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On March 09 2012 22:44 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:40 Femari wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. Supernova has bad TvP, MMA has okay TvP. SuperNoVas TvP is great...
Supernova TvP % in all competitions: 53%
MMA's is 61%
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On March 09 2012 22:49 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:46 Wegandi wrote:On March 09 2012 22:44 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:43 TaKemE wrote:On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. PvP is far from luck based and what top pro have said that..? Huk said it just yesterday... In addition Grubby said it on stream this tournament. Hasu said it in one of the interviews for this as well. and that's just in the last few days. Ask any Korean and they'll tell you that Foreigner skill is nearly equal to Korean now-a-days. I think on any given day the top Foreigners have just as much chance to beat most of the top Koreans. Now, if you are talking about BO7 or 9's, that's probably a different story, but if our scene continues to improve, it's not so far-fetched that the best player in the world will be a Foreigner. To be honest, most koreans that say that are just overly polite. Listen to anyone's interviews besides MC, they are the most politically correct answers ever.
It's a little known fact that every Korean male over the age of 21 is running for president.
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On March 09 2012 22:46 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:45 Rybaia wrote:On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. Did you watch the games vs MMA? Did you watch that bs on game 3? No wonder why Blizzard patched mules after such a stupid game. And even without that the games where alot closer, so please don't comment just on results since he's talking about gameplay. Losing 3-1 in your best matchup vs another guys worst matchup will never ever be incredible no matter how you spin it.
Yeah let's not take into account that that was his 1st important tournament. It's useless that you keep saying that he didn't do well cuz he actually did. And alot of people still think that the series would have tourned out differently without gold bases (I remember you that all the other major leagues decided to remove golds due to imbalance). But I'll not keep quote your posts don't worry. I figured out what kind of dude you are.
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On March 09 2012 22:51 thepuppyassassin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:49 zefreak wrote:On March 09 2012 22:46 Wegandi wrote:On March 09 2012 22:44 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:43 TaKemE wrote:On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. PvP is far from luck based and what top pro have said that..? Huk said it just yesterday... In addition Grubby said it on stream this tournament. Hasu said it in one of the interviews for this as well. and that's just in the last few days. Ask any Korean and they'll tell you that Foreigner skill is nearly equal to Korean now-a-days. I think on any given day the top Foreigners have just as much chance to beat most of the top Koreans. Now, if you are talking about BO7 or 9's, that's probably a different story, but if our scene continues to improve, it's not so far-fetched that the best player in the world will be a Foreigner. To be honest, most koreans that say that are just overly polite. Listen to anyone's interviews besides MC, they are the most politically correct answers ever. It's a little known fact that every Korean male over the age of 21 is running for president.
They certainly act like it!
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does anyone know if the final is played today?
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United States33660 Posts
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GAH! I don't care about this match! MMA, Puma, makes no difference! I want to see Feast's game!
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On March 09 2012 22:52 Roxen000 wrote:
does anyone know if the final is played today?
no its played tomorrow
3rdplacematch aswell tomorrow morning
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On March 09 2012 22:49 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:47 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:46 Wegandi wrote:On March 09 2012 22:44 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:43 TaKemE wrote:On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. PvP is far from luck based and what top pro have said that..? Huk said it just yesterday... In addition Grubby said it on stream this tournament. Hasu said it in one of the interviews for this as well. and that's just in the last few days. Ask any Korean and they'll tell you that Foreigner skill is nearly equal to Korean now-a-days. I think on any given day the top Foreigners have just as much chance to beat most of the top Koreans. Now, if you are talking about BO7 or 9's, that's probably a different story, but if our scene continues to improve, it's not so far-fetched that the best player in the world will be a Foreigner. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournamentsand yet Koreans have won every premier tournament in the last five months. Koreans have always said foreigners are equal in skill, they're just being polite rather than being insane BM on the foreign stream, in front of the foreign fans to the foreign casters. Also quite a bit of foreigners in those 2nd place spots, Sure Korea is dominate but they have the best training system in the world for sc2 right now.
4/12 had foreigners in the finals. In most of those tournaments though Koreans were poorly represented. IEM Sao Paolo had none of the Korean top 10. IEM Kiev had MMA and none of the other top 10. HSC had just MC and MKP.
While foreigners certainly weren't represented perfectly at any of those tournaments, they almost always have a lot more of their top player in attendence than the Koreans do.
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Ouch, Puma with poor map study.
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On March 09 2012 22:52 Roxen000 wrote:
does anyone know if the final is played today?
final is tommorrow
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On March 09 2012 22:52 Roxen000 wrote:
does anyone know if the final is played today?
Final will be played tomorrow, 3rd place decider will be played before that  . MMA vs Puma is the 2nd last bo5 today, Feast vs MC will be after this, casted by Grubby and me!
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piewmah has good turret timing. Damn.
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how does observer miss entirety of MMA's build after factory
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Lets play a game. First person who reacts to Seraphone is loser. Are you with me?
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On March 09 2012 22:50 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:48 msjakofsky wrote:On March 09 2012 22:45 TaKemE wrote:On March 09 2012 22:44 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:43 TaKemE wrote:On March 09 2012 22:39 Seraphone wrote:On March 09 2012 22:37 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 09 2012 22:34 MorroW wrote:On March 09 2012 22:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Where would foreigners be without PvP... haha kinda true. remove pvp and stephano and theres not much hope left xD Morrow Feast did beat Supernova and played incredible vs MMA last IEM so not exactly true. See this is exact kind of post. Losing 3-1 in MMA's worst match up is incredible? How insanely blind in favour of the foreigner is this post? and yet if I dare to suggest PvP is luck based (something which every pro player comfirms over and over) people get mad. PvP is far from luck based and what top pro have said that..? Huk said it just yesterday... In addition Grubby said it on stream this tournament. Hasu said it in one of the interviews for this as well. and that's just in the last few days. Sure and where were the "luck" in the games we just watched? it's one of the more volatile matchups, but certainly not 100% random, we wouldn't have players who excel at pvp... don't listen to huk cuz he wrote that out of frustration and don't listen to those who say it's 100% skill based cuz neither of those is true The Game Feast lost where he got caught in the middle of the map was pure luck for Killer for one. You also forget that players don't have map hacks, most of their decisions are done extremely blind in PvP with regards to tech and probe production.
Thats not luck... Feast made a misstake by not scouting there as it is a good place to go for an atk (he was about to do it himself same place), a base trade would also probably be a better decision when going back when he saw no army in killers base.
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On March 09 2012 22:54 Waxangel wrote:
how does observer miss entirety of MMA's build after factory
i think problem is, that they dont have a real terran caster.
bitter is zerg, and i think apollo is toss? but not sure about apollo
/edit forget about the apollo thing played terran in ffa^^
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On March 09 2012 22:54 RotterdaM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 22:52 Roxen000 wrote:
does anyone know if the final is played today? Final will be played tomorrow, 3rd place decider will be played before that . MMA vs Puma is the 2nd last bo5 today, Feast vs MC will be after this, casted by Grubby and me!
Sounds like Protoss christmas. :D
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On March 09 2012 22:53 Waxangel wrote:
what the fuck observer
What the fuck what?
Instead of saying useless shit like that why dont you tell us what happened? Not everyone here is streaming, I am actually relying on these people to tell us what is happening.
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EPT
