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On March 09 2012 09:49 chuky500 wrote:
Feast looks so Korean on the small picture. Feast fighting !
lol right, he looks like one of those "US-koreans", the cool ones not the geeky ones ;p
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Seems everyone believes that MMA will be in the final. Don't you think Puma is a hard opponent for MMA?
PPl know that Puma' tvp is strong and his tvz is a bit weak. But seems noone comments too much on his tvt. Base on my memory, I believe he is super gosu with his tvt.
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On March 09 2012 06:18 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 06:02 Jlei wrote:On March 09 2012 05:39 Poopi wrote:On March 09 2012 05:27 McFeser wrote:
This is the easiest set of predictions I have ever made.
MMA will win against Zenio. Last they met, MMA butchered him.
JYP, the worst TvP players against one of the best. Hmmm .. . . I wonder who will win.
Feast, a great PvP player, against Sangho (who has only won one PvP BoX series and has a 31 win rate in the matchup)
And then you have MC vs Violet. This one is a little closer, but despite Violet's phenomanal play, he is going up against on the deadliest protosses out there. TvZ has become incredibly difficult (like even more than it was pre-patch) and MMA hasn't had the same TvZ success outside of korea, so it's not certain that MMA will crush Zenio. I really hope that he will though. PuMa's TvP is decent but now that 1-1-1 doesn't really work that often I don't see him winning against JYP in bo5, even if JYP was kinda bad in PvT. Plus they are teammates so it's really hard to predict. Feast vs Sangho, pvp, anything can happen. JYP vs HerO HerO had a really bad winrate against protoss, but I liquidbetted him because I thought JYP was kinda bad despite his good PvP winrate, and well HerO won lol. HongUn had a 0% PvP winrate and 3-1ed MC who had like 90% at that time... winrates don't mean anything regarding koreans since they improve really fast. I agree on MC vs viOlet, MC got this MMA didn't really use Ghosts TvZ anyways. He just multitasks like a mad men and usually kills the Zerg before Hive can be established and then relentlessly drops the expansions when you tech up to Hive. How you beat him TvZ is you Roach Baneling all in him. DRG did it a lot, Lucky did it to him a bunch etc. his style is really greedy and he likes to take a quick 3rd. It's a best of 5 so I think he can get cheesed out a couple of times but won't lose a standard game to Zenio. If you try to play a Macro game against him, even if you are Leenock or DRG you lose every time since you will fall apart against his style in the late game. Then why did Leenock have such a good record against him? Don't underestimate Leenock & DRG like that :s. Even if MMA did not use ghosts the patch will still affect him
The only time Leenock won against MMA was at MLG Providence, 2-1. Before that, MMA beat him 1-0 in November 2011 Code S, 2-0 at Blizzard Cup, and then beat him in the GSTL also. Yeah, good record my ass.
MMA never uses Ghosts...even in macro 30-minute games against DRG and Lucky MMA didn't make any Ghosts. He just dropped the shit out of them.
On March 09 2012 11:10 double620 wrote:
Seems everyone believes that MMA will be in the final. Don't you think Puma is a hard opponent for MMA?
PPl know that Puma' tvp is strong and his tvz is a bit weak. But seems noone comments too much on his tvt. Base on my memory, I believe he is super gosu with his tvt.
Puma has a really methodical, patient TvT style where he mainly goes mech. Even if he goes bio, his marine-tank/MMM isn't particularly stellar, Polt is on a whole different level. He has had problems dealing with hyper-aggressive Terrans that drop a lot and can be everywhere at once such as MarineKing in the Iron Squid tourney.
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I know it might be too much to ask but I am hoping JYP can beat Puma  Though I do like them both. Puma helped JYP with his PvT a lot so I hope JYP isn't so nervous when PvT'ing against Puma
Even if he won against Puma, MMA is a whole different kettle of fish >.<
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The bromance of mr. bitter and rotterdam is encroaching on that of Tastosis'. lovin it
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Puma 3 - 1 JYP
MC 3 - 2 Violet
MMA 3 - 2 Zenio
Feast 3 - 2 Killer
Okay, I'm giving Zenio a lot of love. I hope he can pull through, but he probably has the worst odds here.
I like Feast's play, plus he has Grubby there to support him.
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On March 09 2012 11:10 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 06:18 Poopi wrote:On March 09 2012 06:02 Jlei wrote:On March 09 2012 05:39 Poopi wrote:On March 09 2012 05:27 McFeser wrote:
This is the easiest set of predictions I have ever made.
MMA will win against Zenio. Last they met, MMA butchered him.
JYP, the worst TvP players against one of the best. Hmmm .. . . I wonder who will win.
Feast, a great PvP player, against Sangho (who has only won one PvP BoX series and has a 31 win rate in the matchup)
And then you have MC vs Violet. This one is a little closer, but despite Violet's phenomanal play, he is going up against on the deadliest protosses out there. TvZ has become incredibly difficult (like even more than it was pre-patch) and MMA hasn't had the same TvZ success outside of korea, so it's not certain that MMA will crush Zenio. I really hope that he will though. PuMa's TvP is decent but now that 1-1-1 doesn't really work that often I don't see him winning against JYP in bo5, even if JYP was kinda bad in PvT. Plus they are teammates so it's really hard to predict. Feast vs Sangho, pvp, anything can happen. JYP vs HerO HerO had a really bad winrate against protoss, but I liquidbetted him because I thought JYP was kinda bad despite his good PvP winrate, and well HerO won lol. HongUn had a 0% PvP winrate and 3-1ed MC who had like 90% at that time... winrates don't mean anything regarding koreans since they improve really fast. I agree on MC vs viOlet, MC got this MMA didn't really use Ghosts TvZ anyways. He just multitasks like a mad men and usually kills the Zerg before Hive can be established and then relentlessly drops the expansions when you tech up to Hive. How you beat him TvZ is you Roach Baneling all in him. DRG did it a lot, Lucky did it to him a bunch etc. his style is really greedy and he likes to take a quick 3rd. It's a best of 5 so I think he can get cheesed out a couple of times but won't lose a standard game to Zenio. If you try to play a Macro game against him, even if you are Leenock or DRG you lose every time since you will fall apart against his style in the late game. Then why did Leenock have such a good record against him? Don't underestimate Leenock & DRG like that :s. Even if MMA did not use ghosts the patch will still affect him The only time Leenock won against MMA was at MLG Providence, 2-1. Before that, MMA beat him 1-0 in November 2011 Code S, 2-0 at Blizzard Cup, and then beat him in the GSTL also. Yeah, good record my ass. MMA never uses Ghosts...even in macro 30-minute games against DRG and Lucky MMA didn't make any Ghosts. He just dropped the shit out of them. Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 11:10 double620 wrote:
Seems everyone believes that MMA will be in the final. Don't you think Puma is a hard opponent for MMA?
PPl know that Puma' tvp is strong and his tvz is a bit weak. But seems noone comments too much on his tvt. Base on my memory, I believe he is super gosu with his tvt.
Puma has a really methodical, patient TvT style where he mainly goes mech. Even if he goes bio, his marine-tank/MMM isn't particularly stellar, Polt is on a whole different level. He has had problems dealing with hyper-aggressive Terrans that drop a lot and can be everywhere at once such as MarineKing in the Iron Squid tourney.
But if I remembered it right, he did all kill prime team including match against MKP and Polt. Also, before he beated Mc in NASL, Puma was known for his tvt.
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On March 09 2012 11:11 pookadin wrote:I know it might be too much to ask but I am hoping JYP can beat Puma Though I do like them both. Puma helped JYP with his PvT a lot so I hope JYP isn't so nervous when PvT'ing against Puma Even if he won against Puma, MMA is a whole different kettle of fish >.<
MMA is weaker than PuMa against Protoss though, I highly doubt JYP stands a chance against EGs strongest player.
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Hey
Can loser choose map or maps are randomly chosen.
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btw, I am happy that the Mc vs Voilet match will be played earlier. I do not have to wait.
Both are very good at this mu so it should be good.
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On March 09 2012 11:10 double620 wrote:
Seems everyone believes that MMA will be in the final. Don't you think Puma is a hard opponent for MMA?
PPl know that Puma' tvp is strong and his tvz is a bit weak. But seems noone comments too much on his tvt. Base on my memory, I believe he is super gosu with his tvt.
I think Puma has a chance. MMA is definitely the favorite, but at times, Puma' TvT looks beastly. Another thing to remember is that Puma and MMA train together a lot. This could be a very interesting series.
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On March 09 2012 11:25 double620 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 11:10 Whatson wrote:On March 09 2012 06:18 Poopi wrote:On March 09 2012 06:02 Jlei wrote:On March 09 2012 05:39 Poopi wrote:On March 09 2012 05:27 McFeser wrote:
This is the easiest set of predictions I have ever made.
MMA will win against Zenio. Last they met, MMA butchered him.
JYP, the worst TvP players against one of the best. Hmmm .. . . I wonder who will win.
Feast, a great PvP player, against Sangho (who has only won one PvP BoX series and has a 31 win rate in the matchup)
And then you have MC vs Violet. This one is a little closer, but despite Violet's phenomanal play, he is going up against on the deadliest protosses out there. TvZ has become incredibly difficult (like even more than it was pre-patch) and MMA hasn't had the same TvZ success outside of korea, so it's not certain that MMA will crush Zenio. I really hope that he will though. PuMa's TvP is decent but now that 1-1-1 doesn't really work that often I don't see him winning against JYP in bo5, even if JYP was kinda bad in PvT. Plus they are teammates so it's really hard to predict. Feast vs Sangho, pvp, anything can happen. JYP vs HerO HerO had a really bad winrate against protoss, but I liquidbetted him because I thought JYP was kinda bad despite his good PvP winrate, and well HerO won lol. HongUn had a 0% PvP winrate and 3-1ed MC who had like 90% at that time... winrates don't mean anything regarding koreans since they improve really fast. I agree on MC vs viOlet, MC got this MMA didn't really use Ghosts TvZ anyways. He just multitasks like a mad men and usually kills the Zerg before Hive can be established and then relentlessly drops the expansions when you tech up to Hive. How you beat him TvZ is you Roach Baneling all in him. DRG did it a lot, Lucky did it to him a bunch etc. his style is really greedy and he likes to take a quick 3rd. It's a best of 5 so I think he can get cheesed out a couple of times but won't lose a standard game to Zenio. If you try to play a Macro game against him, even if you are Leenock or DRG you lose every time since you will fall apart against his style in the late game. Then why did Leenock have such a good record against him? Don't underestimate Leenock & DRG like that :s. Even if MMA did not use ghosts the patch will still affect him The only time Leenock won against MMA was at MLG Providence, 2-1. Before that, MMA beat him 1-0 in November 2011 Code S, 2-0 at Blizzard Cup, and then beat him in the GSTL also. Yeah, good record my ass. MMA never uses Ghosts...even in macro 30-minute games against DRG and Lucky MMA didn't make any Ghosts. He just dropped the shit out of them. On March 09 2012 11:10 double620 wrote:
Seems everyone believes that MMA will be in the final. Don't you think Puma is a hard opponent for MMA?
PPl know that Puma' tvp is strong and his tvz is a bit weak. But seems noone comments too much on his tvt. Base on my memory, I believe he is super gosu with his tvt.
Puma has a really methodical, patient TvT style where he mainly goes mech. Even if he goes bio, his marine-tank/MMM isn't particularly stellar, Polt is on a whole different level. He has had problems dealing with hyper-aggressive Terrans that drop a lot and can be everywhere at once such as MarineKing in the Iron Squid tourney. But if I remembered it right, he did all kill prime team including match against MKP and Polt. Also, before he beated Mc in NASL, Puma was known for his tvt.
Oh i'm not saying that Puma doesn't have a chance against MMA, his TvT is nothing to scoff at, but MMA made him look kinda silly at IPL3.
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3-2 jyp
3-1 mc
3-0 mma
3-0 killer
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On March 09 2012 14:00 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote:
MMA to win this
can mma beat mc? I don't know about that
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MMA to take it all. Yep, yep, yep.
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Russian Federation676 Posts
MMA vs MC finals - should be interesting.
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On March 09 2012 11:25 double620 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 11:10 Whatson wrote:On March 09 2012 06:18 Poopi wrote:On March 09 2012 06:02 Jlei wrote:On March 09 2012 05:39 Poopi wrote:On March 09 2012 05:27 McFeser wrote:
This is the easiest set of predictions I have ever made.
MMA will win against Zenio. Last they met, MMA butchered him.
JYP, the worst TvP players against one of the best. Hmmm .. . . I wonder who will win.
Feast, a great PvP player, against Sangho (who has only won one PvP BoX series and has a 31 win rate in the matchup)
And then you have MC vs Violet. This one is a little closer, but despite Violet's phenomanal play, he is going up against on the deadliest protosses out there. TvZ has become incredibly difficult (like even more than it was pre-patch) and MMA hasn't had the same TvZ success outside of korea, so it's not certain that MMA will crush Zenio. I really hope that he will though. PuMa's TvP is decent but now that 1-1-1 doesn't really work that often I don't see him winning against JYP in bo5, even if JYP was kinda bad in PvT. Plus they are teammates so it's really hard to predict. Feast vs Sangho, pvp, anything can happen. JYP vs HerO HerO had a really bad winrate against protoss, but I liquidbetted him because I thought JYP was kinda bad despite his good PvP winrate, and well HerO won lol. HongUn had a 0% PvP winrate and 3-1ed MC who had like 90% at that time... winrates don't mean anything regarding koreans since they improve really fast. I agree on MC vs viOlet, MC got this MMA didn't really use Ghosts TvZ anyways. He just multitasks like a mad men and usually kills the Zerg before Hive can be established and then relentlessly drops the expansions when you tech up to Hive. How you beat him TvZ is you Roach Baneling all in him. DRG did it a lot, Lucky did it to him a bunch etc. his style is really greedy and he likes to take a quick 3rd. It's a best of 5 so I think he can get cheesed out a couple of times but won't lose a standard game to Zenio. If you try to play a Macro game against him, even if you are Leenock or DRG you lose every time since you will fall apart against his style in the late game. Then why did Leenock have such a good record against him? Don't underestimate Leenock & DRG like that :s. Even if MMA did not use ghosts the patch will still affect him The only time Leenock won against MMA was at MLG Providence, 2-1. Before that, MMA beat him 1-0 in November 2011 Code S, 2-0 at Blizzard Cup, and then beat him in the GSTL also. Yeah, good record my ass. MMA never uses Ghosts...even in macro 30-minute games against DRG and Lucky MMA didn't make any Ghosts. He just dropped the shit out of them. On March 09 2012 11:10 double620 wrote:
Seems everyone believes that MMA will be in the final. Don't you think Puma is a hard opponent for MMA?
PPl know that Puma' tvp is strong and his tvz is a bit weak. But seems noone comments too much on his tvt. Base on my memory, I believe he is super gosu with his tvt.
Puma has a really methodical, patient TvT style where he mainly goes mech. Even if he goes bio, his marine-tank/MMM isn't particularly stellar, Polt is on a whole different level. He has had problems dealing with hyper-aggressive Terrans that drop a lot and can be everywhere at once such as MarineKing in the Iron Squid tourney. But if I remembered it right, he did all kill prime team including match against MKP and Polt. Also, before he beated Mc in NASL, Puma was known for his tvt.
He had a 3 kill against Prime back at the end of June 2011. That doesn't mean he is among the top TvT players now.
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Why isn't Day 4 on the TL calendar????
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On March 09 2012 14:28 Chriscras wrote:
Why isn't Day 4 on the TL calendar????
Yep I'm confused too!
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