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On March 09 2012 22:37 Logros wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:35 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:32 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:30 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 09 2012 22:29 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:24 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:24 StarVe wrote:On March 09 2012 22:22 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:21 DOUDOU wrote:
so exactly who didn't believe me when i said a week ago that feast would go very far? He was extremely fortunate that DRG pulled out. Yeah, the only match he lost in his group stage was to DRG's replacement Darkforce, that totally made the difference here. DRG would have won his group. God Seraphone. Everytime a foreign player do well you get on TL and bring them down with you endless negativity. Why are you doing this ?? Would you rather have DRG come to this to lose to MMA or stay in Korea and win GSTL for MVP? It´s not my point. But look at all the thread in this IEM and you can see Seraphone and his endless negativity every time a foriegner does well. I simply dont understand Everyone else blindly supports foreigners, completely downplays/ignores Koreans despite them being clearly better and celebrates every foreign win even if it's one guy donating 2 Immortals for free and losing a PvP like they just witnessed Bisu vs Savior a second time around. Pretty sure I'm allowed to cheer for Koreans especially as I'm no more obnoxious about it than countless people are for foreigners. There's a difference between cheering for Koreans and shitting on every foreigner that manages to do well.
Loads of posters shit on every Korean and write things like:
"So outclassed"
"Outplayed"
"Dominated"
when a guy wins a PvP vs a Korean nevermind if they actually win a real matchup, hell they don't even need to win a series, just one game in a best of x will do.
And how often do people say a foreign player outplayed the Korean every way and yet the Korean wins?
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On March 09 2012 22:36 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:34 hooahah wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... I didn't know Stephano played Protoss Is Stephano beating a lot of good koreans ?
lmao at this , just see the replay pack of his trip in korea where in managed to reach top grand master korean ladder in a few days from a master account...
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On March 09 2012 22:39 Benjamin80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:36 0ne wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 hooahah wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... I didn't know Stephano played Protoss Is Stephano beating a lot of good koreans ? Well he did whipe the floor with Puma in Assemply and Zenio in NASL and Puma is in the semi finals so ill say yea he does
What about Polt whiping the floor with Stephano?
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On March 09 2012 22:39 AxionSteel wrote:
maybe I missed some MMA tvp's this GSL season or somethingbut I thought his TvP had got considerably better the last few times I saw it (pretty recently), I think people saying his tvp is weak, or even average are greatly underrating it, the caster wasn't that far off the mark in my opinion.
Agreed. Anyways for the finals, MMA can also just call ThorZaIN and ask him about a nice strat to win 
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On March 09 2012 22:40 Benjamin80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. Did you watch the games?? They were so close. anyway I have had enough of you bashing/negativity have a nice day sir
Almost every game of Sc2 is close -- until it's not.
Especially in TvP where both players make a ball, balls meet one guy wins.
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On March 09 2012 22:37 Logros wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:35 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:32 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:30 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 09 2012 22:29 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:24 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:24 StarVe wrote:On March 09 2012 22:22 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:21 DOUDOU wrote:
so exactly who didn't believe me when i said a week ago that feast would go very far? He was extremely fortunate that DRG pulled out. Yeah, the only match he lost in his group stage was to DRG's replacement Darkforce, that totally made the difference here. DRG would have won his group. God Seraphone. Everytime a foreign player do well you get on TL and bring them down with you endless negativity. Why are you doing this ?? Would you rather have DRG come to this to lose to MMA or stay in Korea and win GSTL for MVP? It´s not my point. But look at all the thread in this IEM and you can see Seraphone and his endless negativity every time a foriegner does well. I simply dont understand Everyone else blindly supports foreigners, completely downplays/ignores Koreans despite them being clearly better and celebrates every foreign win even if it's one guy donating 2 Immortals for free and losing a PvP like they just witnessed Bisu vs Savior a second time around. Pretty sure I'm allowed to cheer for Koreans especially as I'm no more obnoxious about it than countless people are for foreigners. There's a difference between cheering for Koreans and shitting on every foreigner that manages to do well.
Agreed. It seems some people just want the complete destruction of the Foreign SC2 Pro scene and a situation where the only Pro SC2 players are Korean. The only way the Foreign Scene can sustain Pro players is to have Foreign players winning prize money. Foreign success is critical to maintain growth and popularity of the Foreign SC2 scene.
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On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad.
PvP is far from luck based and what top pro have said that..?
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On March 09 2012 22:40 Benjamin80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. Did you watch the games?? They were so close. anyway I have had enough of you bashing/negativity have a nice day sir
just do it like I do, When you see Seraphone don't even bother reading the content 
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All four group stage winners are top 4 now. Seems like they are really the best for for this tournament
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time for some good ole cs 1.6 (SK vs ESC)
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On March 09 2012 22:41 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:39 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:36 0ne wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 hooahah wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... I didn't know Stephano played Protoss Is Stephano beating a lot of good koreans ? Well he did whipe the floor with Puma in Assemply and Zenio in NASL and Puma is in the semi finals so ill say yea he does What about Polt whiping the floor with Stephano?
Losing to Polt is bad? Well that means MMA is a bad player also considering Polt beats MMA all the time. People lose 30% of all there matches. The best players only got 70% win ratio in a matchup
I dont see you point
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when is the next match yo?
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On March 09 2012 22:42 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:40 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. Did you watch the games?? They were so close. anyway I have had enough of you bashing/negativity have a nice day sir [..] balls meet one guy wins.
hehe :p
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On March 09 2012 22:43 TaKemE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. PvP is far from luck based and what top pro have said that..?
Huk said it just yesterday...
In addition Grubby said it on stream this tournament. Hasu said it in one of the interviews for this as well.
and that's just in the last few days.
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On March 09 2012 22:40 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. Supernova has bad TvP, MMA has okay TvP.
SuperNoVas TvP is great...
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On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad.
Did you watch the games vs MMA?
Did you watch that bs on game 3?
No wonder why Blizzard patched mules after such a stupid game.
And even without that the games where alot closer, so please don't comment just on results since he's talking about gameplay.
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On March 09 2012 22:43 TaKemE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. PvP is far from luck based and what top pro have said that..?
Not really luck based, but extremely volatile. One mistake, even tiny ones, can cost you the game. Every players make mistakes, so it's just a matter of who makes the first one: that is the "random" aspect of PvP that people complain about.
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On March 09 2012 22:43 Roxen000 wrote:
when is the next match yo?
In about 15 minutes, methinks.
Edit: It was only 5. GAME ON!!!
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On March 09 2012 22:44 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:43 TaKemE wrote:On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. PvP is far from luck based and what top pro have said that..? Huk said it just yesterday... In addition Grubby said it on stream this tournament. Hasu said it in one of the interviews for this as well. and that's just in the last few days.
Sure and where were the "luck" in the games we just watched?
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On March 09 2012 22:43 Benjamin80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:41 0ne wrote:On March 09 2012 22:39 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:36 0ne wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 hooahah wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... I didn't know Stephano played Protoss Is Stephano beating a lot of good koreans ? Well he did whipe the floor with Puma in Assemply and Zenio in NASL and Puma is in the semi finals so ill say yea he does What about Polt whiping the floor with Stephano? Losing to Polt is bad? Well that means MMA is a bad player also considering Polt beats MMA all the time. People lose 30% of all there matches. The best players only got 70% win ratio in a matchup I dont see you point
his doesn't have a point, he understood "he beats koreans" as "he beats every korean"
sometimes i feel like when i argue on these forums that people are just understanding some words from a post, not the whole sentences, and they randomly reply to those. but it's really hard to resist replying to them
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EPT
