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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 09 2012 13:30 GMT
#1561
Can we not overhype another non-Korean until he actually has accomplishments on a more consistent basis and not simply in two IEM tournaments? People are far too quick to put players on pedestals and far too quick to tear them down from the platform they have been raised up on.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
March 09 2012 13:30 GMT
#1562
On March 09 2012 22:29 Benjamin80 wrote:
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On March 09 2012 22:24 Seraphone wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:24 StarVe wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:22 Seraphone wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:21 DOUDOU wrote:
so exactly who didn't believe me when i said a week ago that feast would go very far?


He was extremely fortunate that DRG pulled out.


Yeah, the only match he lost in his group stage was to DRG's replacement Darkforce, that totally made the difference here.


DRG would have won his group.


God Seraphone. Everytime a foreign player do well you get on TL and bring them down with you endless negativity. Why are you doing this ??


Would you rather have DRG come to this to lose to MMA or stay in Korea and win GSTL for MVP?
I am Godzilla You are Japan
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
March 09 2012 13:30 GMT
#1563
Wow. razer is really inefficient with their mouse production. No wonder they are so expensive. 2 words. Assembly line.
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
March 09 2012 13:31 GMT
#1564
MC has been vulnerable in PvP recently so maybe Feast can even make it to the final. Would be very cool for him.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
March 09 2012 13:31 GMT
#1565
Feast taking this series..knew it.. probably saved his best builds for MC. I'm calling it now. Feast will win IEM WC
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8703 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1566
On March 09 2012 22:27 eurTsItniH wrote:
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On March 09 2012 22:23 Doublemint wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:21 Meovin- wrote:
In warcraft3 the only european hope was Grubby, and now it's his 'student'. How typical


ToD,Creolophus,Satinii,Caravaggio,Insomnia....ETC... would like to have a word with you



Santinii? You kidding me? Also Caravaggio and Insomnia were both good, but they never really won anything against the Asians. Grubby and ToD were the only europeans consistently competing with the Korean and Chinese players


Insomnia changed the metagame so dramatically...and was a fucking great SK gaming Terran - along many others(He-man/Survivor <3 good old times), Satinii was at one point at the top(AT least in EU), I think when mouz picked him up, not putting him up there is BS tbh... Caravaggio was more of the early stages of wc3 and left the scene - so you may have a point there. Point is - there were a shitton of good/excellent EU players - did not even name Zeus - Fury - Demu etc etc....
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1567
On March 09 2012 22:30 setzer wrote:
Can we not overhype another non-Korean until he actually has accomplishments on a more consistent basis and not simply in two IEM tournaments? People are far too quick to put players on pedestals and far too quick to tear them down from the platform they have been raised up on.


Strange, I don't see anyone calling him one of the best protoss players in the world, or even the best foreign protoss etc, lol.
I think people are just enjoying his run through this tournament, and he does seem to be one of the foriengers on the rise lately.

hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1568
On March 09 2012 22:29 Logros wrote:
Belgians 100% to the next round, Koreans 43% to the next round, pretty clear no?


It's a known fact that the Belgian ladder is the hardest
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1569
On March 09 2012 22:30 setzer wrote:
Can we not overhype another non-Korean until he actually has accomplishments on a more consistent basis and not simply in two IEM tournaments? People are far too quick to put players on pedestals and far too quick to tear them down from the platform they have been raised up on.


Feast has been consistently beating players considered above him with a unique, aggressive style for a while now.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1570
On March 09 2012 22:29 Fragile51 wrote:
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On March 09 2012 22:28 zefreak wrote:
Man these casters are clueless when it doesn't come to PvP lol. Two most formidable TvP in the world? Yeah..


It's called hyping up a match. Jesus, how clueless are You?


Oh, my bad I forgot people want this to be WWF with the artificial hype and storylines.
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TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 13:33:37
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1571
On March 09 2012 22:26 Seraphone wrote:
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On March 09 2012 22:24 Rustug wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:21 Seraphone wrote:
Both players micro was crappy in that fight, both had Immortals killing Zealots and Sentries and once they died they were even killing other immortals.

Sad how pro players still make such fundamental fails.


Dude, you just don't get it. Have you ever heard of pressure.
This is stressful for both players. You have no idea what competition is about.

Feast Fighting!


Focusing with immortals is not really difficult. You should expect more of your pro gamers.


Its not as easy as you make it sound like when you have to move stalkers back all the time and can only have a few hit the immortal at the same time, each time you move the stalkers a bit you have to target fire it again and at the same time blinking all other stalkers. You cant just move forward with all your stalkers and target it down since it will cost alot dmg to you.

Many other top korean pro players also have a hard time doing it sometimes when armies are so even.
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1572
Feast was even tweeting in between the games, what a boss haha...
eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1573
On March 09 2012 22:29 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 22:27 eurTsItniH wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:23 Doublemint wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:21 Meovin- wrote:
In warcraft3 the only european hope was Grubby, and now it's his 'student'. How typical


ToD,Creolophus,Satinii,Caravaggio,Insomnia....ETC... would like to have a word with you



Santinii? You kidding me? Also Caravaggio and Insomnia were both good, but they never really won anything against the Asians. Grubby and ToD were the only europeans consistently competing with the Korean and Chinese players

Inso was the best ROC player :p

Otherwise Creo and also Happy come to mind. Creo was the shit when he went fulltime pro for a year.




Well Creo actually never really won something until he went semi-inactive lol. About Insomnia, yeah you're right.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1574
On March 09 2012 22:28 zefreak wrote:
Man these casters are clueless when it doesn't come to PvP lol. Two most formidable TvP in the world? Yeah..

its classic move by casters to hype their players along with the matches as much as possible

they know very well who are the top players and they know what they said isnt entirely true. they both are among the top players in the world (maybe top15 tvp, inside this range) but its better if they say it this way

point being, just sit back and enjoy the show and dont think about it too much when they talk about players skill-level
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1575
On March 09 2012 22:30 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 22:29 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:24 Seraphone wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:24 StarVe wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:22 Seraphone wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:21 DOUDOU wrote:
so exactly who didn't believe me when i said a week ago that feast would go very far?


He was extremely fortunate that DRG pulled out.


Yeah, the only match he lost in his group stage was to DRG's replacement Darkforce, that totally made the difference here.


DRG would have won his group.


God Seraphone. Everytime a foreign player do well you get on TL and bring them down with you endless negativity. Why are you doing this ??


Would you rather have DRG come to this to lose to MMA or stay in Korea and win GSTL for MVP?


It´s not my point. But look at all the thread in this IEM and you can see Seraphone and his endless negativity every time a foriegner does well. I simply dont understand
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2012 13:32 GMT
#1576
On March 09 2012 22:30 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 22:29 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:24 Seraphone wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:24 StarVe wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:22 Seraphone wrote:
On March 09 2012 22:21 DOUDOU wrote:
so exactly who didn't believe me when i said a week ago that feast would go very far?


He was extremely fortunate that DRG pulled out.


Yeah, the only match he lost in his group stage was to DRG's replacement Darkforce, that totally made the difference here.


DRG would have won his group.


God Seraphone. Everytime a foreign player do well you get on TL and bring them down with you endless negativity. Why are you doing this ??


Would you rather have DRG come to this to lose to MMA or stay in Korea and win GSTL for MVP?

So true. So so true. They get a free trip to IPL 3 if he won.

Spoiler GSTL
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DRG actually won it for them
I had a good night of sleep.
LastLordofCastamere
Profile Joined February 2011
288 Posts
March 09 2012 13:33 GMT
#1577
Where would foreigners be without PvP...
"And who are you", the proud lord said "That I must bow so low?"
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
March 09 2012 13:33 GMT
#1578
On March 09 2012 22:30 setzer wrote:
Can we not overhype another non-Korean until he actually has accomplishments on a more consistent basis and not simply in two IEM tournaments? People are far too quick to put players on pedestals and far too quick to tear them down from the platform they have been raised up on.


Well these are the only tournaments Feast has played in so far you know? And SC2 is still part time for him, he's still in high school. So all hype is justified. Look what happened with Stephano when he went SC2 full time.
KosQ
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany223 Posts
March 09 2012 13:33 GMT
#1579
On March 09 2012 22:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Feast taking this series..knew it.. probably saved his best builds for MC. I'm calling it now. Feast will win IEM WC

I think he has very little chance vs any of the 2 terrans even if he advances, can't coinflip out of a tvp
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 13:33:28
March 09 2012 13:33 GMT
#1580
On March 09 2012 22:30 setzer wrote:
Can we not overhype another non-Korean until he actually has accomplishments on a more consistent basis and not simply in two IEM tournaments? People are far too quick to put players on pedestals and far too quick to tear them down from the platform they have been raised up on.


Yes, but that is true for everything in life, not just sc2 players.
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