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On March 09 2012 22:29 Vadrigar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:27 eurTsItniH wrote:On March 09 2012 22:23 Doublemint wrote:On March 09 2012 22:21 Meovin- wrote: In warcraft3 the only european hope was Grubby, and now it's his 'student'. How typical ToD,Creolophus,Satinii,Caravaggio,Insomnia....ETC... would like to have a word with you  Santinii? You kidding me? Also Caravaggio and Insomnia were both good, but they never really won anything against the Asians. Grubby and ToD were the only europeans consistently competing with the Korean and Chinese players Not true- Insomnia won a WCG and was one of the best in the world for a time. Does anyone know what Insomnia is doing these days? Work & stuff? No gaming anymore?
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On March 09 2012 22:30 setzer wrote: Can we not overhype another non-Korean until he actually has accomplishments on a more consistent basis and not simply in two IEM tournaments? People are far too quick to put players on pedestals and far too quick to tear them down from the platform they have been raised up on. I don't see any overhype. Just hype. Which he deserves, it's no easy feat placing as high as he has at 2 IEM tournaments. Especially for being relatively unknown beforehand.
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MC vs MiniMc.
Still rooting for Feast, but I am afraid MC will take it.
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On March 09 2012 22:31 thepuppyassassin wrote: Feast taking this series..knew it.. probably saved his best builds for MC. I'm calling it now. Feast will win IEM WC
Would have had more meaning had you called it before the tournament started...
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On March 09 2012 22:27 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:26 Seiniyta wrote:On March 09 2012 22:24 morbvs wrote:On March 09 2012 22:12 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:On March 09 2012 22:05 Logros wrote:On March 09 2012 22:04 Seraphone wrote: 7 out of 8 Quarter Finalists are Korean on European Soil. You can make all the jokes you like but foreigners got destroyed this tournament by just a sample of some very good Koreans and some decent Koreans. Seeing as the Ro4 has MMA, Puma and MC it's not really a shame, but yeah, I hoped at least some more foreigners could compete here. The foreigner lineup was disapointing to say the least. No top foreigners even there. Where's Thorzain, naniwa, stephano? They all failed to qualify... Either failed in the qualifiers for the the IEM Global Challenges or did not to do well enough in the actual Global Challenges (in case they managed to qualify) to earn enough points to qualify for the World Championship event. Naniwa pulled back out of the tournament. Why? He would have been the best foreigner here for sure
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6_ranking/
No, he did not pull out. He was only 33rd in the ranking... Might be that he was invited as replacement for ST_Sound who pulled out 1 day before the event started but could not manage to travel in time... But he has not qualified.
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On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote: Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD
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On March 09 2012 22:32 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:29 Logros wrote: Belgians 100% to the next round, Koreans 43% to the next round, pretty clear no? It's a known fact that the Belgian ladder is the hardest 
Well if Feast is all you play ... i would agree Though i remember there is also a descent zerg from Belgium, forgot his name sadly, made a nice run in MLG last year.
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On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote: Where would foreigners be without PvP...
I didn't know Stephano played Protoss
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If Feast beats MC, MMA should take the tournament. Otherwise it's a toss up.
And MMA has at least a top 5 TvT in the world so I can't see him losing to PuMa.
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On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote: Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD
Such a silly thing to say when talking about Feast seeing as PvT is his best matchup.
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On March 09 2012 22:34 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:32 hooahah wrote:On March 09 2012 22:29 Logros wrote: Belgians 100% to the next round, Koreans 43% to the next round, pretty clear no? It's a known fact that the Belgian ladder is the hardest  Well if Feast is all you play ... i would agree  Though i remember there is also a descent zerg from Belgium, forgot his name sadly, made a nice run in MLG last year.
Orly is a nice player.
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On March 09 2012 22:33 KosQ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:31 thepuppyassassin wrote: Feast taking this series..knew it.. probably saved his best builds for MC. I'm calling it now. Feast will win IEM WC I think he has very little chance vs any of the 2 terrans even if he advances, can't coinflip out of a tvp 
He doesnt have a big chance against Puma, since his TvP is some of the best. But MMA's TvP is definately beatable. Feast has great PvT, and its his best matchup.
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On March 09 2012 22:32 Benjamin80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:30 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 09 2012 22:29 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:24 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:24 StarVe wrote:On March 09 2012 22:22 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:21 DOUDOU wrote: so exactly who didn't believe me when i said a week ago that feast would go very far? He was extremely fortunate that DRG pulled out. Yeah, the only match he lost in his group stage was to DRG's replacement Darkforce, that totally made the difference here. DRG would have won his group. God Seraphone. Everytime a foreign player do well you get on TL and bring them down with you endless negativity. Why are you doing this ?? Would you rather have DRG come to this to lose to MMA or stay in Korea and win GSTL for MVP? It´s not my point. But look at all the thread in this IEM and you can see Seraphone and his endless negativity every time a foriegner does well. I simply dont understand
Everyone else blindly supports foreigners, completely downplays/ignores Koreans despite them being clearly better and celebrates every foreign win even if it's one guy donating 2 Immortals for free and losing a PvP like they just witnessed Bisu vs Savior a second time around.
Pretty sure I'm allowed to cheer for Koreans especially as I'm no more obnoxious about it than countless people are for foreigners.
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On March 09 2012 22:33 KosQ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:31 thepuppyassassin wrote: Feast taking this series..knew it.. probably saved his best builds for MC. I'm calling it now. Feast will win IEM WC I think he has very little chance vs any of the 2 terrans even if he advances, can't coinflip out of a tvp 
You don't follow EG master's cup do you ? :D
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On March 09 2012 22:30 setzer wrote: Can we not overhype another non-Korean until he actually has accomplishments on a more consistent basis and not simply in two IEM tournaments? People are far too quick to put players on pedestals and far too quick to tear them down from the platform they have been raised up on. It's not overhyping! There is only one foreigner left and most of the people here are happy that he's doing well. NO ONE thinks he's the next MC or whatever. We are just happy that's it's not a total korean domination.
And think about the Belgium guys. They have now a really good player in the spotlight. Of course they are thrilled as fuck :D
Can't understand people coming into the LR threads (not you in person) and try to talk down every foreign (small) victory. You really think we don't know Koreans are the better players and will most likely ever be? Ofc they are but some foreigners are fighting against them very well and they get my/our support all day long!
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On March 09 2012 22:34 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote: Where would foreigners be without PvP... I didn't know Stephano played Protoss Is Stephano beating a lot of good koreans ?
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On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote: Where would foreigners be without PvP...
Feast just beat Puma in the EGMC and if they meet here again (3rd place match or final) my money would be on him. His pvt is awesome.
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On March 09 2012 22:35 Warpish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:34 Lysanias wrote:On March 09 2012 22:32 hooahah wrote:On March 09 2012 22:29 Logros wrote: Belgians 100% to the next round, Koreans 43% to the next round, pretty clear no? It's a known fact that the Belgian ladder is the hardest  Well if Feast is all you play ... i would agree  Though i remember there is also a descent zerg from Belgium, forgot his name sadly, made a nice run in MLG last year. Orly is a nice player.
Yes ty that is the one, i have not seen him in a while but he's very skilled aswell.
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On March 09 2012 22:34 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:32 hooahah wrote:On March 09 2012 22:29 Logros wrote: Belgians 100% to the next round, Koreans 43% to the next round, pretty clear no? It's a known fact that the Belgian ladder is the hardest  Well if Feast is all you play ... i would agree  Though i remember there is also a descent zerg from Belgium, forgot his name sadly, made a nice run in MLG last year.
Orly. He's the guy who did some mid game nydus build vs Idra at Dreamhack and Idra didn't gg.
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