you count BO wins and marauders as good games you need to get out more.... wait I don't think I did that right ....

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 15:57 Tehs Tehklz wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy


The money he won, however, is very useful.


I never denied that.... I just think the trophy itself was awarded to the lesser skilled player in the context of the tournament...
Yes he technically won the money and that's gonna take him a long way... but to me a trophy is supposed to be a representation that one is undeniably the champion at the event... and I honestly can't say aLive was a true champion (from a quality perspective)

Then you are naive, aLive definetely showed the better games in this tournament, hidden 2 base colossus allins aren' exactly what you look for in "quality games", and marauders are standard units in TvP that work incredibly well against stalkers when those aren't supported by zealots, but I guess it has to be aLive's fault that Squirtle commited such an imense blunder as building pure stalkers in a developed tvp.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 09 2012 07:16 GMT
#15725
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
1%

3 (0)
 
0%

107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
(Vote): 10





7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.


I don't think it's that surprising. This event was...too professional in some ways and you can easily see the influence of 'suits' who don't really understand the scene. Watching Anna tower over the Koreans, in her glittery-dress made them look like tiny bums in their oversized hoodies.

Same with the interviews. It was too organized, too well rehearsed. You get much better results from most SC2-players by having a more loose-format, so they are less intimidated and open up more (see HSC).
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vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:17:19
April 09 2012 07:16 GMT
#15726
On April 09 2012 16:15 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:13 Fionn wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:12 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
1%

3 (0)
 
0%

107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
(Vote): 10





7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.


Player pool at lone star was too poor for me to consider it anywhere close to the best. Honestly don't know how you can even put it in contention. I only watched the finals of lone star because it wasn't an interesting tournament.

IPL 4 was the best foreign tourney this year, followed by MLG columbus.


So you're saying I can't consider it the best and you didn't even watch the event except the final?

I thought Lone Star was the best all-around tournament. No real problems. Entertaining throughout. Good games. Nothing really to harp about.


Correct. It was an amateur run tourney, which can't compare to the professional tourneys, so stating it as the best tournament of 2012 is hyperbole to the max.

Amateur run tourney that had better sound production than IPL4, rofl

And who are you to tell someone their opinion is wrong?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 09 2012 07:16 GMT
#15727
For people complaining about the short ceremonies, it is likely they had take down the venue and hand it but to the hotal at a certain deadline and they were already running behind schedule.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 09 2012 07:17 GMT
#15728
On April 09 2012 16:13 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:12 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
1%

3 (0)
 
0%

107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
(Vote): 10





7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.


Player pool at lone star was too poor for me to consider it anywhere close to the best. Honestly don't know how you can even put it in contention. I only watched the finals of lone star because it wasn't an interesting tournament.

Despite the lower quality player pool it still had excellent production and was mad entertaining.

MLG > Lone Star > IPL4 for me so far.

If we are looking at it from a strictly production and running a tournament perspective I have to agree. IPL really dropped the ball all weekend. Lots of streaming problems, not showing enough open bracket games, not showing elimination games while showing meaningless games. IPL definitely needs to step it up for IPL5 and I believe they will.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 09 2012 07:17 GMT
#15729
On April 09 2012 16:13 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy


oh hell no

aLive's IPL4 run:

2-0 Crank
2-0 Heart
2-1 Life
2-1 DRG
2-0 Ganzi
2-0 Puma
0-2 NesTea
2-0 Tails
2-0 Ganzi
2-1 Parting
2-1 Polt
2-1 MKP
3-1 NesTea
2-3 Squirtle
3-0 Squirtle


You can't add games from a qualifier. -_-;;

2 different beasts. Squirtle's run was all his games over 3 days + GSTL whereas for aLive 6 of those series you listed were online.
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Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
April 09 2012 07:18 GMT
#15730
On April 09 2012 16:15 Juliette wrote:
alive

Online qualifier
2-0 crank
2-0 heart
2-1 life
2-1 drg
2-0 ganzi
2-0 puma
Pool
2-0 ganzi
2-1 parting
2-0 tails
0-2 Nestea
champ bracket
3-1 nestea
2-0 mkp
2-1 polt
2-3 squirtle
3-0 squirtle

33-7, 82% w/r altogether

holy fuck

+ Show Spoiler [squirtle] +
pool + champ
2-1 creator, 2-1 mc, 1-2 polt, 2-0 puma, 1-2 nestea, 2-0 bomber, 2-0 mkp, 2-0 mma, 3-2 nestea, 3-2 alive, 0-3 alive
open
2-0 unknown, 2-1 tod, 2-1 ghostking, 2-1 sase, 2-0 ace,

30-16


sorry if math wrong


all that for only 40k geez
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
April 09 2012 07:18 GMT
#15731
Why is any discussion happening here.

Home Story Cup IV was and will be the best tournament in 2012 until HSC V. End of.
@followMVT
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
April 09 2012 07:19 GMT
#15732
On April 09 2012 16:17 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:13 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy


oh hell no

aLive's IPL4 run:

2-0 Crank
2-0 Heart
2-1 Life
2-1 DRG
2-0 Ganzi
2-0 Puma
0-2 NesTea
2-0 Tails
2-0 Ganzi
2-1 Parting
2-1 Polt
2-1 MKP
3-1 NesTea
2-3 Squirtle
3-0 Squirtle


You can't add games from a qualifier. -_-;;

2 different beasts. Squirtle's run was all his games over 3 days + GSTL whereas for aLive 6 of those series you listed were online.


People are adding Squirtle's qualifier games over no-names, why not add aLive's over 2 of the top 3 from the latest MLG?
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:20:34
April 09 2012 07:19 GMT
#15733
On April 09 2012 16:17 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:13 vndods wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:12 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
1%

3 (0)
 
0%

107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
(Vote): 10





7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.


Player pool at lone star was too poor for me to consider it anywhere close to the best. Honestly don't know how you can even put it in contention. I only watched the finals of lone star because it wasn't an interesting tournament.

Despite the lower quality player pool it still had excellent production and was mad entertaining.

MLG > Lone Star > IPL4 for me so far.

If we are looking at it from a strictly production and running a tournament perspective I have to agree. IPL really dropped the ball all weekend. Lots of streaming problems, not showing enough open bracket games, not showing elimination games while showing meaningless games. IPL definitely needs to step it up for IPL5 and I believe they will.

They better lol, cause the hype going into this thing compared to the actual tournament was a complete letdown.
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:20:55
April 09 2012 07:19 GMT
#15734
Hope NesTea get's some rest, he showed amazing games and I hope he does well in the GSL(NesTea Fighting!~ ) Good effort Squirtle you did amazing and i'm really happy for you, I believe that you will make it out of your Code S group to! And congrats to aLive, he showed some amazing games and he really deserves it, I feel bad for SlayerSVen in Code A! ^^ :D
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:21:30
April 09 2012 07:21 GMT
#15735
On April 09 2012 16:19 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:17 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:13 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy


oh hell no

aLive's IPL4 run:

2-0 Crank
2-0 Heart
2-1 Life
2-1 DRG
2-0 Ganzi
2-0 Puma
0-2 NesTea
2-0 Tails
2-0 Ganzi
2-1 Parting
2-1 Polt
2-1 MKP
3-1 NesTea
2-3 Squirtle
3-0 Squirtle


You can't add games from a qualifier. -_-;;

2 different beasts. Squirtle's run was all his games over 3 days + GSTL whereas for aLive 6 of those series you listed were online.


People are adding Squirtle's qualifier games over no-names, why not add aLive's over 2 of the top 3 from the latest MLG?


Because squirtle's games all took place at the venue in the open bracket. You can't add alive's games from the online qualifiers months ago.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
April 09 2012 07:21 GMT
#15736
On April 09 2012 16:08 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:56 AxionSteel wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy


ahhahaha you're soooo mad, aLive is by far the more accomplished player.



You're not wrong... I am bitter about the results ... especially at how many of the games went (I normally don't watch either player but I didn't want to watch a final plagued with BO win/losses)

That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy

On April 09 2012 15:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy

haters gonna hate

Alive played excellent in the second best of 3. Congrats to Alive!


If you count BO wins and marauders as good games you need to get out more.... wait I don't think I did that right ....

On April 09 2012 15:57 Tehs Tehklz wrote:
On April 09 2012 15:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
God this finals was a travesty....

Alive definitely did not deserve the win.... like lol mostly BO wins and then just steamrolling with marauders ? god that's a useful skill toi have.

Not only that but squirtle fought so hard to get to this point

Squirtle is the real champion.... Alive just won a useless trophy


The money he won, however, is very useful.


I never denied that.... I just think the trophy itself was awarded to the lesser skilled player in the context of the tournament...
Yes he technically won the money and that's gonna take him a long way... but to me a trophy is supposed to be a representation that one is undeniably the champion at the event... and I honestly can't say aLive was a true champion (from a quality perspective)

Of course Squirtle had the tougher road, he didn't qualify for groups like Alive did. And that game was so much more than marauders. If thats all you saw it as, well thats just sad. And for BO wins to work, it means Squirtle chose bad builds too. Nexus first on a 2 player map? Are you serious bro? DT's against Terran? Come on thats just a terrible choice. Squirtle did not play well in the second bo5. Alive did. End of story.


An interesting point you brought up is that for BO wins to work Squirtle chose bad builds... I may have not watched the games closely enough but I had always thought the two rax and cloak banshees were preplanned with no prior scouting. While I agree that squirtle's decision making in the context of builds was questionable... honestly aLive kinda got lucky (game two was obvious, but game one was also in part to squirtle's average defence that was not enough)

And at the end of the game three when squirtle warped in units that were more upgraded and had a numbers advantage (granted not all the units were firing) against mostly marauders of around 2/3 the size and marauders end up winning something is troubling about that. Sure the game was much more than that but can you say with confidence that marauders alone during both the large and small engagement was the deciding factor? (cause it sure wasn't any godly micro on aLive's side)
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 09 2012 07:21 GMT
#15737
On April 09 2012 16:19 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:17 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:13 vndods wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:12 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:09 Fionn wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:07 Drigger wrote:
Poll: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

8 (34)
 
32%

7 (26)
 
24%

6 (17)
 
16%

9 (11)
 
10%

10 (11)
 
10%

4 (3)
 
3%

5 (3)
 
3%

1 (1)
 
1%

2 (1)
 
1%

3 (0)
 
0%

107 total votes

Your vote: Your personal IPL4 verdict?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 9
(Vote): 10





7.5/10.

The best tournament so far in 2012 is still Lone Star Clash. Amazing how a tournament run by kids and the weirdest line-up of players ever turned out to have the best games, interviews, and filler.


Player pool at lone star was too poor for me to consider it anywhere close to the best. Honestly don't know how you can even put it in contention. I only watched the finals of lone star because it wasn't an interesting tournament.

Despite the lower quality player pool it still had excellent production and was mad entertaining.

MLG > Lone Star > IPL4 for me so far.

If we are looking at it from a strictly production and running a tournament perspective I have to agree. IPL really dropped the ball all weekend. Lots of streaming problems, not showing enough open bracket games, not showing elimination games while showing meaningless games. IPL definitely needs to step it up for IPL5 and I believe they will.

They better lol, cause the hype going into this thing and the actual tournament was a complete letdown.

Now that you say hype, I want to add this. Day 1 and 2 had NO HYPE! It was boring honestly. It just wasn't doing it for me. MLG always manages to create this atmosphere that hooks me in so much. IPL didn't do that until Day 3 for me.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 09 2012 07:22 GMT
#15738
On April 09 2012 16:17 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:13 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy


oh hell no

aLive's IPL4 run:

2-0 Crank
2-0 Heart
2-1 Life
2-1 DRG
2-0 Ganzi
2-0 Puma
0-2 NesTea
2-0 Tails
2-0 Ganzi
2-1 Parting
2-1 Polt
2-1 MKP
3-1 NesTea
2-3 Squirtle
3-0 Squirtle


You can't add games from a qualifier. -_-;;

2 different beasts. Squirtle's run was all his games over 3 days + GSTL whereas for aLive 6 of those series you listed were online.


Reminds me of Stephano fans trying to make his IPL3 run more impressive than it was by including his online wins over MMA and Puzzle.
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Canada7089 Posts
April 09 2012 07:22 GMT
#15739
On April 09 2012 16:21 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 16:19 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:17 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:13 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 09 2012 16:05 SniperVul5 wrote:
That being said based on the road for both players squirtle undeniably had the tougher road and given his calibre of games I just don't see how aLive is worthy of the trophy


oh hell no

aLive's IPL4 run:

2-0 Crank
2-0 Heart
2-1 Life
2-1 DRG
2-0 Ganzi
2-0 Puma
0-2 NesTea
2-0 Tails
2-0 Ganzi
2-1 Parting
2-1 Polt
2-1 MKP
3-1 NesTea
2-3 Squirtle
3-0 Squirtle


You can't add games from a qualifier. -_-;;

2 different beasts. Squirtle's run was all his games over 3 days + GSTL whereas for aLive 6 of those series you listed were online.


People are adding Squirtle's qualifier games over no-names, why not add aLive's over 2 of the top 3 from the latest MLG?


Because squirtle's games all took place at the venue in the open bracket. You can't add alive's games from the online qualifiers months ago.


And Squirtle only had one no name: Demonlord after that the weakest player he faced was FnaticToD
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Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 09 2012 07:24 GMT
#15740
And to think that aLive was 4th in his GSL Ro32 and faces an elim match just stay in Code A... Goes to show how good the players are and how close in skill they are. Almost anyone can make a run.
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